Am I just blind/inept (a distinct possibility), or is there no longer an option to view meet results as a whole? In the old days there was a link that opened a pdf with the composite results. Now all I can find is having to open each event as a different button.
1) I like their new interviews conducted by Ato Boldon with current athletes, but the videos are only available on their FB page. I would think in 2013, with social media being at such a high, it would make more sense to host the videos on their YT page.
2) Upload past World Championships content/moments more frequently.
squeaky wheel continues to get grease... no idea when these changes were implemented, since I've grown to live without the IAAF lists, but this was passed along to me.
<<We reviewed the page and have eliminated three clicks from the previous format for the ‘Top Lists’:
- Default no longer ‘all-time’ >> top lists now open at current season - Separate tabs for men or women removed >> both genders are now displayed on the same screen - No need to select ‘Update’ which is removed >> now simply click on discipline to display relevant list>>
That's a big improvement over their completely non-intuitive previous incarnation.
I'm realising that many of these problems come from the fact that they put all the information into a database and the views we see are dependent on the filters that they choose. This explains the nonsense of having to click on each event to see the result, rather than having one page of results for each meet. But it will be easy for them to create a filter to gives us the one page view.
Maybe they should allow third parties to access their databases and write filter options that fit our needs? That is how the human genome databases work. There are many different genome browsers that allow you to see the same information but with a different user interface.
Daisy wrote:Maybe they should allow third parties to access their databases and write filter options that fit our needs? That is how the human genome databases work. There are many different genome browsers that allow you to see the same information but with a different user interface.
Yes, but the genome project is much simpler and all of the people are from the same organization so it is much easier to get those things done....
I "visited" their site today, courtesy of a link through a front page item here on T&FN. I really dislike the washed out look of their site, it makes me feel like I can't get away from it fast enough. I just read the article and left.
gh wrote:squeaky wheel continues to get grease... All in all, deffo an improvement.
A lot of the gripes raised in this thread have been addressed. (Click on the numbers of each point below to see the original post that flagged these up):
1. Dates of SBs now shown on profiles (example) 2. Top lists page now easier to navigate and even fewer clicks than before are required, and all other reported glitches were fixed a long time ago (example) 3. Improved presentation of combined events scores (including individual marks) in results and rankings lists (example) 4. In results, the default view now shows full series as well as qualifiers, wind speeds and reaction times (example / example) 5. When searching for results, the filter now stays open from the outset (example) 6. All 'Focus on Athletes' biographies have been incorporated into profile pages (example)
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7. Team members now viewable in relay results, and split times viewable in distance races (example / example) 8. Final scores (and intermediate scores) of combined events are now presented much better on results pages (example)
bushop wrote:Any idea why so many old articles (2012) are gone?
All old articles (from the early days of the site in the late 90s) should all be there. Most automatically redirect, but some don't. Where there any in particular you were trying to find?
Anybody who learned to keystroke in the days before computers afforded the luxury of proportional spacing was taught to double space after periods (and colons). And as one who had to unlearn that after 25 years of pounding at a keyboard for 8 hours a day, I can tell you, it's not an easy reflex to unlearn.
And for people who aren't in the journalism business, it's a minor typographical touch that's not even worth trying to unlearn.
One thing I miss in the redesigned "Top Lists" section is the ability to sort by column heading. I found it useful to be able to sort by "Nation" to easily see all athletes from a given country grouped together in order of performance.
so bewildering that there's an article on main iaaf page about the ponce gp but it took me about 3 mins to be able to find results. rather confusingly the top related link to the ponce gp article is 'simon ziolkowski'.
iaaf website makes me want to cry, and then scream with rage.
Consistently across race sites it is surprisingly difficult to find the link to the results. It is as though they can only think of the preparation for the event, that the fans are going to spend a lot of time going to the site before the event but are not interested in results. There are a number of exceptions, but they are almost exceptions rather than the dominant rule.
How come they've removed the lane information from the past results? It was there on the "old" [better] site and it's as important as wind and CERTAINLY more important than a *&%$#@ BIB number (are you kidding me?!).
And, thanks for finally adding the reaction times; they're only ONE click away. But, they should be NO clicks away. If anything hide bib numbers and POS (position), they're superfluous.
26mi235 wrote:Lanes matter in the 200 and 400, not much elsewhere (well, 400h is implicit).
So because they're not relevant elsewhere should reaction times be removed, or wind?
Quick tell me, what was Bekele's BIB number for any one of his wins? How about Seb Coe? Joan Benoit? Billy Mills? Bob Beamon? Carl Lewis? Michael Johnson? These are some of the biggest wins in history and nearly noone knows their BIB number (without looking it up). Now, which lane did John Akii Bua win from? How about Bob Hayes? Michael Bates bronze? (FWIW, I remember that Bolt was 2163 in Beijing, couldn't tell you for Berlin without looking it up but 2163 sticks out). Lanes matter for ALL sprints and they matter all the time. Lanes are as much context as wind or reaction times and it tells a story of what may have happened through the rounds or how the rules have changed (straight random to 2 seeded draws to 3 seeded draws).
If it were up to me I'd include dewpoint, time of day and temperature, but for lane(s) not to be included, and people who CLAIM to be track fans be involved with the development of the IAAF site (and write for one of the T&F publications) and not include it is nearly unforgivable. They were in before for a good reason, they're not now in now (for a stupid reason)... they need to put the lanes back in.
So i went to the IAAF webpage (big mistake i know) to check on some results from Olympic Games. I wanted the mPV from 2008, so i clicked "competitions", then under "previous championships" on Beijing. Then i clicked on timetable/results at the top since there was only a timetable by day. Surprise, the page gave me the timetable by day for London 2012. So once again i clicked on Beijing 2008 under "select a championship". Now i had a timetable by day for Beijing. Next step, i clicked on timetable by discipline and, yes you guessed it, i got a timetable by discipline for London 2012. Selecting Beijing 2008 for the THIRD time finally gave me what i wanted. "Just" another two clicks and i got what i wanted, sort of. I had the mPV result and series on the screen, but the series are all wrong. So i thought i would check other OG results to see if the series are screwed up as well. I selected Athens 2004 and again series for mPV. And got the Beijing results again. Tried to check other OGs for the same error, but apparently they did not have a mens pole vaulting competition anywhere else because the pages for all other Games remained empty, even for London 2012. And of course since the "Contact IAAF" webpage doesn't work either, there is no way to tell them. This page reminds me of the new Berlin airport, but at least there is a small chance the airport will eventually be fixed.