Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Gay 9.86 WL]


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Jamaica Invitational , May 4th [Gay 9.86 WL]

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:48 am

Some fantastic matchups expected at the meet. Will be an excellent meet as usual. Additional names to be added to the list in the next week.

http://www.iaaf.org/news/news/bolt-to-h ... -in-kingst


200m women

Shelly-ann frazer-Pryce
Kerron Stewart
Bianca Knight

200m Men
Weir
Ashmeade
Spearmon
Jaysuma Saidy Ndure

100m Women
VCB
Felix
Baptiste
Murielle Ahoure

100m Men
Tyson Gay
Ryan bailey
Kemar Bailey-Cole
Daniel Bailey
Doc Patton
Nesta Carter


100m hurdles
Dawn Harper
Ginny Powell

400m women
Christine Ohuruogu
Novlene Williams-Mills
Rosemarie Whyte

Mens 400m
Luguelin Santos
Jehue Gordon
Kerron Clement.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:03 am

Darvis Patton has been on fire since the indoor season and thus, it will be interesting to see what he can run here.

Murielle Ahoure had a great indoor season over 60m. Lets see her stretch this out over 100m. I would not be surprised if she wins since she should still be sharp from the indoor season. Both Veronica and Felix skipped the indoor season.

Melanie's first 100m hurdles race since 2006( her college days). I believe it will take her some time to make the transistion.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:57 pm

What are expectations now for VCB given her fabulous 200 today (22.18/2.6)
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:06 pm

26mi235 wrote:What are expectations now for VCB given her fabulous 200 today (22.18/2.6)


She will be running the 100m. It will be her first 100m of the year. Not sure how sharp either her or Allyson will be over 100m. Wouldn't be surprised if Ahoure upstages them both since she is coming off a great indoor season.

It is not how ready an athlete is early May. It matters more at the end of June when they need to qualify at their national championships as well as in August at the WC in Moscow.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamal00005 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:58 am

26mi235 wrote:What are expectations now for VCB given her fabulous 200 today (22.18/2.6)

When did VCB run 22.18 ?......at which meet i should ask....fabulous for her imo .Think Ahoure will win this one because of her indoor season and the rest of the ladies skipped indoor to focus on their outdoor season as Jamboy said above
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:00 pm

Tom Jones Memorial Invitational - 4/20/2013
Percy Beard Track - U. of Florida
Results
1 CAMPBELL-BROWN, VERONICA JAMAICA 22.70 22.18 2.6 1
2 SCOTT, AURIEYALL JR UCF 22.80 22.73 2.6 1
3 ANDERSON, ALEXANDRIA NIKE 22.30 22.77 2.6 1
4 TOWNSEND, TIFFANY PURE ATHLETICS 22.28 22.83 2.6 1
5 ONUORA, ANYIKA GBTC 22.90 22.98 0.3 2

http://www.gatorzone.com/trackfield/boxscore.php?gameid=11249

Ahoure might beat her in the 100, but I will give different odds than 48 hours ago.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby ATK » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:13 pm

jamboy wrote:
26mi235 wrote:What are expectations now for VCB given her fabulous 200 today (22.18/2.6)


She will be running the 100m. It will be her first 100m of the year. Not sure how sharp either her or Allyson will be over 100m. Wouldn't be surprised if Ahoure upstages them both since she is coming off a great indoor season.

It is not how ready an athlete is early May. It matters more at the end of June when they need to qualify at their national championships as well as in August at the WC in Moscow.

I agree that Ahoure may take the race. But remember that unlike Any of the American or Jamaican ladies, Ahoure does not have to worry about (slightly) peaking for a National Championship. So she has an easier time building her entire season around Moscow.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Maybe, but Ahoure is ahead of the others having raced hard indoors. Thus, instead of taking a more measured build up, she might have pushed the temporal envelop, maybe to gain confidence that she belongs in the discussion. However, sprinters are usually not lacking in confidence.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:10 pm

I am having some second thoughts about Ahoure and about what she might do outdoors this year and folks saying that we better watch out for her. This is a followup to the discussion earlier this year when she ran 6.99 beating Fraser over 60m.

Last year, Ahoure ran 7.04(to VCB's 7.01) to finish second at the World Indooor Championships. In London, she ran a PR of 10.99 in the heats and 11.00 in the final for 7th place. In the 100m final, she was up with the leaders until about 40-50 meters and until she was passed by all but OKAGBARE.

Unless she really works on her finish, I just don't see her staying with the Fraser, Jeter, VCB in a competitive 100m. Nothing she has done last year( or this year) indicates she can hang on after 60m.

He first big outdoor test will be at the Jamaica Invitational. We will see how well she performs.







Womens 100m London Olympics.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby chuku69 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:45 am

Watch out for Kemar Bailey Cole in the 100m. I think Blake being injured was a good thing. This youngster seems to be in fabulous form already. Bolt breakthrough in 2008, Blake in 2011 @ this same meet, and i think Bailey-Cole will explode on the scene this yr. given the condition that i see him in.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:09 am

Watch out for Kemar Bailey-Cole?

Don't be surprised if he's the 3rd placed Bailey. Matter of fact, at this time of year I would be surprised if he could beat any of the other men listed. Doc Patton looks primed for a great season and Ryan Bailey is on the heels of an excellent one - one where he PBd twice at a major in the fastest race ever in a season where he was injured for a great portion of it. Add in Nesta Carter searching for his sub-9.80 form and Daniel Bailey doing the same and Bailey-Cole, though talented, may have to settle for a respectable 6th. He's got talent, but I think it's too early in the season.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby chuku69 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:39 am

I won't be surprise if he fires a 9.8. I watched patterns my friend. He is fully healthy this yr. and i can tell by the condition i've seen him from the start of the yr., this kid will be the rising star this yr. I was shocked when Blake ran the 9.80 in his breakout yr., but i won't be with Kemar. Blake went from 9.96 to 9.80 in one yr. Kemar is coached by Mills and i see them doing wonders with him this yr. Be prepared next Saturday!!!
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:06 am

This isn't about the Jamaica Invitational, but I'm curious.

What is the current status of Merlene Ottey in Jamaica....meaning her legacy, and how she is viewed by Jamaicans now?

Are there buildings, high schools (or tracks), or streets named after her?
Is she looked up to by women and girls in Jamaica the same way that Usain Bolt is??

Again, just curious,
Ottey is one of my all time favorite athletes.......and still competing at age 53!!
(Well, she'll BE 53 on May 10th!!)
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:13 am

chuku69 wrote:I won't be surprise if he fires a 9.8. I watched patterns my friend. He is fully healthy this yr. and i can tell by the condition i've seen him from the start of the yr., this kid will be the rising star this yr. I was shocked when Blake ran the 9.80 in his breakout yr., but i won't be with Kemar. Blake went from 9.96 to 9.80 in one yr. Kemar is coached by Mills and i see them doing wonders with him this yr. Be prepared next Saturday!!!

But, when he doesn't fire that 9.8 I'm sure you will have an excuse why...you noticing "patterns" and all. :roll: The fact that he is fully healthy means little; it could mean that he's not training hard enough as most sprinters are training at or past the red line and usually have a niggle or two and it could also mean that he finishes 5th behind equally healthy rivals who happen to be faster right now. Bailey-Cole being coached by Mills is irrelevant, too. Forsythe is coached by Mills and he didn't follow up his 2011 in 2012 and Blake is off to an injurious start. And, remember Daniel Bailey? Well, not since 2009.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:15 am

Daniel Bailey has been “off form” for several years now. He hasn’t done anything recently to suggest he will be back to his old self. He looked “average” in the 4 x 100m race at the Utech Classic as well as the 150m race in Rio a few weeks ago. Nesta Carter looked “okay” at the recent Utech Classic.

Kemar Bailey Cole ran extremely “easy” in the 200m and anchored the 4 x 100m at the recently held Utech Classic. I have huge expectations for him this year. With Blake and Asafa currently nursing injuries, this gives him a great opportunity to break out. He plans on running the 200m this year and thus, there is a strong possibility that Jamaica could go 1-2-3-4 at the WC in Moscow later this summer

Doc Patton has impressed us in the indoor season running 6.50 as well as a 9.75 early outdoor(with hurricane force winds behind him). His first major test outdoors this season will be at the the meet.

Ryan Bailey? Not sure what to expect. He hasn’t shown much yet. That race in Jamaica should be good for him as well.

Jamaica/US trials is over 2 months away and the WC in Moscow is over 3 ½ months away and thus, there is still plenty of time for these athletes to show form.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby ZELLGADISS » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:40 am

jamboy, Patton is big favourite in this meeting.
9.75 windy and 10.09 with -2.0 m/s :o

He is in big shape, 9.9 or sub 9.9 with good positive wind is very possible :wink:
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:46 pm

ZELLGADISS wrote:jamboy, Patton is big favourite in this meeting.
9.75 windy and 10.09 with -2.0 m/s :o

He is in big shape, 9.9 or sub 9.9 with good positive wind is very possible :wink:



His 9.75 was with hurricane force winds of +4.0 wind.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:52 pm

aaronk wrote:This isn't about the Jamaica Invitational, but I'm curious.

What is the current status of Merlene Ottey in Jamaica....meaning her legacy, and how she is viewed by Jamaicans now?

Are there buildings, high schools (or tracks), or streets named after her?
Is she looked up to by women and girls in Jamaica the same way that Usain Bolt is??

Again, just curious,
Ottey is one of my all time favorite athletes.......and still competing at age 53!!
(Well, she'll BE 53 on May 10th!!)

I hope they regard her in the same way they regard all other drug cheats.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:54 pm

JumboElliott wrote:
aaronk wrote:This isn't about the Jamaica Invitational, but I'm curious.

What is the current status of Merlene Ottey in Jamaica....meaning her legacy, and how she is viewed by Jamaicans now?

Are there buildings, high schools (or tracks), or streets named after her?
Is she looked up to by women and girls in Jamaica the same way that Usain Bolt is??

Again, just curious,
Ottey is one of my all time favorite athletes.......and still competing at age 53!!
(Well, she'll BE 53 on May 10th!!)

I hope they regard her in the same way they regard all other drug cheats.


Don't get things twisted. Ottey was cleared.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:06 pm

So were Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:12 pm

jamboy wrote:Don't get things twisted. Ottey was cleared.


Really? My vague memory was the it was not particularly 'clean' in is "exoneration". However, I am not the best to review what happened there. I also do not care as much as some of the others. She is a highly unusual athlete in terms of the duration of her accomplishments. To the extent that I viewed the 'nickname' as the Bronze Queen as a positive -- she kept on pushing and racing and eventually finished with a lot more than a lot of Bronze medals. That says something about the person that you do not always get.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby Jackaloupe » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:27 pm

His 9.75 was with hurricane force winds of +4.0 wind.

Uh, that's ~ 9 mph, not even a real wind in Texas, for example. [I know you didn't mean that literally, but let's face it, the Metric System has little meaning to most, even in Field Events, where it's not that complicated: Multiply by 3 and add 10%, than fudge it down a coupla feet for Throws (3.28 Conversion Factor).
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby Boxer4robb » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:34 am

aaronk wrote:This isn't about the Jamaica Invitational, but I'm curious.

What is the current status of Merlene Ottey in Jamaica....meaning her legacy, and how she is viewed by Jamaicans now?

Are there buildings, high schools (or tracks), or streets named after her?
Is she looked up to by women and girls in Jamaica the same way that Usain Bolt is??

Again, just curious,
Ottey is one of my all time favorite athletes.......and still competing at age 53!!
(Well, she'll BE 53 on May 10th!!)


She is a legend and will allways have great distiontion by all jamaicans. there is a statute just outside the national stadium from 2005 and there is a high school named after her.she even recently got her honorary doctorate of this year.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:21 am

26mi235 wrote:
jamboy wrote:Don't get things twisted. Ottey was cleared.


Really? My vague memory was the it was not particularly 'clean' in is "exoneration". However, I am not the best to review what happened there. I also do not care as much as some of the others. She is a highly unusual athlete in terms of the duration of her accomplishments. To the extent that I viewed the 'nickname' as the Bronze Queen as a positive -- she kept on pushing and racing and eventually finished with a lot more than a lot of Bronze medals. That says something about the person that you do not always get.


She was cleared just like OJ :D

She certainly did not clear herself :D
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:38 am

Let get back on track folks.

It should be a great meet. I expect there to be live streaming on the internet of the meet(Might not be free however ).
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby lionelp1 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:47 am

Jackaloupe wrote:His 9.75 was with hurricane force winds of +4.0 wind.

Uh, that's ~ 9 mph, not even a real wind in Texas, for example. [I know you didn't mean that literally, but let's face it, the Metric System has little meaning to most, even in Field Events, where it's not that complicated: Multiply by 3 and add 10%, than fudge it down a coupla feet for Throws (3.28 Conversion Factor).

You meant has little meaning in a backwards, conservative country still talking about 6 feet 7 inches and 224 feet 10 inches, for example, which the entire world, and especially the world of athletics, has rejected for the metric system. It is not too difficult but the USA wants to make a weird point that "we can still stick with the imperial system; it makes us feel different". :lol:
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby ExCoastRanger » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:29 am

lionelp1 wrote:You meant has little meaning in a backwards, conservative country...


Way to insult an entire nation.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:14 am

Mile > 1500m
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby ZELLGADISS » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:39 pm

jamboy wrote:
ZELLGADISS wrote:jamboy, Patton is big favourite in this meeting.
9.75 windy and 10.09 with -2.0 m/s :o

He is in big shape, 9.9 or sub 9.9 with good positive wind is very possible :wink:



His 9.75 was with hurricane force winds of +4.0 wind.



Yes so i told WINDY, 9.75 windy and 10.09 with big headwind -2.0
Patton can tobe sub 9.9 perfectly in april, it is very fast really.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby gh » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:49 pm

ExCoastRanger wrote:
lionelp1 wrote:You meant has little meaning in a backwards, conservative country...


Way to insult an entire nation.


yeah, that's a good way to lose one's posting privileges here in a big hurry.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:27 pm

ZELLGADISS wrote:jamboy, Patton is big favourite in this meeting.
9.75 windy and 10.09 with -2.0 m/s :o

He is in big shape, 9.9 or sub 9.9 with good positive wind is very possible :wink:


The Jamaicans in the race might have something to say about him being the favorite.

I am predicting a win by Kemar Bailey Cole
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamal00005 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:57 pm

Seems like sherone simpson is running as well but it does not say in what event .Would really like to see her get back to 2006 form . :D

http://www.trackandfieldja.com/nmcms.ph ... vent&id=91
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:09 pm

jamal00005 wrote:Seems like sherone simpson is running as well but it does not say in what event .Would really like to see her get back to 2006 form . :D

http://www.trackandfieldja.com/nmcms.ph ... vent&id=91


It has been 7 years since she has had that form. I don't expect it to come back. She has had numerous injuries/surgeries over the years. I don't expect to get that form back.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby ZELLGADISS » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:26 am

jamboy wrote:
ZELLGADISS wrote:jamboy, Patton is big favourite in this meeting.
9.75 windy and 10.09 with -2.0 m/s :o

He is in big shape, 9.9 or sub 9.9 with good positive wind is very possible :wink:


The Jamaicans in the race might have something to say about him being the favorite.

I am predicting a win by Kemar Bailey Cole


jamboy im great fan of Kemar Bailey, but im realistic, in this moment Patton is in best shape.
Only if Patton have some injury in my opinion could to win Kemar.
With good wind, i go to tell Patton 9.90 and Kemar 9.98 :wink:
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby fasttrack85 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:39 am

jamboy wrote:
jamal00005 wrote:Seems like sherone simpson is running as well but it does not say in what event .Would really like to see her get back to 2006 form . :D

http://www.trackandfieldja.com/nmcms.ph ... vent&id=91


It has been 7 years since she has had that form. I don't expect it to come back. She has had numerous injuries/surgeries over the years. I don't expect to get that form back.



Its really hard to say that. I think in 2012 she showed a glimmer of what may still be there. 11.01,22.37,51.42. You know the phrase " what a difference a year makes"? She may have a revival.

Prior to 2012 I would never have thought SRR would run a 22.09 into a headwind and i thought Allyson Felix 21.81 from 2007 in Osaka would probably not be topped by her again. You just never know.

Note: I have my eye on Kerron Stewart she ran a 51.83 and in 2008 she ran a 52.09 and that was prob her best year(2009 was great too).
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:50 am

fasttrack85 wrote:
jamboy wrote:
jamal00005 wrote:Seems like sherone simpson is running as well but it does not say in what event .Would really like to see her get back to 2006 form . :D

http://www.trackandfieldja.com/nmcms.ph ... vent&id=91


It has been 7 years since she has had that form. I don't expect it to come back. She has had numerous injuries/surgeries over the years. I don't expect to get that form back.



Its really hard to say that. I think in 2012 she showed a glimmer of what may still be there. 11.01,22.37,51.42. You know the phrase " what a difference a year makes"? She may have a revival.

Prior to 2012 I would never have thought SRR would run a 22.09 into a headwind and i thought Allyson Felix 21.81 from 2007 in Osaka would probably not be topped by her again. You just never know.

Note: I have my eye on Kerron Stewart she ran a 51.83 and in 2008 she ran a 52.09 and that was prob her best year(2009 was great too).



Kerron also ran an early season 11.2 recently. She is rounding into shape nicely.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamal00005 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:47 am

fasttrack85 wrote:
jamboy wrote:
jamal00005 wrote:Seems like sherone simpson is running as well but it does not say in what event .Would really like to see her get back to 2006 form . :D

http://www.trackandfieldja.com/nmcms.ph ... vent&id=91


It has been 7 years since she has had that form. I don't expect it to come back. She has had numerous injuries/surgeries over the years. I don't expect to get that form back.



Its really hard to say that. I think in 2012 she showed a glimmer of what may still be there. 11.01,22.37,51.42. You know the phrase " what a difference a year makes"? She may have a revival.

Prior to 2012 I would never have thought SRR would run a 22.09 into a headwind and i thought Allyson Felix 21.81 from 2007 in Osaka would probably not be topped by her again. You just never know.

Note: I have my eye on Kerron Stewart she ran a 51.83 and in 2008 she ran a 52.09 and that was prob her best year(2009 was great too).


Very good time by Kerron if true ......Id like to see her and sherone back at their best to give Vcb and Safp some competition for the spots at trials .
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Surprise athlete for JA Invitational Saturday

Postby chuku69 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:40 am

I am picking Kemar-Bailey Cole in the 100m. Some guy on here say i'm crazy but i see that he is in very good shape.
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Re: Jamaica Invitational , May 4th

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:51 am

http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/spo ... o-JII-100m


Tyson Gay has been added to the 100m at the Jamaica Invitational. Should be a great matchup.

He loves Jamaica and he has run there several times at both the 200m and the 400m.
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Re: Surprise athlete for JA Invitational Saturday

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:55 am

chuku69 wrote:I am picking Kemar-Bailey Cole in the 100m. Some guy on here say i'm crazy but i see that he is in very good shape.


Yea. You are crazy :D Tyson has just been added to the lineup. See separate thread.

Moderators can close this one.
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