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Hurdles It Is

Postby DoubleRBar » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:58 am

Happy 73rd birthday today (Saturday) to an Olympic champion who set a world record just a few weeks before the Olympic Games.

Our birthday athlete was twice ranked number one in the world by a magazine called "Track and Field News".

This person later became a travel agent and attended a current Pac-12 school.

Name our champion for today.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby KDFINE » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:51 am

An Olympic Champion world record setting hurdler born in 1940 who went to USC? Could be Rex Cawley.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby DoubleRBar » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:08 am

Very good, KDFINE, and happy birthday today to Rex Cawley, winner of the 1964 Tokyo Olympic 400 meter hurdles.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby Jackaloupe » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:50 pm

Warren "Rex" Cawley and I share the same name (mine's in the middle), using it only for legal docs. He was a year behind me at USC, and ran plenty of fast 440s and some sterling legs on the Mile Relay, as they didn't have 440 Hurdles in Dual Meets.
He looked great at the 50th Reunion a coupla years agos,
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby Pego » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:36 am

Jackaloupe, years ago we established a select club of regulars of this board born prior to 1940. So far, the only members have been lonewolf and me. Welcome to the club 8-) .
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby lonewolf » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:01 pm

I was picking up from jackaloupe's posts that he was probably eligible for the geriatric club.
Welcome, jack.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby user4 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:15 pm

KDFINE wrote:An Olympic Champion world record setting hurdler born in 1940 who went to USC? Could be Rex Cawley.


Question: Could the 1964 OG and WR relay team have been even better with Rex sharing 1/4 of the load ?
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby KDFINE » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Well the team was Williams, Larrabee, Cassell and Carr. The only substitution worth considering would have been for Cassell, whose PR was 45.6 to Cawley's 46.0y (converts to 45.7). Based on their PR's a substitution would have been marginal. Carr already substituted for the trials 4th placer Theron "T-Bird" Lewis. So, another substitution probably wouldn't have even been considered. It wasn't like 1960 when Glenn Davis, second fastest in history prior to the games, was substituted for Ted Woods. Back then there wasn't any changing of personnel from round to round unless injured (and the Soviets in 1980 allegedly made a mockery of that), and Woods and Lewis lost out on what turned out to be their only shot at medals. Of course Cawley ran much better than Cassell did, but it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference. I haven't any idea as to their best relay splits prior to the games, but even with splits I think you'd have ti compare like legs to like legs.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby DoubleRBar » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:05 pm

Cassell (46.0), Larrabee (44.8), Williams (45.4), and Carr (44.5) = 3:00.7 (World Record). In 1964, that team would be hard to beat.
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby user4 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:55 am

DoubleRBar wrote:Cassell (46.0), Larrabee (44.8), Williams (45.4), and Carr (44.5) = 3:00.7 (World Record). In 1964, that team would be hard to beat.


had these 4 guys run on a synthetic surface in 1964 Ill guess that they would have gone very near 3:58.0
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby kuha » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:07 am

user4 wrote:
DoubleRBar wrote:Cassell (46.0), Larrabee (44.8), Williams (45.4), and Carr (44.5) = 3:00.7 (World Record). In 1964, that team would be hard to beat.


had these 4 guys run on a synthetic surface in 1964 Ill guess that they would have gone very near 3:58.0


And Jim Ryun would have too!
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby user4 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:02 pm

kuha wrote:
user4 wrote:
DoubleRBar wrote:Cassell (46.0), Larrabee (44.8), Williams (45.4), and Carr (44.5) = 3:00.7 (World Record). In 1964, that team would be hard to beat.


had these 4 guys run on a synthetic surface in 1964 Ill guess that they would have gone very near 3:58.0


And Jim Ryun would have too!


Wow.. age and typos happen... let me say that they get under 2:58
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Re: Hurdles It Is

Postby Jackaloupe » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:20 pm

Now that Cawley and Larrabee are mentioned in the same brea(d)th, I'll go ahead and post my impression of their contrasting training styles: Mike would customarily line up with the USC regulars (He was an LA Strider by then) at the start of our 150 yd. straightaway repeats, he'd just keep going into the turn, usually completing a full 330 (something we ran separately, starting on the turn, finishing in the middle of the straight, at a much slower pace than his, 36s vs. ~34).

Rex, at least in my recall, was not there very often--at least in that group of Sprinters & High/Low Hurdlers. Some even wondered how much he trained. Any way you cut it, he was a natural, while Mike was self-made by continuous hard work.He even overcame a busted Spleen, inflicted by some Los Angeles high school student where he taught.

As a fun footnote, we'd always be on the lookout for the Discus ring, at the opposite corner--where Jess Mortensen would perch atop the roller (cinder track) eyeing Rink Babka and Jim Wade (San Diego/El Cajon HS), who was notorious for out-of-sector long tosses. If Rink didn't put it down the center, he could easily skip it onto the track! In fact, at Apple Valley his first 200-footer landed in a trackside trench, obliging (obliging) Officials to estimate the likely horizontal impact spot.
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