The 119th Running of The Penn Relays


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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:41 pm

az2004 wrote:http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=362


kadecia baird verus jamaicans 4X4 hs g

I hope her hammy is okay. She was grabbing it after her 23.84 tuneup at the New York Relays. She ran down the New Rochelle anchor in the 4x1 earlier in the meet (47.81). It was cold out there at Icahn Stadium. We can't lose the best chance in a long time to see a HS girl go 49.x later this spring or early-summer, relay or individual (Demus once ran 50.4 on a relay).

If Medgar Evers is entered in the 4x1, they could potentially break 46.00 (the NYS record is 46.16). I'm pretty sure they're capable of breaking 47.00.

If she's anchoring the 4x4, she'll probably dip under 52.0 if she has to chase Jamaica and Columbia (NJ). For some reason, I think she sandbagged that 54.28 at the Carifta Games, to save everything for Penn.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:56 pm


D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:12 pm

The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.[/quote]
Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.[/quote]

I would be ill advised if she did appear....[/quote]

she's now out of Penn and the Doha DL meet. (see front page)[/quote]
Jeter tweeted said that is NOT true she will be at Penns and was never entered in Doha...so the story on the front page is incorrect
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:16 pm

Looks like it will be some nice weather I hope it warms up more..but weather for penns is sooo iffy and hit or miss..one year it may be cold and rainy the next year u sweating like a HO in church...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:04 pm

DCSIGMA wrote:Jeter tweeted said that is NOT true she will be at Penns and was never entered in Doha...so the story on the front page is incorrect


Here's a link to the twitter conversation that mentions Penn.. I hope she'll be running in Philly, but is there a possibility that she didn't know that her coach had scratched her from Penn yet?

https://twitter.com/CarmelitaJeter/stat ... 3636357120
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Mighty Favog » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:29 pm

JumboElliott wrote:

D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.

Preview: "The Wolverines ran the season’s fastest time indoors, 10:56.46, to win the NCAA, anchored by Amanda Eccleston, an unheralded senior from Adrian, Mich., whose 1,500 best is a modest 4:22."
It's very, very difficult to be up on everything, so I'm not criticizing Jack Pfeifer when I point out that Eccleston was the D-2 national athlete of the year in 2012 at Hillsdale, where she ran 4:19. It's even harder to be up on that because Mrs. Eccleston was then known as Ms. Putt.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:46 pm

JumboElliott wrote:

D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.


Don't know how fast Dartmouth's other 3 runners are on a DMR.

But if the 1200 girl runs 3:25, the 400 girl a 54, and the 800 woman a 2:05, Abbey would have to run a 4:24 to get the record.
She ran close to 4:30 indoors....so I'm guessing she COULD run a 4:25 or so in a relay....with the Collegiate Record on the line!!
I'd give them a much better chance at going sub-11:00 than getting a 10:48.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Lindsay Walsh, 2:14 and 4:28
Megan Krumpoch, 55.3
Caroline Buck, 2:10

She'll need to break 4:20 for her team to come close to the (world) record.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby dj » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Dartmouth is a scratch in the wDMR.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:53 am

the college womens dmr looks deep. who does Stanford have in it

looks like Oregon is not entered

Michigan might be my favorite, although villanova is tough
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:07 am

Michigan is no longer on the start list of the DMR. Looks like we're headed for a slow race with a sprint finish.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 am

As Dartmouth has dropped from the DMR....will Abbey run anything else at Penn?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:32 pm

lloks like villannoa or Georgetown to me

although Stanford is a a darkhorse
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Dutra5 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:00 pm

aaronk wrote:As Dartmouth has dropped from the DMR....will Abbey run anything else at Penn?


Dartmouth is not listed amongst the competing schools according to the PR website.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:58 pm

Updated relay pool information for Penn Relays USA vs World (actual relay lineups will be released Friday):

http://www.thepennrelays.com/ViewArticl ... =207392060

And the article also states that Jeter is out.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:41 pm

Blues wrote:Updated relay pool information for Penn Relays USA vs World (actual relay lineups will be released Friday):

http://www.thepennrelays.com/ViewArticl ... =207392060

And the article also states that Jeter is out.


That 4 X 800 USA squad looks unbeatable....albeit not knowing what kind of team Russia will bring in.
One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!
If all those sub-2:00 women can't run better than an average 2:04.48, I'd be shocked!!
But who should run lead-off??
I'd go with Montano.
She's the most aggressive runner in the pack.....always willing to take it out from the gun.
Get a 1:57 or 158 out of her, and the others might get inspired to try for sub-2:00's also, thus guaranteeing a sub-8:00 time.

As for the DMR, where's the USA 400 guy?
They're all milers/800 types. Will Sowinski or Symmonds serve as the "400" person?
Why can't Wariner or Merritt or McQuay et al run that leg??
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:49 pm

The 600 AR should be good for a 400, don't you think, after all, you are a proponent of the 400/800 conversion/predictions?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:37 pm

It will be someone like David Neville or Greg Nixon running the 400 leg.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jazzcyclist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:41 pm

Unfortunately, I'm going to miss Penn this year, the first I've missed since 2007. If someone ever invents a device that will allow you to be in two places at one time, I would defintely buy one. It's so wrong that the Drake Relays, the Penn Relays and the opening weekend of the New Orleans Jazz Fest take place on the same weekend.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:45 pm

The Penn Relays will be live on NBC this Saturday afternoon beginnin at 1pm ET
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Dutra5 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:56 pm

jamboy wrote:The Penn Relays will be live on NBC this Saturday afternoon beginnin at 1pm ET


Drake is on Saturday at 8pm on ESPN (one of their channels). I'm sure that's a tape delay.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
jamboy wrote:The Penn Relays will be live on NBC this Saturday afternoon beginnin at 1pm ET


Drake is on Saturday at 8pm on ESPN (one of their channels). I'm sure that's a tape delay.


Any big name athletes running at the Drake Relays? It seems that most of the US big name athletes will be taking part in the USA vs the World Relays at Penn
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:34 pm

if you can't see beyond the sprint relays, I guess that's true.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby GDAWG » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:30 pm

jamboy wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:
jamboy wrote:The Penn Relays will be live on NBC this Saturday afternoon beginnin at 1pm ET


Drake is on Saturday at 8pm on ESPN (one of their channels). I'm sure that's a tape delay.


Any big name athletes running at the Drake Relays? It seems that most of the US big name athletes will be taking part in the USA vs the World Relays at Penn


The names at Drake:

http://www.godrakebulldogs.com/ViewArti ... M_ID=15700
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:17 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:Unfortunately, I'm going to miss Penn this year, the first I've missed since 2007. If someone ever invents a device that will allow you to be in two places at one time, I would defintely buy one. It's so wrong that the Drake Relays, the Penn Relays and the opening weekend of the New Orleans Jazz Fest take place on the same weekend.


Well, to be able to stay (at least almost ) at home and go to the Jazz Festival is a choice that cannot be faulted. You can report from there as well. :wink:
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby KevinM » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:42 pm

aaronk wrote:One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!


I assume you mean AR?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:03 pm

KevinM wrote:
aaronk wrote:One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!


I assume you mean AR?


Correct!
My bad!

But wouldn't it be nice if our gals could each average 1:57.54 to GET that "WR"??!!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:53 am

Two CR's in the women's relays could go.
And Oregon might get both!!

The SMR record is 3:41.78.
UO's team consists of Francis, Prandini, Gardner, and Roesler.
To get the record, assuming that's the line-up...and order of running....Francis would need to run 52 or 53, Gardner under 23.0, Prandini around 23, and Roesler a 2:02 or 2:03.
Tough, but doable.

However, UO might break the record....and LOSE!!
That's because LSU has a FANTASTIC threesome on their squad!
If Lipsey runs the 400, she could do 52 or 53. (But Goule, who ran 2:00.76 for 800, has a 51 PR!)
They'll have Kimberly Duncan on one of the 200 legs, and Goule on the anchor (unless they reverse Goule and Lipsey!).
LSU would be favored on the 800 leg, and Duncan's 200 leg (even against Gardner!), with Francis probably faster on the 400 leg.

The CR could go....but even odds on which team prevails!!

The 4 X 1500 record is a bit tougher....mainly because the key player for Oregon's team is AWOL. Jordan Hasay is saving herself for her Stanford 10K.

But even without Hasay, the 4 team members 1500 PR's add up to about 17:06....about 2 seconds better than the 17:08.34 CR.

It's doable......NEVER underestimate Oregon!!!....but tough!!

P.S. One UO member is from my hometown....Bellingham WA!!! (Becca Friday!!)
Yayyyy!!! :D
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:52 am

Weather Forecast for Penn Relays as of 7:46am
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:06 pm

According to today's Penn Relays press release, two additional athletes who will be attending the USA vs the World press conference at Penn (and who I assume will be competing) are Janeth Jepkosgei (Kenya) and Christine Ohuruogu (Great Britain). It will be interesting to see who their teammates will be, if TBO is running the 4x4 for the United Kingdom and Jepkosgei is running the 4x8 for Kenya...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby iain » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:12 pm

Blues wrote:According to today's Penn Relays press release, two additional athletes who will be attending the USA vs the World press conference at Penn (and who I assume will be competing) are Janeth Jepkosgei (Kenya) and Christine Ohuruogu (Great Britain). It will be interesting to see who their teammates will be, if TBO is running the 4x4 for the United Kingdom and Jepkosgei is running the 4x8 for Kenya...


Women's GB 4x4 will be Eilidh Child, Shana Cox, Perri Shakes-Drayton & Christine Ohuruogu
Women's KEN 4x8 will be Winny Chebet, Helen Obiri, Nancy Jebet Langat & Janeth Jepkosgei
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby lionelp1 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:00 pm

aaronk wrote:
KevinM wrote:
aaronk wrote:One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!


I assume you mean AR?


Correct!
My bad!

But wouldn't it be nice if our gals could each average 1:57.54 to GET that "WR"??!!


my bad??? my small, my large,my ... you mean " my mistake"..(Pronoun followed by a noun). or are you Merkans changing the English language. Its even infecting GB sadly so that twerps can feel "modern"
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:02 pm

I think it is a text-derived short cut for 'my mistake' and other similar, longer explanations.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:25 am

lionelp1 wrote:
aaronk wrote:
KevinM wrote:
aaronk wrote:One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!


I assume you mean AR?


Correct!
My bad!

But wouldn't it be nice if our gals could each average 1:57.54 to GET that "WR"??!!


my bad??? my small, my large,my ... you mean " my mistake"..(Pronoun followed by a noun). or are you Merkans changing the English language. Its even infecting GB sadly so that twerps can feel "modern"


Are you a Kings Road Mod, old Chap??
You don't suss me lingo, eh what?
Let's meet at the Pub for a bit of ale!
Blimey, I can't, Matey! I'm late for the Athletics meeting! :P :P
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby sprint_disciple » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:41 am

Is it me or is Jamaica's high school athletes noticeably older than USA's? I also noticed that Shaunae Miller, NCAA indoor 400m champ is entered in the high school section of the meet, is this a typo?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:52 am

lionelp1 wrote:....
my bad??? my small, my large,my ... you mean " my mistake"..(Pronoun followed by a noun). or are you Merkans changing the English language. Its even infecting GB sadly so that twerps can feel "modern"


my day for a short fuse.... second U.S. insult in a couple of days (as part of a history thereof). Enjoy your vacation too. (actually, I was in a really good mood the other day, or would have banned you then for an egregious drug reference that I simply cut)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:00 am

sprint_disciple wrote:Is it me or is Jamaica's high school athletes noticeably older than USA's? I also noticed that Shaunae Miller, NCAA indoor 400m champ is entered in the high school section of the meet, is this a typo?


The University of Georgia, Shaunae Miller's school, is competing at the Drake Relays, so I don't think anyone will see Shaunae Miller at Penn. (She isn't listed as running on the Bahamas USA vs the World women's 4x4 team at Penn either, in case anyone thought that might be a possibility.)

As far as age goes, the Penn Relays high school eligibility requirements are:

Specific eligibility requirements, such as that of age limit, shall be those established by the State High School Athletic Association under which they regularly compete. However, in no instance may an athlete exceed the following limits:

Age limit: athlete may not turn 20 before July 1 of 2013.

High School attendance limit: 8 semesters (7th and 8th grade students are ineligible, as are students who may have participated during their 7th or 8th grade years).


I've been aware of the birth dates of various top relay team members at Penn over the years, and there does seem to be a slightly higher percentage of 19 year olds on Jamaican teams (most likely due to differences between the US and Jamaican secondary school systems), but that isn't always the case. At any rate, as long as it's okay with the scholastic athletic association that the athlete normally competes under, a high school athlete at Penn can be almost 19 years and 10 months old..
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:35 am

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=102

little wins, beats Jamaicans, no jam undwer 60

cold a nd windy not jam weather
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby shivfan » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:53 am

Holmwood wins their 4x1 high school girls heat in 45.52, I think, fastest time for that section so far....

Audio race commentary here, in between cricket commentary....

http://www.klassportsradio.com/index.html/
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:55 am

az2004 wrote:http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=102

little wins, beats Jamaicans, no jam undwer 60

cold a nd windy not jam weather


Little and Shaw are also the 1st two girls under 60 this year on US High School list.
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