Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Gay 9.86 WL]


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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 7:22 am

Mens 100m startlist

Jacques Harvey
Jason Young
Kemar Bailey-Cole
Tyson Gay
Nesta Carter
Darvis Patton
Daniel Bailey
Dexter Lee


I am predicting a 9.90 win for Tyson with Patton a close second and Kemar Bailey Cole third.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby ZELLGADISS » Fri May 03, 2013 8:13 am

jamboy my prediction was same that yours :wink:
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby chuku69 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:09 am

This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby aaronk » Fri May 03, 2013 9:28 am

Apparently Queen Harrison is replacing Ginnie Crawford, who dropped out of the meet (injury).
With her recent 12.71, a great choice!!
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:49 am

jamal00005 wrote:She looks great as does kerron who said she hasn't done any speed work yet .Kerron will be running the 100m at the Invitational


??? What does this mean. I know that when a 5000m runner has not been doing any speed work they have not been working on their finishing kick and probably have not been doing repeat fast 400s. But the 100 (or 100/200) runners are certainly not doing a lot of miles, everything they are doing is speed work aside from lifting. So, for months she has been swimming or what?
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:56 am

chuku69 wrote:This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!

Interesting matchup for sure, but I think a Patton upset is more likely given Patton's current form, but we'll see. I'll put my money on TG.... We could see a crazy time this weekend!
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 03, 2013 10:01 am

I think expectations for Gay are a bit too high. I think he might normally be doing the 400 here but is a fill-in for Bolt in the 100 slot instead. Patton, on the other hand, has been racing a lot; this is at least his fourth major outing. [Kemar I have not been tracking but will have my radar slowly picking him up more and more.]
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 03, 2013 10:12 am

26mi235 wrote:I think expectations for Gay are a bit too high. I think he might normally be doing the 400 here but is a fill-in for Bolt in the 100 slot instead. Patton, on the other hand, has been racing a lot; this is at least his fourth major outing. [Kemar I have not been tracking but will have my radar slowly picking him up more and more.]

Personally, Tyson Gay has often exceeded my expectations, so my money's on him. But I'm really excited to see what Patton at 35yrs of age can do with some solid competition in TG and Kemar.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 10:39 am

chuku69 wrote:This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!



Many track experts have often rubbished the idea of a “fast track” including Ato Boldon. Its fast people folks.

Jeter ran 10.81 last year at the meet. Bolt ran 9.82 last year as well. Blake ran 9.80 at the meet in 2011. All these are “fast” people.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby gh » Fri May 03, 2013 11:01 am

jamboy wrote:
chuku69 wrote:This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!



Many track experts have often rubbished the idea of a “fast track” including Ato Boldon. Its fast people folks.....


While it may not be the track proper, there's no end of empirical evidence that certain sites are faster than others in the 100. With high temperature/humidity usually being very good boosters.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby chuku69 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:33 am

Huh? Am i living on another planet because i remember clearly during a interview with Ato Boldon in Beijing (08 olympics) when he was on the track and said it was very very fast. He also said that about London (12 olympics)too, so Ato Boldon cannot be one of the experts you are talking about.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby JRM » Fri May 03, 2013 11:42 am

jamboy wrote:
chuku69 wrote:This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!



Many track experts have often rubbished the idea of a “fast track” including Ato Boldon. Its fast people folks.


Utter nonsense. The rigidity of the track surface makes it "fast" or "slow". The "fast" people don't run as fast on a slow track.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 11:57 am

JRM wrote:
jamboy wrote:
chuku69 wrote:This track is very fast. With the competition the winner will be in the 9.8's for sure. I hope Kemar Bailey upset Gay. This will be the talk of the meet. Lets Go!!!



Many track experts have often rubbished the idea of a “fast track” including Ato Boldon. Its fast people folks.


Utter nonsense. The rigidity of the track surface makes it "fast" or "slow". The "fast" people don't run as fast on a slow track.



Can you name a "slow" track?
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Most of the tracks that run just secondary races are 'slow' by comparison to the tracks like London, Atlanta, etc. This came up a bit a couple of years ago when Gatlin was just coming back and he had only 'ok' times on such tracks. When he got on the premier venues his times dropped another 0.10 or so.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby JumboElliott » Fri May 03, 2013 12:51 pm

Franklin Field and Occidental College are "slow" tracks for sprinters.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby Bolan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:46 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
jamboy wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:
aaronk wrote:This isn't about the Jamaica Invitational, but I'm curious.

What is the current status of Merlene Ottey in Jamaica....meaning her legacy, and how she is viewed by Jamaicans now?

Are there buildings, high schools (or tracks), or streets named after her?
Is she looked up to by women and girls in Jamaica the same way that Usain Bolt is??

Again, just curious,
Ottey is one of my all time favorite athletes.......and still competing at age 53!!
(Well, she'll BE 53 on May 10th!!)

I hope they regard her in the same way they regard all other drug cheats.


Don't get things twisted. Ottey was cleared.




She wasn't cleared, she got off on a technicality of procedure. It doesn't help a coach was busted last year with emails being sent to Ottey's coach on how to beat drug tests. She's Marion Jones like in always having something going on there.



I notice with a great deal of contempt and disgust the hypocrisy of GH the moderator. He is always quick to ban people or give a stern warning whenever remarks are made about questionable American athletes and drugs but I guess he has a double standard if its Jamaican athlete whose reputation and legacy is been attacked. SMH
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

That poster certainly needs to be banned for talking that garbage on this forum.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 03, 2013 4:29 pm

Talking about the facts of a case are not so much grounds for being banned. Casting unverified suspicion is frowned on. Saying the someone did not get a ban because of a technicality is a matter involving a fact. Maybe the 'fact' is inaccurate (my vague recollection is that it is accurate, but I am not sure and I am not making a claim to it), which is a fact to be addressed (maybe the person that thinks that is not correct is wrong). gh's ire can be raised by a succession of idiocy etc., but I think that you will find him rather consistent in what is unacceptable. [I am having some difficulty in understanding exactly what the prior two posters think is the problem.]
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 4:36 pm

26mi235 wrote:Talking about the facts of a case are not so much grounds for being banned. Casting unverified suspicion is frowned on. Saying the someone did not get a ban because of a technicality is a matter involving a fact. Maybe the 'fact' is inaccurate (my vague recollection is that it is accurate, but I am not sure and I am not making a claim to it), which is a fact to be addressed (maybe the person that thinks that is not correct is wrong). gh's ire can be raised by a succession of idiocy etc., but I think that you will find him rather consistent in what is unacceptable. [I am having some difficulty in understanding exactly what the prior two posters think is the problem.]


His quote below is the part that is troubling and it has no place on this message board since it is false and slanderous.


It doesn't help a coach was busted last year with emails being sent to Ottey's coach on how to beat drug tests.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 4:51 pm

Wallace Spearmon in an interview at the Penn Relays with Television Jamaica said that Jamaica is his second home and he loves competing there. He gets lots of love from his Jamaican fans.

He said he is looking forward to a good race.

Dawn Harper, Debbie Ferguson and Solonda Solomon, arrived in Kingston today.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 4:52 pm

The weather forecast is calling for thunderstorms in Kingston on Saturday. Hopefully, it will clear up by the time the meet starts.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby gh » Fri May 03, 2013 5:39 pm

jamboy wrote:
26mi235 wrote:Talking about the facts of a case are not so much grounds for being banned. Casting unverified suspicion is frowned on. Saying the someone did not get a ban because of a technicality is a matter involving a fact. Maybe the 'fact' is inaccurate (my vague recollection is that it is accurate, but I am not sure and I am not making a claim to it), which is a fact to be addressed (maybe the person that thinks that is not correct is wrong). gh's ire can be raised by a succession of idiocy etc., but I think that you will find him rather consistent in what is unacceptable. [I am having some difficulty in understanding exactly what the prior two posters think is the problem.]


His quote below is the part that is troubling and it has no place on this message board since it is false and slanderous.


It doesn't help a coach was busted last year with emails being sent to Ottey's coach on how to beat drug tests.


please read this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... coach.html
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 5:48 pm

Well,she wasn't banned for anything and if the IAAF/WADA felt this new information somehow affected Ottey, there would have been an investigation by them on this information.

Lets get back to the Jamaica Invitational discussion.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Still waiting for the official start list. Still not seeing anything on the official website.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 6:37 pm

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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby 26mi235 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:07 pm

jamboy wrote:Well,she wasn't banned for anything
Lets get back to the Jamaica Invitational discussion.


She was banned, but the ban was overturned on a technicality, so step a little lightly on this topic in the future rather than indicate that anyone that cites the material is guilty of throwing unverified aspersions on the athlete should be banned from the board.

Just go read this; avoiding a positive reading from both the A and B samples only because
"the retesting was not completed in the allotted time"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottey [wikipedia is not perfect, but this is not the type of thing that there is typically a problem with.

Lets get back to the Jamaica Invitational discussion.


But now, it is time to return to our regularly scheduled focus on Jamaican sprinting or, in this case, sprinting in Jamaica. I am sure that we all agree with that.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby t_monk » Fri May 03, 2013 7:32 pm

The full startlist for all events are out now....

Can be found here:

http://www.jainvite.com/2013-meet/schedule/
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 8:19 pm

Great lineup.

Should be an exciting meet. Can't wait.

I hope you cheapos sign up and pay the US$5.99 since there will be no free live streaming
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 8:32 pm

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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby shivfan » Sat May 04, 2013 12:38 am

Women's 400m hurdles...Nickeisha Wilson and Ristananna Tracey.

Men's 400m hurdles....Jehue Gordon, Leford Green, Kerron Clement, Josef Robertson.

Women's triple jump....Ayanna Alexander, Trecia Smith, Kimberley Williams.

Men's shot putt....Christian Cantwell, Ryan Whiting, Raymond Brown.

Women's 100m....Allyson Felix, Kelly-Ann Baptiste, VCB, Muriel Ahoure.

Men's 100m....Tyson Gay and Nesta Carter.

Men's long jump....Will Claye.

Women's 100m hurdles....Queenie Harrison, Dawn Harper, Vonette Dixon.

Men's 110 hurdles....Andy Turner, Hansie Parchment, Andrew Riley, Dwight Thomas.

Women's 400m....SHana Cox, Christine Ohuruogu, Novlene Williams, Kaliese Spencer.

Women's 200m....SAFP, Kerron Stewart, Sherone Simpson.

Men's 200m....Warren Weir, Nickel Ashmeade, Wallace Spearmon.

There's a lot that I'm interested in!
8-)
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 2:56 am

Finally Ryan Bailey will not running 100m.
I hope good weather for this race and good time around 9.90 :D
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 5:12 am

Womens 100m hurdles rematch between Queen Harrison and Dawn Harper.

Should be a great race.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 5:15 am

Marion Jones is currently in Jamaica. She is one of the presenters at the "Business of Sport" seminar being held at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel which is the same hotel where all the athletes are staying.

I am sure she will find some time to hop on over to the national stadium later to watch the meet.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 5:34 am

Live streaming link. $5.99. Get out those credit cards.


http://televisionjamaica.com/LiveEvents.aspx
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 5:39 am

Fireworks expected at Jamaica Invitational


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/Fireworks-in-store
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 6:07 am

Add one hour to get the US equivalent DST


Order of events - Jamaica Time

5:40: 400 METRES DEVELOPMENT - WOMEN

5:45: 400 METRES DEVELOPMENT - MEN

5:55: 200 METRES DEVELOPMENT - WOMEN

6:00: 200 METRES DEVELOPMENT - MEN

6:05: DISCUS WOMEN

6:10: 100 METRES MASTERS - MEN

6:15: 100 METRES DEVELOPMENT - WOMEN

6:20: 100 METRES DEVELOPMENT MEN

6:30-6:45 OPENING CEREMONY

6:50: TRIPLE JUMP WOMEN

6:53: 4x100M RELAY HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS

6:56: 4x100M RELAY HIGH SCHOOL BOYS

7:00: SHOT PUT MEN

7:10: 400 METRES HURDLES WOMEN

7:20: 400 METRES HURDLES MEN

7:25: AWARDS CEREMONY

7:40: 100 METRES MEN ÒAÓ RACE

7:45: AWARDS CEREMONY

7:50: 100 METRES WOMEN

7:55: 100 METRES MEN ÒBÓ RACE

8:00: DISCUS MEN

8:05: LONG JUMP MEN

8:07: AWARDS CEREMONY

8:15: 1500 METRES MEN

8:23: 1500 METRES WOMEN

8:30: AWARDS CEREMONY

8:40: 100 METRES HURDLES WOMEN

8:50: 110 METRES HURDLES MEN

8:55: AWARDS CEREMONY

9:00: 400 METERES MEN 'A' RACE

9:05: 400 METRES WOMEN

9:10: 400 METRES MEN

9:15: AWARDS CEREMONY

9:20: 200 METRES WOMEN

9:25: 200 METRES MEN

9:30: AWARDS CEREMONY

9:35: 4 x 400 METRES HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS

9:40: 4 x 400 METRES HIGH SCHOOL BOYS
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 am

Womens 100m lineup.

VC will have the fast starting Ahoure to her outside.


Lane Bib Name Country
1 843 Trisha Ann Hawthorne JAM
2 835 Schillonie Calvert JAM
3 948 Allyson Felix USA
4 936 Kelly Ann Baptiste TRI
5 836 Veronica Campbell-Brown JAM
6 828 Murielle Ahouré CIV
7 854 Carrie Russel JAM
8 834 Sherri Ann Brooks JAM
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Postby ATK » Sat May 04, 2013 9:18 am

I'm interested to see Kerron Clement's shape opening up in the 400 hurdles this year.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby pesmerga » Sat May 04, 2013 9:23 am

I hope someone can make some vids of the meet. Really interesting to see how good some athletes are right now.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Bolt out]

Postby jamboy » Sat May 04, 2013 9:25 am

pesmerga wrote:I hope someone can make some vids of the meet. Really interesting to see how good some athletes are right now.


You don't plan to subscribe and watch? Its only $5.99
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