¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL


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¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby gh » Fri May 10, 2013 5:31 am

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POLK Tori
USA

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DOBIJA Teresa
POL

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JARDER Erica
SWE
6.48

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JIMOH Funmi
USA

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GIPSON Whitney

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HAYES Chelsea
USA

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PROCTOR Shara
GBR

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OKAGBARE Blessing
NGR

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DELOACH SOUKUP Janay
USA

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SOKOLOVA Yelena
RUS

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REESE Brittney
USA
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby aaronk » Fri May 10, 2013 7:01 am

Okagbare hits big 7.14 (2.2).
Reese way back.
Actually, both Reese and Gipson have NM's after 2 rounds!
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby aaronk » Fri May 10, 2013 7:14 am

Reese moves into 2nd with her 1st measured jump of the day, a 7.04.
Okagbare got a 7.03 in her 3rd round, so she has two 7+ jumps.
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby EPelle » Fri May 10, 2013 7:18 am

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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby aaronk » Fri May 10, 2013 7:29 am

Reese PR's!!
7.25 with a legal wind of 1.6.
That moves her into 13th on the outdoor A-T World list.

And DeLoach moves into 3rd with a 7.08 (2.2).
Okagbare now 2nd with her 7.14 from earlier.
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby marknhj » Fri May 10, 2013 7:39 am

aaronk wrote:Reese PR's!!
7.25 with a legal wind of 1.6.
That moves her into 13th on the outdoor A-T World list.


Fantastic! That is one of the very best jumps in history.
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby EPelle » Fri May 10, 2013 7:42 am

marknhj wrote:Fantastic! That is one of the very best jumps in history.

Yep. =67 AT performance; only the third time this decade anyone's jumped this far.
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby Marlow » Fri May 10, 2013 7:49 am

aaronk wrote:Reese PR's!!
7.25 with a legal wind of 1.6.
That moves her into 13th on the outdoor A-T World list.

Wow! Not that I didn't think she had it in her!
Sweeeeeet.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Brittney Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 10, 2013 7:54 am

7.25/23' 9.25"
7.14/23' 5"
7.08/23 2.75"

DeLoach-Soukup in third and Jemoh 6.92 (a mark that often will win!), although a lot of wind-aided marks.

Variable winds make it hard to hit the board right.

There were 17 jumps greater than 6.80/22' 7.5"
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Brittney Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 10, 2013 11:57 am

26mi235 wrote:7.25/23' 9.25"
7.14/23' 5"
7.08/23 2.75"

DeLoach-Soukup in third and Jemoh 6.92 (a mark that often will win!), although a lot of wind-aided marks.

Variable winds make it hard to hit the board right.

There were 17 jumps greater than 6.80/22' 7.5"

I think my 24 footer is imminent :D
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby dukehjsteve » Fri May 10, 2013 12:44 pm

It looks like Ms. Reese has ( finally ) learned HOW to LJ. She was pretty rough around the edges for too long. 24 is coming soon for her.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby BCBaroo » Fri May 10, 2013 6:10 pm

Front page has Reese #3 US, behind Marion Jones. If Randy Barnes WR isn't on TFN's shot list, why is Marion's big leap. Didn't she admit drug use all along?
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 10, 2013 6:13 pm

BCBaroo wrote:Front page has Reese #3 US, behind Marion Jones. If Randy Barnes WR isn't on TFN's shot list, why is Marion's big leap. Didn't she admit drug use all along?

Because only Marion's runs and jumps run from 2000 and beyond have been expunged
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Brittney Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby olorin » Fri May 10, 2013 6:54 pm

26mi235 wrote:7.25/23' 9.25"
7.14/23' 5"
7.08/23 2.75"

DeLoach-Soukup in third and Jemoh 6.92 (a mark that often will win!), although a lot of wind-aided marks.

Variable winds make it hard to hit the board right.

There were 17 jumps greater than 6.80/22' 7.5"

Even without illegal marks it is still very impressive competition:
1. Reese 7.25
2. DeLoach 6.99
3. Jimoh 6.92
4. Okagbare 6.92
5. Sokolova 6.91
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Re: Doha DL: wLJ

Postby donley2 » Fri May 10, 2013 7:25 pm

EPelle wrote:
marknhj wrote:Fantastic! That is one of the very best jumps in history.

Yep. =67 AT performance; only the third time this decade anyone's jumped this far.


The women are chasing an nearly impossible to compete with all-time list in most of there events. And two of those marks are from a single meet in Russia.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby ATK » Sat May 11, 2013 1:04 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:It looks like Ms. Reese has ( finally ) learned HOW to LJ. She was pretty rough around the edges for too long. 24 is coming soon for her.

This is sort of misleading saying she finally learned how to jump. I mean she did jump 7.23 last year. Did she not know how last year?

Also is there video of her jump?
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby mump boy » Sat May 11, 2013 1:10 pm

She's always jumped far but she's completely inconsistent

I can't find the full results but i heard the same was true yesterday !!
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby ATK » Sat May 11, 2013 1:15 pm

mump boy wrote:She's always jumped far but she's completely inconsistent

I can't find the full results but i heard the same was true yesterday !!

Your 100% right with that. If I was her coach I would be on the edge about how inconsistent she is.

She only got 2 jumps in Doha - 7.04 and 7.25. Everything else was a foul...
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Per Andersen » Sat May 11, 2013 1:59 pm

ATK wrote:

Your 100% right with that. If I was her coach I would be on the edge about how inconsistent she is.

She only got 2 jumps in Doha - 7.04 and 7.25. Everything else was a foul...

I stopped worrying about that after she won with 7.12 in London. She is one of the all time greats.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby lonewolf » Sat May 11, 2013 2:08 pm

For years, people criticized Reese's landing, even though she was winning. I have worked a lot of her competitions and what few may have noted, she frequently only took one jump, or two if she fouled the first, then went back to the HJ or hurdles. She was not concentrating on the LJ. She has improved her landing and it is starting to show.
Just an observation and opinion.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Sat May 11, 2013 2:15 pm

Your observation, from a better vantage point and with more experience than just about anybody I can think of, means more than several knowledgeable people together.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby gh » Sat May 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Per Andersen wrote:
ATK wrote:

Your 100% right with that. If I was her coach I would be on the edge about how inconsistent she is.

She only got 2 jumps in Doha - 7.04 and 7.25. Everything else was a foul...

I stopped worrying about that after she won with 7.12 in London. She is one of the all time greats.


forget London! (well, it's just another piece of the puzzle). Reese may be one of the more "ungainly" jumpers you've ever seen, but at this point she's sitting on a 5-gold streak, which has seen her win the Worlds in and out twice in a row each plus the Olympics.

Methinks she's doing somehing a little bit right.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby lonewolf » Sat May 11, 2013 2:36 pm

The positive aspect of Reese vertical landing is she doesn't sit down or fall back, which, as it turns out, nets her winning jumps over picture jumpers who cannot sustain forward rotation.

As to consistency on the board, every jumper fouls.. you just notice it more when the gooduns do it.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Marlow » Sat May 11, 2013 2:57 pm

gh wrote:Reese may be one of the more "ungainly" jumpers you've ever seen, but at this point she's sitting on a 5-gold streak, which has seen her win the Worlds in and out twice in a row each plus the Olympics.
Methinks she's doing something a little bit right.


Just because she's an outlier in ability, does not mean she's technically proficient. She used to jump far with terrible technique, and now she's jumping farther with vastly improved technique.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 11, 2013 6:19 pm

mump boy wrote:She's always jumped far but she's completely inconsistent

I can't find the full results but i heard the same was true yesterday !!

The last time she lost an international competition was Beijing.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby ATK » Sat May 11, 2013 6:41 pm

JumboElliott wrote:
mump boy wrote:She's always jumped far but she's completely inconsistent

I can't find the full results but i heard the same was true yesterday !!

The last time she lost an international competition was Beijing.

You mean a major.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby uakari » Sat May 11, 2013 7:06 pm

it's scary to think how much she could jump (7.5m +) if she'd learn proper technique?
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby gktrack » Sat May 11, 2013 7:16 pm

Wonder what impact her recent move to the Oly Training Center in San Diego has on her training/technique...
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Marlow » Sat May 11, 2013 7:22 pm

uakari wrote:it's scary to think how much she could jump (7.5m +) if she'd learn proper technique?

Facts not in evidence. Her technique now (that she has learned to extend her feet in front of her) is much closer to peak efficiency. Plus, as was pointed out to me in the USATF Level II coaching course, we don't know if fixing the landing could somehow have some detriment to her superb take-off mechanics. I'm not sure how that's relevant, but that's what they say. Something to do with torso angle at takeoff and compensating for forward angular momentum . . . :shock:
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby gktrack » Sat May 11, 2013 7:41 pm

lonewolf wrote:She has improved her landing and it is starting to show.
Just an observation and opinion.

She says: "I’ve always been doing the hang. It’s when you just curl your legs up [in the air]. But now when I do the hang, I try to make sure I bring my legs through, like a sweeping motion. When I first started long jump, I landed basically standing up. Now I’m actually swinging my hands past my body to help me gain those extra inches."
http://www.teamusa.org/News/2013/February/16/Never-Too-Soon-To-Think-About-Rio-Reese-Jumping-At-Millrose-Games.aspx
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Luchem » Mon May 13, 2013 7:13 am

ATK wrote:Also is there video of her jump?


Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3yb8ryjtpc
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby mump boy » Mon May 13, 2013 7:58 am

It may be an improvenment but it's still atrocious !!

Imagine if she actually had a leg shoot :shock:
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Gabriella » Mon May 13, 2013 8:12 am

mump boy wrote:It may be an improvenment but it's still atrocious !!

Imagine if she actually had a leg shoot :shock:


She's just like Marion Jones; high trajectory but stiff and a poor leg shoot. But, as with Jones, I would stick with the technique she knows. When Jones tried to improve technically her distances went backwards. I suspect because it didn't feel natural to her, but then again she was primarily a sprinter. At least Reese can focus totally on her event. Reese also looks lighter than Jones.

The LJ could be a great competition in Moscow. Sokolova's performance here in Doha was also good considering the Europeans and Russians in particular don't tend to start so early and so strong. Perhaps we'll see all 3 medalists over 7m? Hell, we may even find 7.00 isn't enough to medal! Now that would be super.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Mon May 13, 2013 9:29 am

Gabriella wrote: Perhaps we'll see all 3 medalists over 7m? Hell, we may even find 7.00 isn't enough to medal! Now that would be super.


I think that you may be right; there are a number of candidates for 7-meter jumps.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby marknhj » Mon May 13, 2013 10:53 am

Her leg shoot is not that bad on this jump, angles are deceiving. Reese is already one of the greats in my opinion (based on my ignoring the performance list above her, which is almost entirely bogus).
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby mump boy » Mon May 13, 2013 12:03 pm

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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby marknhj » Mon May 13, 2013 12:23 pm



I suggest you take a look at a screen shot of her landing on this jump. Of course she's not the best technician, and she lands standing up on occasion, but I suspect she'll get more return by improving her run-up and take-off phase. But she's an absolute natural (aka stating the bleedin' obvious), and sometimes absolute naturals just do what they're going to do.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby mump boy » Mon May 13, 2013 12:29 pm

Of course but it's frustrating when someone with so much talent makes do with bad technique

We could have a WR holder on our hands with a JJK/Heike/Fiona type proficiency.

Nobody corrected it earlier because she was winning and it's probably too late now to expect any major improvements because she's still winning :(

I actually want her to be consistently beaten so she will be forced to do something about it
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Marlow » Mon May 13, 2013 12:58 pm

As I said in an earlier post, her 'lack of leg extension' is somewhat due to a vastly superior penultimate step and a high, powerful take-off. The checking of forward momentum has to be paid for somewhere and BR does it so well at takeoff, it's very hard to get her torso forward enough to bring the legs up fully. The hip angle is set at takeoff and hers is optimized for a high fast trajectory. All things being equal, I'd much rather have her great take-off and 'mediocre' landing than a superb landing with less power and angle at take-off. It's really hard to have your cake and eat it too, though Heike Dreschler managed it. Mike Powell was a hot mess at times, but boy could he take off! Carl Lewis was a line drive compared to him (though a pretty fast one! :wink: )
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Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

Postby Per Andersen » Mon May 13, 2013 2:28 pm

I think she's fine now. Her hang technique has improved, she better balanced in mid-air. Her landing technique has improved substantially.
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