gh wrote:count me as one who didn't find London "wonderfully different"; rather it was a brilliant chance to honor some all-time great(s) that was squandered.
Which hasn't happened all that frequently actually at torch lighting ceremonies. Could we say Cathy Freeman was an all-time great prior to Sydney 2000?
Steve Redgrave and many all-time greats were honoured in the opening ceremony. In fact they contributed to the torch lighting by personally picking the young athletes who would form part of the future. However considering the London Olympic was sold and won on the theme of legacy and building for the future it seem right that the future of the sport was highlighted and we didn't keep looking to the past.
As it happens most all-time greats get honoured quite often in their retirements in this day and age. I can't say it's a missed opportunity because there have been plenty.
None of the people you listed with the possible exception of Ben Johnson go out of their way to belittle the accomplishments of their successors. I'm not even a Messi fan, but the degree to which Pele is threatened by him is sad.
cruz would make our Oregon friends happy, but soccer futbool is the only sport that matters in brasil, and pele can be considererd to be the usain bolt of thet sport for them, although if neyhamr wins wc next year, then neymar has a chance
JumboElliott wrote:Vanderlei de Lima is not a terrible choice.
He's a FABULOUS choice!!!
Let's start the campaign now.
You're both kidding, right?
Ideally I'd have de Lima bring the torch into the stadium and whilst half way round the track Joaquim Cruz would jump out of the crowd and push Vanderlei off the track, grab the torch and carry on to light the flame!!!
Joaquim Cruz should be one of the favourites to light the Olympic flame in 2016. According to his wikipedia article he "was a torchbearer and lit the flame cauldron at the 2007 Pan American Games in Rio de Janeiro". Will this go against him?
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Another alternative would be their Basketball legend Oscar Schmidt (only man to score 1000+ pts at Olympics - he played in 5)... never won a medal but is a legend (and with cancer battle in full swing apparently)
Schmidt was incredibly dominant in scoring - here is the Olympic basketball top 10 scoring games for men (thru 2008 only - haven't updated recently for 2012)
Most Points, Game, Men, Individual 55 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1988, v. Spain) 48 Edward Palubinskas (AUS-1976, v. Mexico) 46 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1988, v. Puerto Rico) 46 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1988, v. USSR) 45 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1996, v. Puerto Rico) 44 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1988, v. China) 44 Ricardo Duarte (PER-1964, v. Korea) 44 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1992, v. Spain) 41 Arturo Guerrero (MEX-1976, v. Japan) 41 Oscar Schmidt (BRA-1988, v. Canada)