The 119th Running of The Penn Relays


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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:27 pm

jamboy wrote:On the Saturday, the crowd is about 80% pro Jamaican.


I think your figure might be a little inflated... From all the years I've attended Penn on Saturday, it doesn't seem that the Jamaican fan attendance is anywhere near as high as 80% if you include all sections of the stadium. Too bad there's not a nationality checkbox on the ticket order forms so we could settle this once and for all. (wink).

Besides all the non-Jamaican track and field and athletic fans who attend, relatives and friends of US athletes attend as well, and the vast majority of athletes competing on Saturday aren't Jamaican. By claiming the Saturday crowd is 80% Jamaican, it would mean that there are only about 10,000 spectators who aren't pro Jamaican in the entire stadium, which definitely isn't the case. And the noise made when a US team wins an international relay is a heck of a lot louder than the noise that a mere 20% of the stadium could make too. The Jamaican fan attendance is obviously significant, but I think that 80% is really stretching it.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:19 am

gktrack wrote:
az2004 wrote:https://www.pennrelaysonline.com/Registration/HSAcceptances.aspx

hs acceptances for penn

are these in order of entry seed/performance?



from what I understand these are in order by seed
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:23 am

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby TxHottrack » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:57 am

aaronk wrote:I'm sure Penn will be a great meet, as always.
Never attended, but would LOVE to!! (No money for tix, hotel, or travel expenses!)

That said, it appears Drake will give Penn a run for its money....as least so far as having "big names" goes.
NOT saying Penn won't have its share of "big names" too, but this year's edition of Drake SEEMS more loaded with the "BIG" names than it's had before....or at least for a few years!!

Aries Merritt
Jason Richardson
Dawn Harper
Kellie Wells
Lolo Jones
Felix Sanchez
Liguelin Santos
Jeremy Wariner
Jenn Suhr
Renaud Lavillenie
Ryan Whiting
Christian Cantwell
Reese Hoffa
Britney Reese
Jeff Porter
Michael Tinsley
Javier Culson
Johnny Dutch
Morgan Uceny
Jenny Simpson
Shannon Rowbury
and
Mary Cain!!!

I hope BOTH meets shine.....but this year, I'll be focused on Drake.
And the women's 1500 meters!!

(AND all the other events!! But let's face it, last year's Penn HS star, and this year's indoor star.....will be at Drake, not Penn!!)



You forgot to mention Texas women will be there as well! :D Hook em'
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:29 am

Expect more interest in competing at the facility that will hold the Trials in June - it is not in Philadelphia...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:42 am

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby LadyT » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:12 am

So Penn Relays is replacing the USA v. The World women's Sprint Medley Relay with the 4x800! I'm interested to see who will compete for Team USA since there is a lot of talent out there. However, some of that top 800m talent will be at Drake. I would like to see Ajee Wilson on one of those teams.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:36 am

LadyT wrote:So Penn Relays is replacing the USA v. The World women's Sprint Medley Relay with the 4x800! I'm interested to see who will compete for Team USA since there is a lot of talent out there. However, some of that top 800m talent will be at Drake. I would like to see Ajee Wilson on one of those teams.


Great to hear!
The AR for the women's 4X800 is held by a team from Tennessee, time of 8:17.91.
I would think we could get together a group of gals who can average better than 2:04.48 per 800!!

Heck, a team including high schooler Sabrina Southerland (2:03.59) could get that SOFT record!!
Now, to break 8:00, that's another story!!
But the US has more than 4 sub-2:00 women who might be available...and in shape....to go under 8 minutes!!

BTW, the WR is 7:50.17 by a Russian team!!
That's an average of 1:57.54 per 800!!
Right now, Alysia Montano is the only American to have run that fast!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby KevinM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:58 am

aaronk wrote:The AR for the women's 4X800 is held by a team from Tennessee, time of 8:17.91.


Does anyone know why this Athletics West team isn’t credited with the AR? From Peter Larsen’s lists at alltime-athletics.com, an AW team of Sue Addison, Lee Arbogast, Mary Slaney, and Chris Gregorek ran 8:17.09 at Mt. SAC in 1983.

BTW, the WR is 7:50.17 by a Russian team!!


The top end of that women's 4x8 list is pretty much a joke.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:21 am

KevinM wrote:
aaronk wrote:The AR for the women's 4X800 is held by a team from Tennessee, time of 8:17.91.


Does anyone know why this Athletics West team isn’t credited with the AR? From Peter Larsen’s lists at alltime-athletics.com, an AW team of Sue Addison, Lee Arbogast, Mary Slaney, and Chris Gregorek ran 8:17.09 at Mt. SAC in 1983.

BTW, the WR is 7:50.17 by a Russian team!!


The top end of that women's 4x8 list is pretty much a joke.


Have no idea why the AW team's mark is not the AR!
I got the info from the 2012 FAST Annual.
It lists the AR as the Tennessee team's mark.
(Which, for a college team, is stupendous!! Chanelle Price ran 2nd leg of 2:02.45, then Sarah Bowman (Brown) ran 2:03.70, then the anchor leg of Phoebe Wright was 2:02.62!!)

The All Time list in FAST has the AW team's mark in first, with Tennessee second!
I can't see any reason why AW's mark isn't the AR!!

Whatever the case, a time VERY close to 8:00 (or under!!) is possible for our current crop of female 800 runners!!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby LadyT » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:20 pm

In order for any team to run close to 8 min, they will need to be pushed. The big question is who is in the line-up and who will the competition be. They will definitely need two US squads and maybe an international squad.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby CookyMonzta » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:09 pm

LadyT wrote:In order for any team to run close to 8 min, they will need to be pushed. The big question is who is in the line-up and who will the competition be. They will definitely need two US squads and maybe an international squad.

Obviously they need Russia and perhaps Kenya (with Jelimo, Jepkosgei and perhaps Langat) there.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby GDAWG » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:22 pm

Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:52 pm

KevinM wrote:
Does anyone know why this Athletics West team isn’t credited with the AR? From Peter Larsen’s lists at alltime-athletics.com, an AW team of Sue Addison, Lee Arbogast, Mary Slaney, and Chris Gregorek ran 8:17.09 at Mt. SAC in 1983.



I wonder if the mark was never submitted for ratification or it's something such as one of the women not being full members of AW or some like situation.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:08 am

Looks like J. Gatlin, R. Bailey, D. Patton expected to be at Penn... all entered in the open 100...
http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=480
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby dj » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:55 am

gktrack wrote:Looks like J. Gatlin, R. Bailey, D. Patton expected to be at Penn... all entered in the open 100...
http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=480


Don't expect that to be the case. There are always changes in that race depending on who does and does not run in the USA/World 4x100.

If these three run on either of the two USA teams in the 4x100 (final line-ups not determined until after Friday practice), I'd be surprised if they ran the 100.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby norunner » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:57 am

gktrack wrote:Looks like J. Gatlin, R. Bailey, D. Patton expected to be at Penn... all entered in the open 100...
http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=480
How does a guy like Patrick Domogala from Germany (PB 10.39) get into a race with Gatlin, Bailey and Patton at the Penn Relays? Gotta be lots of faster guys there.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:20 am

Have the line-ups for the men's 4 X 800 and the DMR been chosen yet?
I'm sure it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if the following USA teams came to pass (pun intended! :D )?

4 X 800

Jock, Wheating, Symmonds, Solomon.

A sub-7:00 would be possible there!!

DMR (1200, 400, 800, 1600)

Lagat, Wariner, Solomon, Manzano

A sub-9:10 is possible there.
(2:50, 44, 1:44, 3:51=9:09!!)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:23 am

GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby mcgato » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:10 am

Allyson Felix and Sanya Richards-Ross have also been announced as being there.
http://articles.philly.com/2013-04-21/s ... y-carnival
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby iain » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:26 am

aaronk wrote:Have the line-ups for the men's 4 X 800 and the DMR been chosen yet?
I'm sure it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if the following USA teams came to pass (pun intended! :D )?

4 X 800

Jock, Wheating, Symmonds, Solomon.

A sub-7:00 would be possible there!!

DMR (1200, 400, 800, 1600)

Lagat, Wariner, Solomon, Manzano

A sub-9:10 is possible there.
(2:50, 44, 1:44, 3:51=9:09!!)


The 4x800m is for women
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 am

dj wrote:
gktrack wrote:Looks like J. Gatlin, R. Bailey, D. Patton expected to be at Penn... all entered in the open 100...
http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=480


Don't expect that to be the case. There are always changes in that race depending on who does and does not run in the USA/World 4x100.

If these three run on either of the two USA teams in the 4x100 (final line-ups not determined until after Friday practice), I'd be surprised if they ran the 100.

Agree - just glad to see some big 100 names for the US at Penn and eventually hoping they will be on on the relays. I can't remember the last time I saw the USA's 100 biggies in an individual event at Penn, never paid much attention to that event I guess.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:44 am

Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:11 am

JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:48 am

gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.


Supposedly the entire US gold medal women's 4x100 team from London will be running at Penn. Hopefully Carmelita will still be running. She stated that she's going to practice as usual today, and that it was just a slight cramp on the weekend, so at least at this time there's no indication of a withdrawal.

As far as the men's 4x4 goes, I've seen recent articles that state that Felix Sanchez and Lalonde Gordon will be two of the other members on the Caribbean All Star 4x4 team with Kirani James. There's a team from Trinidad and Tobago on the start list though, so I don't know if Gordon will still run with James and Sanchez on the All Star team if there's a T&T team... (The article I saw that stated that Gordon would be running on the same team as James was from 2 weeks ago in a TrackAlerts article.)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:16 am

Blues wrote:
gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.


Supposedly the entire US gold medal women's 4x100 team from London will be running at Penn. Hopefully Carmelita will still be running. She stated that she's going to practice as usual today, and that it was just a slight cramp on the weekend, so at least at this time there's no indication of a withdrawal.

As far as the men's 4x4 goes, I've seen recent articles that state that Felix Sanchez and Lalonde Gordon will be two of the other members on the Caribbean All Star 4x4 team with Kirani James. There's a team from Trinidad and Tobago on the start list though, so I don't know if Gordon will still run with James and Sanchez on the All Star team if there's a T&T team... (The article I saw that stated that Gordon would be running on the same team as James was from 2 weeks ago in a TrackAlerts article.)


Felix Sanchez was announced as entered at Drake.
Not sure what the two schedules are like (Penn and Drake), but maybe he's intending to run both!!
It could be done if his events at each are on different days!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Grasshopper » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:33 am

jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby t_monk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:34 am

Grasshopper wrote:
jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.


I would be ill advised if she did appear....
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:12 pm

hs boys 4X1 preview at penn

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=466

2 under 40
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:14 pm

4X8

hs boys cententiall from Nevada #1 seed

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=485
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:15 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:18 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 pm

4X1

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=343

long beach poly versus Jamaicans hsg
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 pm

aaronk wrote:
Felix Sanchez was announced as entered at Drake.
Not sure what the two schedules are like (Penn and Drake), but maybe he's intending to run both!!
It could be done if his events at each are on different days!


Here's the USATF press release from 4/18, which is where I read about Sanchez running at Penn:

http://www.usatf.org/News/Outdoor-USATF ... ith-U.aspx

I guess they could be wrong though, or else he could be traveling from Iowa. According to the Drake website, Lalonde Gordon is also entered at Drake in the 400. The men's 400h and 400 at Drake are scheduled for Friday night at 6:58pm and 7:45pm respectively, so running a 4x4 in Philly the next afternoon at 2:52pm is at least possible...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:23 pm

4X800


Wisconsin team vertsus Jamaica


nena rocketes

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=337
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:26 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:40 pm

az2004 - These are great previews... didn't realize Vere's ridiculously good HS G4x4 team would be without their star runner and that a prep can only run at Penn 4 years... good stuff.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:03 pm

t_monk wrote:
Grasshopper wrote:
jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.


I would be ill advised if she did appear....


she's now out of Penn and the Doha DL meet. (see front page)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:16 pm

damn Jeter is out...:(
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