Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivia


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Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivia

Postby no one » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:01 pm

I know - double redundancy ....

Who was K Dumpleton? ... and what is his claim to fame.
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby Jackaloupe » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:33 pm

Hi Noone, Betcha no one but NoOne knows this one!
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby no one » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:50 pm

was somewhat reluctant to post as it is rather obscure but touches on a prominent part of out history. (recent) .. there a clue.
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby bambam » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:23 am

Kirk Dumpleton defeated Ovett and Coe in an English schoolboys cross-country race, one of the few people to have defeated them both in the same race (I think it only happened 2 other times - both much later when they were big names). No, I did not look it up - for some reason, I remember reading about that years ago, and the name was interesting enough that I held on to it in memory.
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby bambam » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:54 am

This I did look up to be certain, although I had it correct. One of the 2 other times they were both beaten in the same race was by Olaf Beyer at the 1978 Europeans in the 800. The 3rd time was 1984 Olympic 800 when Joaquim Cruz beat them both. Not sure if there were any others.
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby no one » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:46 am

wow - I thought no one would get this one - according to TFN Nov 1982 in English School boys XC champs Dumpleton won and Ovett got second while Coe placed 10th. According to the article it was the first 'clash' between the two eventual superstars. The race took place in 1972. Hats of Bam Bam - I would have had no clue were it not for perusing an old TFN. Apparently Kirk was a pretty decent runner. Don't know how long his career lasted however.
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby no one » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:25 pm

I looked forward and previous to this one and I don't think any copy write stuff here - its a collection of pics from the " St Albans School Archive ". Apparently from the aforementioned race ... anyway ... a pic of the man Mr Dumpleton:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stalbanssc ... /lightbox/

and apparently this race is not so obscure as I thought - google has it mentioned in serveral locations, including RW and "The Guardian". I do know he ran a bit after - won the sr race in '74
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby no one » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:53 pm

did a bit more searching on Dumpleton. Seems he was something of a dominant force - at least regionally. I found where he won Wlwyn half marathon in 1990 on 10 Jun 1990

1:09:00 Kirk Dumpleton (ENG)

Guess that puts him at about 34y for that race. I also saw a post made by "Kirk Dumpleton" on LR.com referring to the win over Ovett and Coe. Okay - thats all
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Re: Obscure useless but partially semi interesting (?) trivi

Postby Master Po » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:45 am

interesting trivia -- thanks!

Here's a footnote to it, from The Independent, 26 August 2008, "The Day I Beat an Olympian." Dumpleton's story is the third segment -- the others are interesting, too.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olym ... 08507.html

At the time of this article, he was 52yo, a history teacher. He reports in the interview some of his PBs: 4:01 mile & 2:25 marathon, among others. A good runner.
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