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Football players/decathletes

Postby dbirds » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:15 am

I am looking for football players that competed in the decathlon at some point. Obviously, I know the big names (Thorpe, Campbell, Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, etc) I am looking for the athletes that did it in college and HS that are not as well known. Examples:

College
Steve Weatherford
Jay Fiedler
Bill Schroeder
Joe Prokop
Jay Novacek
Donald Driver

HS
Frank Beasley
Mark Bradley
Barry Krauss

Any help will be appreciated
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby dj » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:47 am

Rohn Stark 7511w '81 (NFL punter)
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Dixon » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:50 am

According to the back of his football card...

John Henry Johnson the old Niner/Steeler fullback was a high school decathlete.

He'd been in HS....ah....early 50's?
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby dj » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:11 pm

Dixon wrote:According to the back of his football card...

John Henry Johnson the old Niner/Steeler fullback was a high school decathlete.

He'd been in HS....ah....early 50's?



Senior in '48 at Pittsdburg (Ca) HS. Won the Calif state DT throw that year. Sr year bests of 19.9 (180LH), 57-4 1/2 (12lb), 148-6 (collDT). But no mention of his competing in a dec that year.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby jhc68 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:32 pm

Sam Cunningham ran one decathlon during his first year at USC.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Daniel Foster » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:25 pm

Bob Mathias. The only athlete ever to participate in both the Rose Bowl and the OG in the same year. His great run against SC, sidestepping the last Trojan - Frank Gifford - led to a Stanford upset.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Dixon » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:26 pm

dj wrote:
Dixon wrote:According to the back of his football card...

John Henry Johnson the old Niner/Steeler fullback was a high school decathlete.

He'd been in HS....ah....early 50's?



Senior in '48 at Pittsdburg (Ca) HS. Won the Calif state DT throw that year. Sr year bests of 19.9 (180LH), 57-4 1/2 (12lb), 148-6 (collDT). But no mention of his competing in a dec that year.


Being that the guy could run and throw it's not too far fetched he might have competed in a decathlon. Not sure why a card company would even mention something like that if it weren't true.

A future Hall of Fame athlete vs high school kids. Probably wouldn't have taken much back then to win a HS decathlon.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby gh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:37 pm

Dixon wrote:.... Not sure why a card company would even mention something like that if it weren't true....


errr, because accuracy in reporting track perfomances is far from a strong suit for those in other sports?
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Dixon » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:32 pm

gh wrote:
Dixon wrote:.... Not sure why a card company would even mention something like that if it weren't true....


errr, because accuracy in reporting track perfomances is far from a strong suit for those in other sports?


Topps is the Bible of the card companies. When dealing with other track/footballers they have always gotten the info correct. Hard to imagine ..that...company just tossing out bogus info. There is some very good reason ..that...company would mention the decathlon and John Henry Johnson.

Another mention, scroll down aways.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 7217,96261
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby no one » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:32 pm

Keith Robinson: 7638 in 1983

(11.12, 6.74/22-1 1/2, 12.48/40-11 1/2, 2.00/6-6 3/4, 48.65 [3970],
15.04, 44.22/145-1, 4.30/14-1 1/4, 54.40/178-6, 4:24.38 [3668])

frosh @ BYU

HS football I think never played in college or pros
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Pego » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:21 am

dbirds wrote:I am looking for football players that competed in the decathlon at some point. Obviously, I know the big names (Thorpe, Campbell, Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, etc) I am looking for the athletes that did it in college and HS that are not as well known. Examples:

College
Steve Weatherford
Jay Fiedler
Bill Schroeder
Joe Prokop
Jay Novacek
Donald Driver

HS
Frank Beasley
Mark Bradley
Barry Krauss

Any help will be appreciated


Are you sure about Driver? Packers media mentioned only the HJ, embellished of course.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby dbirds » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:07 pm

Pretty certain on Driver but I don't have a score yet
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby cask1 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:53 am

Nolan Cromwell
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Jackaloupe » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:06 am

Pego: Here's one "noone" will get: Aubrey Lewis of Montclair NJ HS (1954) was a Sprinter/Discus type, in that he played Fullback in HS (surely All State), winning a scholarship to Notre Dame--only to sustain a career-ending sternum fracture (back when "spearing" was common and pads were what they were). I don't think Aubrey ever played against Milt, also an AllState Fullback (who played some for Indiana U.), as Montclair was Group IV while the somewhat smaller Plainfield was Group III.

He placed 3rd in the 1953 AAU Decathlon in Plainfield, NJ, Milt Campbell's hometown, behind Milt and George Widenfelt, running ~11.0 in 100 and 50.0 in 400, while LJ'ing well and tossing Discus close to 150'. Not sure if he made it to Atlantic City in 1954, Rafer Johnson's debut (3rd to Bob Richards, thanks to a 15 ft. vault, compared to Rafer's sub-12 ft.). That was the one where Jim Brown intentionally crashed all the hurdles over the course of some 18 seconds.

I ran 11.5 100m and vaulted 11 ft., placing 5th in both; the rest was sub-par, esp. jumps and hurdles as I'd badly bruised my heel loping (Jr. JackaLoupe) to adjust to the 42" hurdles. I think I placed 22nd or so, but was likely the youngest ever in National Decathlon, at age 15.
I'd watched Milt at Plainfield, wishing I'd known to enter there, as I wouldn't have come in last, since all AAU required back then was an Entry Fee and a hokey Travel Permit. I entered each year thru 1960, first time Qualifying Marks were set (6000 Pts.)

Meanwhile back at Notre Ranch (Stanford was The Farm), Aubrey Lewis excelled in school, going on to become the first "Negro/Black" FBI Agent. He always was a star, and a true gentleman to boot.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby KDFINE » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:27 pm

Thanks Jackaloupe. I only knew of Lewis as an intermediate hurdler and footballer.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby bambam » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:16 pm

Jackaloupe wrote:He placed 3rd in the 1953 AAU Decathlon in Plainfield, NJ, Milt Campbell's hometown, behind Milt and George Widenfelt, running ~11.0 in 100 and 50.0 in 400, while LJ'ing well and tossing Discus close to 150'.


Actually he placed 6th - Campbell, followed by Bob Richards, James Cooke, Joel Shankle, with Widenfelt 5th and Lewis 6th.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby bambam » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:16 pm

bambam wrote:
Jackaloupe wrote:He placed 3rd in the 1953 AAU Decathlon in Plainfield, NJ, Milt Campbell's hometown, behind Milt and George Widenfelt, running ~11.0 in 100 and 50.0 in 400, while LJ'ing well and tossing Discus close to 150'.


Actually he placed 6th - Campbell, followed by Bob Richards, James Cooke, Joel Shankle, with Widenfelt 5th and Lewis 6th.


However, Lewis was 2nd in 1954 behind the good Rev. Richards
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby highjumpfan » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Jay Fiedler QB Miami Dolphins held the NY state High School Pentathlon record (NY didn't do the Decathlon) and I'm pretty sure he completed a few decathlons at Dartmouth.
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby hanklaw » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:48 pm

Dorfmeier at the age of 41 in 1965 did something that was close to a decathlon:

http://www.fionalawson.com/ATHLETICS/PD ... ld_sjm.pdf

He played FB for Fresno State.
oh, and ran track too.

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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby decaboy » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:37 pm

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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby EastBayprepoftheweek67 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:52 pm

dj wrote:
Dixon wrote:According to the back of his football card...

John Henry Johnson the old Niner/Steeler fullback was a high school decathlete.

He'd been in HS....ah....early 50's?



Senior in '48 at Pittsburg (Ca) HS. Won the Calif state DT throw that year. Sr year bests of 19.9 (180LH), 57-4 1/2 (12lb), 148-6 (collDT). But no mention of his competing in a dec that year.


A list of winners at the North Coast section track meets (the last qualifier step for entry into the California State meet,) held in the 1947-49 seasons, shows John Henry Johnson winning four NCS titles in three different events.

1947 NCS T&F (5-18)
Disc - John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 130-0 1/4

1948 NCS T&F (5-15)
HJ - (tie) Chester Lax (San Mateo) & John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 5-11

1949 NCS T&F (5-14)
SP - John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 55-6 3/4
Disc - John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 148-3
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby bambam » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:54 am

EastBayprepoftheweek67 wrote:1949 NCS T&F (5-14)
SP - John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 55-6 3/4
Disc - John Henry Johnson (Pittsburg) 148-3


That shot put was really good for 1949 - especially for high school
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:19 am

Jim Bausch played briefly in the NFL a year after winning the Olympic gold in the decathlon in 1932.

Glenn Morris played briefly in the NFL 4 years after winning the Olympic gold in the decathlon in 1936.

Wilford White was a national-level decathlete who played 2 seasons for the Bears.

Don Shy was 6th in the '64 Olympic Trials in the decathlon and went on to play 7 seasons in the NFL with 4 teams.

Rohn Stark was 8th in the NCAA decathlon in 1981 and then played 16 seasons in the NFL as a punter.


We've been over some of this ground before:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46801&p=761478
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Re: Football players/decathletes

Postby Dutra5 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:58 pm

Darren Hambrick who was a LBer in the NFL also competed in the Decathlon in HS. He finished 2nd in the FL state champs to James Beckford in, I think, 1993.
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