¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL


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¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby gh » Fri May 10, 2013 5:32 am

1 AL HEBSHI Sultan Abdulmajeed
2 SINGH Om Prakash
3 FORTES Marco
4 SIDOROV Maksim
5 MARTIN Cory
6 LAURO Germán Luján
7 WHITING Ryan
8 HOFFA Reese
9 MAJEWSKI Tomasz
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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby Powell » Fri May 10, 2013 5:52 am

Majewski reportedly not at his best at this point after two elbow surgeries in the off season. His goal is just to get over 20 in this competition.
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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby Marlow » Fri May 10, 2013 6:55 am

gh wrote:1 AL HEBSHI Sultan Abdulmajeed
2 SINGH Om Prakash
3 FORTES Marco
4 SIDOROV Maksim
5 MARTIN Cory
6 LAURO Germán Luján
7 WHITING Ryan
8 HOFFA Reese
9 MAJEWSKI Tomasz

This event is sooooo glacially slow to change its hierarchy, I'm anxious to see what the (relatively) younger set can do. I'm liking this on the current US list:

21.80i 71-6¼ Ryan Whiting
21.09 69-2½ **Ryan Crouser (Tx)
20.98i 68-10 Cory Martin
20.89i 68-6½ Kurt Roberts
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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby aaronk » Fri May 10, 2013 6:57 am

Whiting in 1st with 21.62.
Hoffa 2nd in 21.01.
Majewski in 5th at 19.78.
Just starting the 3rd round.
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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby Marlow » Fri May 10, 2013 6:59 am

aaronk wrote:Whiting in 1st with 21.62

70'11 = great start.
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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby EPelle » Fri May 10, 2013 7:10 am

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Re: Doha DL: mSP

Postby aaronk » Fri May 10, 2013 7:21 am

Whiting puts 22.28, about 73-1!!
A PR...and places him 12th on the outdoor A-T World List....
and 8th on the A-T outdoor American list!!
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby batonless relay » Fri May 10, 2013 7:34 am

That's the farthest throw since 2008.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby gh » Fri May 10, 2013 7:40 am

all-time U.S. top 10 now posted to front page
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby LopenUupunut » Fri May 10, 2013 7:48 am

21.26 AR for Lauro in 2nd. Majewski failed to break 20.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby Marlow » Fri May 10, 2013 7:52 am

Same comment as Reese's jump - wow! Didn't see it coming, but doesn't really surprise me.
Sweeeet!
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 10, 2013 8:04 am

Beats a good field by a meter; four of his five fair throws win the event even though there is an Area Record for the second-place putter! Another player on the world stage that did not get my attention until now.

LAURO Germán Luján ARG 21.26 AR
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby Jon » Fri May 10, 2013 8:05 am

batonless relay wrote:That's the farthest throw since 2008.
Not quite. Cantwell threw 22.31m last year (and 22.41m and 22.35m in 2010).
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby gktrack » Fri May 10, 2013 8:31 am

Obviously a great series (21.14, 21.62, F, 21.37, 22.28, 21.99), but gotta like Whiting's consistent performance as of late.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby GHM » Fri May 10, 2013 9:11 am

Did Rand Barnes threw 23.12 m in 1990?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZwXF1Xcpw

"The all-time U.S. top 10:

1. 22.86 75-0 Brian Oldfield (ITA) 5/10/75

2. 22.66i 74-4¼ Randy Barnes (Mazda) 1/20/89

3. 22.54 73-11½ Christian Cantwell (Nike) 6/05/04"
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby rainy.here » Fri May 10, 2013 10:01 am

GHM: Track and Field News does not include Barnes' 23.12 because he tested positive in the same year. Regardless of people's opinions about when Barnes began taking steroids (since he got caught for them), it is overwhelmingly likely he was also taking them earlier in 1990 when he hit his 23.12m WR. TFN is not bound by IAAF rules, so their lists do not include any performance of an athlete who tested positive in the same year.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby ptn » Fri May 10, 2013 10:37 am

Barnes not tested when made WR?
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby nicest person ever » Fri May 10, 2013 11:32 am

What an awesome result for Ryan!

So, what do you guys think? Do you think he will be the next person to break the shot put WR? (maybe not for a few more years, but, eventually?)
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 10, 2013 11:51 am

There are too much in the way of questions about that era and such. I prefer to focus on the current athletes, including the much-watched younger set.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby ExCoastRanger » Fri May 10, 2013 12:28 pm

What a whopper of a throw! Agree with Marlowe -- didn't see it coming but not surprised.

And this is gonna piss off some of the Euros, but thanks gh for posting the imperial result along with the metric (as T&FN always does). It's not for a lack of trying, but I still can't do a quick conversion in my head for the field marks and I'm often likely to gloss over the result if I don't have the time/inclination to do the math.
I don't mean to open the whole imperial/metric can of worms here; it just seemed like a good opportunity to let T&FN know the effort is appreciated.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby rainy.here » Fri May 10, 2013 6:32 pm

nicest person ever wrote:What an awesome result for Ryan!

So, what do you guys think? Do you think he will be the next person to break the shot put WR? (maybe not for a few more years, but, eventually?)


I don't think Whiting will be the guy to break it. It's an enormous record. I wish I could say that Jacko has a chance, but I just don't feel he'll be able to convert his speed with the bigger ball.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby leoesharkey » Fri May 10, 2013 6:55 pm

almost three feet in imperial, 88cm, quite an ask. but will it go before Zelezney's jav, or Schulte's discus, the most resistant now is the Hammer, only one 80m in last year's Olympics, 78m getting into the medals, 86.74 just looks too far, but the young Egyptian lad might do it. Dare i ask about the ladies shot, or discus ho ho ho :shock:
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby nicest person ever » Fri May 10, 2013 7:33 pm

I think Zelezny's Javelin wr is by far the strongest out of all the mens throws wr's. Like yea, maybe the CURRENT crop of hammer guys are pretty weak compared to the hammer record, but, in a vacuum or however you want to phrase it, the javelin record has gotta be by far the strongest of the 4 throws records by a pretty wide margin in the grand, longterm scheme of things. It's just so far beyond anyone else EVER, not just current guys, that it seems like it'll take the most statistical outlier-ish of a person to reach it.
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby ptn » Fri May 10, 2013 8:34 pm

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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby EPelle » Fri May 10, 2013 11:07 pm

ExCoastRanger wrote:It's not for a lack of trying, but I still can't do a quick conversion in my head for the field marks and I'm often likely to gloss over the result if I don't have the time/inclination to do the math.

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calcula ... nversions/
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Re: ¶Doha DL: mSP—Whiting 73-1¼ (22.28) WL

Postby 26mi235 » Sat May 11, 2013 5:04 am

EPelle wrote:
ExCoastRanger wrote:It's not for a lack of trying, but I still can't do a quick conversion in my head for the field marks and I'm often likely to gloss over the result if I don't have the time/inclination to do the math.

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calcula ... nversions/


I have an Excel spreadsheet that I use for the vertical jumps and the throws that has the conversions by cm or whatever increment you want to use (e.g., 2 cm, 3cm, 4.2938455 cm...). If you give me a PM I can e-mail it to you.
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