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World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:31 pm

The World Youth Trials begin tuesday.

Two questions come to mind:
Does anyone know if Mary Cain has to run in the 1500 prelims and finals to be able to go?
Since no other American except Mary Cain has met the qualifying standards for the 3000m, although both Rebekah Topham and Anika Gompers could conceivably meet the standards during the trials, could Mary simply jog around the track, finish in last place and automatically gain a berth if only one of the two meet the standards during the race.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:02 pm

Interesting sidebar

Rebekah Topham ran in the US Jr championship in the 1500. Since she already has met the standard in that event, and if Cain is not running, she stands a chance to be one of the two going to Donetsk. This would make it unlikely she would try the 3000 instead. Mary Cain could walk it and qualify if she so chose.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby LadyT » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:04 am

The US world youth trials are off to a good start. Courtney Corrins wins the girls long jump in 21', followed by Kenturah Orji 20'7.25", both wind legal. Olivia Baker wins the girls 400m in 52.71, followed by Raevyn Rogers 53.34.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby LadyT » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Raevyn Rogers pretty impressive. After finishing 2nd in the 400m with a 53.34, she comes back to win the 800m in 2:05
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby aaronk » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:51 pm

Don't know if this should be in a separate thread, but did anyone see the webcast when the boys HJ was going on....towards the end of today's session?

A kid jumped, but missed, and rolled off the right side of the pit....onto what looked like cement!
He hit his head....pretty hard, it seemed.
A med person ran over, as did several others, while he laid there, rubbing his head.
After some consultation....and some more recovery......he made his final attempt (at 7 feet or so), but missed.

I'm not a HJ expert, but is there a cement flooring next to the pit in meets.....or is it usually grass or the asphault (??) of track composition?
Seems pretty dangerous to have cement right next to the pit!

I'm happy the boy is okay....but it could have been a lot worse!!
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby sprintdoc » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:00 pm

Marlon Humphrey had a nice day.

At 8:45 am he wins 110H in 13.67 in a -3.1
http://www.usatf.org/events/2013/WorldY ... s/F602.asp

then a few hours later goes 50.75 to win the 400H. At the prep national meet he won in 50.25 when he only ran the 400 hurdles as he was coming off a month of inactivity due to a back injury.

http://www.usatf.org/events/2013/WorldY ... s/F612.asp

But on msn.com today I also see this regarding an unofficial visit to Ole Miss and the KKK:

http://www.foxsportssouth.com/fox-sport ... eedID=3703
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby James Fields » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:39 am

Comparison below of first seven female finishers in 2000m steeple at "New Balance Nationals" and USATF Youth Championships (USA trials for World Youth Champs):

New Bal ---- USATF
6:43.96 - 1 - 7:07.18
6:47.62 - 2 - 7:16.97
6:50.59 - 3 - 7:21.48
6:50.60 - 4 - 7:57.29
6:55.16 - 5 - 8:11.47
6:56.27 - 6 - 8:37.49
6:58.73 - 7 - 8:41.03

Notes:
The World Youth Champs entry standard is 7:14.00 for this event.
USA 2013 team entrants list on web includes no female steeplers.
"New Balance" is USA National High School meet.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby LadyT » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:53 am

James Fields wrote:Comparison below of first seven female finishers in 2000m steeple at "New Balance Nationals" and USATF Youth Championships (USA trials for World Youth Champs):

New Bal ---- USATF
6:43.96 - 1 - 7:07.18
6:47.62 - 2 - 7:16.97
6:50.59 - 3 - 7:21.48
6:50.60 - 4 - 7:57.29
6:55.16 - 5 - 8:11.47
6:56.27 - 6 - 8:37.49
6:58.73 - 7 - 8:41.03

Notes:
The World Youth Champs entry standard is 7:14.00 for this event.
USA 2013 team entrants list on web includes no female steeplers.


The meet was open to those born in '96-'97, so if the ladies at New Balance wanted to compete for a spot, they were welcomed to.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Grasshopper » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:21 pm

sprintdoc wrote:Marlon Humphrey had a nice day.

At 8:45 am he wins 110H in 13.67 in a -3.1
http://www.usatf.org/events/2013/WorldY ... s/F602.asp

then a few hours later goes 50.75 to win the 400H. At the prep national meet he won in 50.25 when he only ran the 400 hurdles as he was coming off a month of inactivity due to a back injury.

http://www.usatf.org/events/2013/WorldY ... s/F612.asp

But on msn.com today I also see this regarding an unofficial visit to Ole Miss and the KKK:

http://www.foxsportssouth.com/fox-sport ... eedID=3703

Are the heights of the hurdles at the Youth championships the same (36" and 39") as they're running in US high schools?
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby sprintdoc » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:42 pm

For both boys and girls the hurdle heights are the same as US HS although they are running the 400 hurdles.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby eroszag » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:12 pm

NO, they are not!
36 for the 400 and 39 for 110 are for the junior (18-19 yo) level..youth use 33 for 400 and 36 for the 110.
Female stick to 30 for both at youth level.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby sprintdoc » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:25 pm

Yes they are! Check what the USATF World Youth meet page says are being contested. Events in BOLD! This is what I was referring to.

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/ ... fying.aspx
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby eroszag » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:44 am

Sorry BUT USATF has the rights to compete as they like...but IAAF and any other country in the world use the following :
110 hs youth 91 cm
400hs youth : 84 cm
Please refer to IAAF world youth champs Timetable, and search all the 4 events.
http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-w ... able/byday
Also, in the link you show me, for 110 boys are 39 , the most common used in hs, and below 36, the required youth height.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby tandfman » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:15 am

eroszag wrote:Sorry BUT USATF has the rights to compete as they like...but IAAF and any other country in the world use the following :
110 hs youth 91 cm
400hs youth : 84 cm

No, actually, the heights are 91.4 cm (36") and 83.8 cm (33").
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby eroszag » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:42 am

Sure, but anyone in the world outside U.S. refers to the metric measures for the sake of semplicity: sure the correct ones are 33 and 36, but not 36 and 39 for 400 and 110.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby dupontred » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:08 am

Too young for the World Youths, 8th grader (14 years old) Daesha Rogers ran at 52.11 at an AAU qualifier last weekend. http://www.runnerspace.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=777645

Not sure where else to put this, but that is amazing.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:48 am

There is a thread on high school underclass overachievers. That seems the natural spot; clearly in some cases [North Dakota where Roestler won multiple titles even before she got to high school] 8th graders can compete in state high school championships. Besides, she is now passing on to high school (unless you mean by 8th grade that she is just going in to 8th).
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby aaronk » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:22 pm

dupontred wrote:Too young for the World Youths, 8th grader (14 years old) Daesha Rogers ran at 52.11 at an AAU qualifier last weekend. http://www.runnerspace.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=777645

Not sure where else to put this, but that is amazing.
26mi235 wrote:There is a thread on high school underclass overachievers. That seems the natural spot; clearly in some cases [North Dakota where Roestler won multiple titles even before she got to high school] 8th graders can compete in state high school championships. Besides, she is now passing on to high school (unless you mean by 8th grade that she is just going in to 8th).


If she's going to compete in the WYC, then her performance belongs here......as well as in the other thread!
I checked my record books, and that 52.11 would break the 9th grade/frosh class record!
It's now Robin Reynold's 52.15 from 2009!
(Hannah Carson's 173-7 JT from when she was an 8th grader was considered the overall HSR then! She never improved while in HS, so her 8th grade mark stood as her PR all throughout her HS years. Of course, that "HSR" has been broken 2 or 3 or more times!!)
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Master Po » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:23 pm

aaronk wrote:
dupontred wrote:Too young for the World Youths, 8th grader (14 years old) Daesha Rogers ran at 52.11 at an AAU qualifier last weekend. http://www.runnerspace.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=777645

Not sure where else to put this, but that is amazing.
26mi235 wrote:There is a thread on high school underclass overachievers. That seems the natural spot; clearly in some cases [North Dakota where Roestler won multiple titles even before she got to high school] 8th graders can compete in state high school championships. Besides, she is now passing on to high school (unless you mean by 8th grade that she is just going in to 8th).


If she's going to compete in the WYC, then her performance belongs here......as well as in the other thread!
I checked my record books, and that 52.11 would break the 9th grade/frosh class record!
It's now Robin Reynold's 52.15 from 2009!
(Hannah Carson's 173-7 JT from when she was an 8th grader was considered the overall HSR then! She never improved while in HS, so her 8th grade mark stood as her PR all throughout her HS years. Of course, that "HSR" has been broken 2 or 3 or more times!!)


She's not going to compete at wyc, because she just turned 14 on 21 April. Athletes must be 16 or 17 at the end of this year to compete at wyc.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby tandfman » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Master Po wrote:She's not going to compete at wyc, because she just turned 14 on 21 April. Athletes must be 16 or 17 at the end of this year to compete at wyc.

Well, yes, but even if she were old enough, she would have had to compete in the USATF Youth Trials, and she didn't. (Of course, if she were old enough, she might have.)
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby LadyT » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:30 am

tandfman wrote:
Master Po wrote:She's not going to compete at wyc, because she just turned 14 on 21 April. Athletes must be 16 or 17 at the end of this year to compete at wyc.

Well, yes, but even if she were old enough, she would have had to compete in the USATF Youth Trials, and she didn't. (Of course, if she were old enough, she might have.)


She will be old enough for the next world youth trials, then the following year can contend for a spot on the world junior team.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby tandfman » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:06 am

Actually, she'll be eligible for the following two World Juniors--2016 and 2018.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:37 am

Anna Maxwell (4:28.92) and Alexa Ephraimson (4:23.27) both advance to the 1500 finals. Dawit Seyaum ETH leads heat times with a 4:14.40
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby norunner » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:24 am

The IAAF webpage for Donezk is a new low in webdesign. Where are the live-results? What is the point of the live commentary? I want to be able to see full live results, this is a world championship after all. Right now the quali for wHJ is going, when i click on it in Live View all that is happening is the icon turning blue, nothing else. What is supposed to happen? If the webpage for Moscow is going to look like this they have a BIG problem.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Sasuke » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:44 am

Well, live results were available at the beginning of the day (even if they were very uncomfortable to read because of the bothering grapichs) but they later became unavailable. This new website sucks, the live commentary is ridiculous and it's unacceptable not to have live results in a WC.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby zidan » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:02 am

Where can I get live feed?
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby norunner » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:15 am

So i tried to send an email to the IAAF regarding the technical problems via their "Contact IAAF" page, but that page also does not work. There is a mechanism to prevent automated emails that requires you to identify a certain athlete, but the name of the athlete is not specified. Great, just great.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby DCSIGMA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:10 am

Arriana Washington looked great in her 100 heat.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:15 pm

norunner wrote:So i tried to send an email to the IAAF regarding the technical problems via their "Contact IAAF" page, but that page also does not work. There is a mechanism to prevent automated emails that requires you to identify a certain athlete, but the name of the athlete is not specified. Great, just great.


Found that out also I guess their motto is:
"When soever two or three of you are gathered together...the site won't respond."
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Marlow » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:25 pm

Gotta like this from today's USATF report:

"Kenturah Orji (Budd Lake, N.J.) landed a hop, skip and jump of 13.43m/44-0.75"
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby kamikaze7 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:46 pm

The IAAF website is an atrocious mess. Thank God someone is updating wikipedia
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby gm » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:19 pm

kamikaze7 wrote:The IAAF website is an atrocious mess. Thank God someone is updating wikipedia


I have had zero issues getting results from the IAAF site.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:41 pm

gm wrote:
kamikaze7 wrote:The IAAF website is an atrocious mess. Thank God someone is updating wikipedia


I have had zero issues getting results from the IAAF site.


I had zero problems at 4am, nothing but problems at 9am, and zero problems today at 1am.
Seems to work fine when I'm working graveyard. Too bad about you normal people. Lol
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:04 pm

And the fastest youth in the world at 3000m is 16yr old ...Llilian Rengeruk of Kenya with a time of 8:58.74. All three medalists topped Mary Cain's record time. Hope she's enjoying Switzerland. Next to fall? Her 800m time perhaps.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:17 am

Ersula Farrow and Raevyn Rogers advance to the finals while Anita Hinriksdottir cruises to the top qualifying time of 2:04.79
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby nianchengyu » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:02 am

17-year-old Emel Dereli/17.67m PB 4kg easily wen to final with 19.18m/3kg effect in WSP,if she can develope consistently,her future will be so brillant by beating Adams,or Adams will dominant SP in two oly-cycles
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby icerunner » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:06 am

It is really too bad Mary Cain is not there and unfortunate for her. Was she too good to be there or what? I suspect she is going to regret her decision not to be there after Moscow. I sincerely hope she is going to do well in Moscow but there is a lot of pressure on her at this young age. Why not allowing her to be the fine young athlete she really is?
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:14 am

icerunner wrote:It is really too bad Mary Cain is not there and unfortunate for her. Was she too good to be there or what? I suspect she is going to regret her decision not to be there after Moscow. I sincerely hope she is going to do well in Moscow but there is a lot of pressure on her at this young age. Why not allowing her to be the fine young athlete she really is?


Agree 100%. There was absolutely no reason for her to duck the World Championship for youths. There is no guarantee she could have won the 3000/800 and may even have had her hands full in the 1500. She would have had to pick one, but the 3000 she wouldn't even have needed to have a race at the trials. She wsd the only one qualified. So the US ended up without a single representative. Embarrasing!
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby icerunner » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:20 am

An athlete in World Youth Championship can only enter one event in middle and long distance. Isn't that right so Cain would had to pick one event.
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Re: World Youth Championship

Postby Rothosen » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:42 am

Yes, only one middle distance event. The 3000 made the most sense because the US had no qualifying entrants. The 800 would have been the most compelling contest as Hinriksdottir is a force to be reckoned with. The 1500 would most likely have been the eadiest as the next best in the world would have trouble running under 4:08.
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