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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby Blues » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:24 am

Master Po wrote:TFRRS NCAA D1 Outdoor Qualifying List -- women
http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/1029.html?gender=f#12

UVU Collegiate Invite meet results 29 March 2013 -- men's 800m
http://www.tfrrs.org/results/29707_1848908.html

I noticed in looking at the collegiate lists that Jessica Sargent (freshman, Idaho State) is the 800m list leader with a time of "1:59.71@". This seems noteworthy to me, but as no one has discussed it (unless I missed it somewhere out here), it must be the case that everyone but me who happens to be following USA collegiate T&F knows how to interpret this mark. In any case, I have some questions, from the trivial to the -- well, they're all trivial, but anyway...

1.What does "@" mean in these lists?

2. In looking at the actual meet results for this mark, I see that her mark is listed in the results as 2:00.32. It would still be the collegiate list leader, but why the difference between the "1:59.71@" and the "2:00.32"?

3. I note she is listed as running this in a mixed race -- i.e., Heat 2 of the men's 800. Assuming this mark is accurate in one (1:59) or the other (2:00) number, how will it be used for qualifying, etc. purposes? I assume not used, but don't know.

4. Who the heck is Jessica Sargent, anyway? I spent a brief amount of time digging out some prep marks from 2012, and her collegiate profile at ISU, and all I got was:

http://id.milesplit.com/athletes/266312 ... ca-sargent

http://www.isubengals.com/roster.aspx?r ... ath=wtrack

which lists some modest 200m & 400m times from last season at Highland HS (Pocatello, ID).

Even if this performance in a men's race is actually the slower time (2:00.32) and even if it doesn't count for rankings, qualifying, etc., it's still really impressive and surprising (to me). Any insight on this is appreciated! (Where are you aaronk? I count on you to be studying these lists in great depth and detail, and commenting! :D )


I think it's either a computer glitch on the part of TFRRS, or their site got hacked. In the UVU meet, Jessica Sargent finished 18th in the women's 400m, with a time of 1:03.33. She also anchored the Idaho State "C" team to a 4:17.75 seventh place finish in the 4x4. She's not currently listed in the results of any 800m race from the results on the UVU site. (In the official results from the UVU site at the link below, Justin Senecal of Idaho State is listed as having run 2:00.32 in the second heat of the men's race. He has the same initials as Ms. Sargent, although I don't know if that has anything to do with the mix-up.)

http://results.runnercard.com/Results/r ... eetid=4451
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby Master Po » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:49 am

Thanks, blues. That makes sense. :)
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:44 am

Master Po wrote:Thanks, blues. That makes sense. :)


If you right click on those results you'll see that Ms. Sargent has other PRs of 28.4 200m and 63.3 400m and has no bio on her profile page which would be pretty odd for a 2 flat woman. So there must be some sort of coding error.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby DecFan » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:21 am

aaronk wrote:At the Spartan Invitational:
Kayla Caldwell (Who is she??) from Hillsdale (Where, and what, is that??) had a PV of 14-2!!
I'm pretty sure Hillsdale is a school of some sort, so 14-2 is pretty good!!


Hillsdale is a college in Michigan, which competes in NCAA Div 2. Kayla is 21. She finished 7th at the NCAA D2 indoor championships in 2010; her page at Hillsdale doesn't list any results for last season. Looks like her PR from back then was 4.00, so 14-2/4.32 would be a big improvement.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:09 pm

While noting that the World Leaders (also US, Coll. and HS) aren't always totally up-to-date....for various reasons......let me amend the current WL listings.

Henry Lelei's 8:32.94 is apparently the WL now.
Julian Wruck's 216-8 is a one inch improvement in his CL.
Kori Carter's 54.71 now is the WL in the 400H.
(BTW, I believe Moline's 54.98 is an IN SEASON PR for her....her faster times coming AFTER the NCAA last year!)

Also, Goule's 2:01.18 is, I believe, the OUTDOOR 800 WL.
The listed WL is from INdoors!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby CKuykendall » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:53 pm

I don't know if it's just me, or what, but I have the sense that some of the collegiate track & field websites are getting re-designed into badness. At the Oregon website, over the weekend, how to get results of the Pepsi Invitational was a complete mystery, and in this case it wasn't just me, as I heard the complaint even more vociferously from somebody else. If one clicked on the Schedule Link, and then Live Stats, the result was a message, "Live Stats will appear in a new popup window. Please disable your popup blocker for this site in order to view the Live Stats." Well, whether or not disabling a popup blocker actually worked (I didn't bother to try), no other collegiate results webpages I know of puts up this particular type of barrier to results. Eventually, Sunday, clicking on Top Stories and going to the one on the meet led to a results link hiding not too conspicuously underneath the photo. Picking the HTML option then led to a familiar Hy-Tek results setup, posing the obvious question: Why not have this link there obvious, to start with, on Saturday while the meet is going on? Like the Texas Relays, and a lot of others that use the Hy-Tek format? Then the Sun Angel results at the Arizona State website were problematic, although this is not much different from Arizona State historically. Usually one just has to wait. They're slow. Meanwhile, the Arizona website is now hard to decipher and navigate. It now has a subdued (seemingly grayed out) area that's actually clickable, even though it looks like it should not be. In a nutshell, harder to figure out than before. Finally, I searched for a good while for the whereabouts of the Clemson roster link before eventually finding it all the way at the bottom of their website. Everybody else in the U.S. collegiate scene has the roster link somewhere near the top.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby Marlow » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:05 pm

The best results pages are the ones that have links down the left side of the page that bring up results on the right side - WITHOUT having to navigate back and forth to the links page. Why can't all results pages be that way??!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gm » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:45 pm

Cody Branch has developed a nice mobile results interface for the meets he times. Give it a look-see at http://branchsportstech.com/2013_Meets/ ... de/Mobile/
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:13 am

I had the same problem with the Pepsi results from Eugene!!
Never did figure it out....so just gave up and waited for T&FN to post the results!!
Ditto with 1 or 2 other meets I was trying to follow the results....Sun Angel in particular!!
(I notice CKuykendall mentions Sun Angel too!!)

Florida Relays was VERY easy!!

However, on NONE of them did I find the field events results presented as they happened...throw by throw, jump by jump!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby Dutra5 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:32 am

aaronk wrote:I had the same problem with the Pepsi results from Eugene!!
Never did figure it out....so just gave up and waited for T&FN to post the results!!
Ditto with 1 or 2 other meets I was trying to follow the results....Sun Angel in particular!!
(I notice CKuykendall mentions Sun Angel too!!)

Florida Relays was VERY easy!!

However, on NONE of them did I find the field events results presented as they happened...throw by throw, jump by jump!!


FL Relays used Delta Timing which doesn't post the results of an event until the event is completed. No heat by heat, throw by throw, jump by jump, etc.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby kcaldwell » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:11 pm

Hi I am Kayla Caldwell =) i know some of you have been asking who i am so here is your answer. i am a NCAA division II pole vaulter for Hillsdale College (which is one of the best academic schools in the country so that is probably why you havent heard much about sports from here lol) i am 21 i am graduating this year and going to train in arkansas with earl bell after i graduate. my pr before this past weekend was 4.25 and i am a 6 time All Amerian. if you are interested further you an find my facebook by looking up kayla caldwell hillsdale. God Bless =)
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:21 pm

kcaldwell wrote:Hi I am Kayla Caldwell =) i know some of you have been asking who i am so here is your answer. i am a NCAA division II pole vaulter for Hillsdale College (which is one of the best academic schools in the country so that is probably why you havent heard much about sports from here lol) i am 21 i am graduating this year and going to train in arkansas with earl bell after i graduate. my pr before this past weekend was 4.25 and i am a 6 time All Amerian. if you are interested further you an find my facebook by looking up kayla caldwell hillsdale. God Bless =)


Don't see these kinda posts very often... nice of you to take the time to clue us in Kayla... Best wishes in your PVing
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:29 am

Mt. SAC confirmations posted...
http://www.mtsacrelays.com/confirmations/2013/uoconfirmationsteam.pdf
A few names: Demus, Uceny, Moline, Rutherford, Kynard/Williams, Jeter, Nellum, a few Oregon girls, A. Eaton testing his pentathlon skills in the 200, and of course, Kayla Caldwell from Hillsdale College in the PV.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:03 am

Julian Wruck's 217-7 DT in Australia moves him to number four all time collegiate!!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:47 am

Two big track meets today.

Utech Classic going on now at the National Stadium in Kingston, Jamaica. MVP, Racers and some of the top high school and collegiate athletes taking part.


Chris Brown Classic in the Bahamas. Veronica Campbell, Justin Gatlin among other top athletes taking part.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:06 am

jamboy wrote:Two big track meets today.

Utech Classic going on now at the National Stadium in Kingston, Jamaica. MVP, Racers and some of the top high school and collegiate athletes taking part.


Chris Brown Classic in the Bahamas. Veronica Campbell, Justin Gatlin among other top athletes taking part.


Any links to the results??
Or will YOU keep us informed?? :)
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:21 am

aaronk wrote:
jamboy wrote:Two big track meets today.

Utech Classic going on now at the National Stadium in Kingston, Jamaica. MVP, Racers and some of the top high school and collegiate athletes taking part.


Chris Brown Classic in the Bahamas. Veronica Campbell, Justin Gatlin among other top athletes taking part.


Any links to the results??
Or will YOU keep us informed?? :)




Live streaming of the Bahamas meet here
http://bahamasinvitational.com/z/index. ... ive-stream


I will post results of the Utech Classic meet as I get them.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby EPelle » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:18 am

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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:35 pm

Some good collegiate marks to report:

At Sea Ray, Felisha Johnson got the longest OUTdoor SP of the year, with her 59-4 & 3/4.

At the "Battle of the Bayou" meet, Kim Duncan ran 22.82, but with a MINUS 0.4 wind!!
Anna Jelmini threw the discus 194-5.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:05 pm

Natasha Hastings upset VCB in the 200, 23.13 to 23.18.
Can't get the live results, so am following the live blog.
No wind info as yet!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:08 pm

Vernon Norwood (South Plains) 45.56 at UTEP.

A. Merritt opens at Arkansas with a 13.23 (2.1)
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:10 pm

Merrit 20.34 over Gatlin 20.44 and Rodgers
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:11 pm

L Merritt beat Gatlin in the Bahamas, 20.34 to 20.44.
No wind info as yet.
Also, D Pinder was injured, and taken from the track in a wheelchair!!
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:15 pm

Gatlin 200?i heard this week that he would run 100, why finally he made 200, somebody know?¿
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:18 pm

aaronk wrote:Natasha Hastings upset VCB in the 200, 23.13 to 23.18.
Can't get the live results, so am following the live blog.
No wind info as yet!!

Live results here (need to refresh browser), Excel format with no wind readings...
http://bahamasinvitational.com/z/index.php/meet-info/live-results
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:33 pm

gktrack wrote:
aaronk wrote:Natasha Hastings upset VCB in the 200, 23.13 to 23.18.
Can't get the live results, so am following the live blog.
No wind info as yet!!

Live results here (need to refresh browser), Excel format with no wind readings...
http://bahamasinvitational.com/z/index.php/meet-info/live-results


Thank you!
But I've become sold on the live blog!
They're putting up brief interviews, and photos, and lots of "color" comments.
(NOT racial color....I meant them giving details....like the crowd reaction!!)
It's fun! :D
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:39 pm

Good results from the meet in Jamaica.

Olympic Bronze medalist Warren Weir won his 200m heat easily. Also, Kemar Bailey Cole won his heat.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:52 pm

Lauryn Williams 11.13 (1.6) at Miami meet over A. Scott (different heat), at 29 years old, her best legal 100 since 2009.

and Josh Mance (unattached) at FSU meet w/ new outdoor WL at 45.43
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:57 pm

Yohan Blake getting ready to run the mens 100m against Kim Collins.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:05 pm

Kirani James 44.72 in Bahamas meet.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:13 pm

jamboy wrote:Kirani James 44.72 in Bahamas meet.

Well, J. Mance's 45.43 WL lasted an hour or so... and K. James a full second over the Bahama's duo. The kid is an incredible talent.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:18 pm

Carrie Russel of Utech just had an amazing run in the womens 100m in 11.07.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:31 pm

Yohan Blake pulls up injured in mens 100m. Race won by Collins.

He is walking away on his own so I guess it can't be too bad.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Octavious Freeman 22.57 (0.1) at Miami.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby jamboy » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Jamaica's Andrew Riley beats David Oliver in the mens 110m hurdles race in 13.11 in the Bahamas.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:41 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Octavious Freeman 22.57 (0.1) at Miami.

Outdoor WL... right behind her, L. Williams in 22.58
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby t_monk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:50 pm

Stephanis McPherson 50.74, 2nd was 53.56
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:53 pm

LaShawn Merritt ran 20.34 and Gatlin ran 20.44 at the Bahamas.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:03 pm

To JumboElliot - with a name like that, are you following Villanova's mid-distance women down in Miami - 5 girls averaging about 2:06 today - eventually, they should break that NCAA 4x800 record, maybe at Penn.
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Re: 2013 Outdoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:06 pm

JumboElliott wrote:LaShawn Merritt ran 20.34 and Gatlin ran 20.44 at the Bahamas.


Already reported....by two people!....about 2 hours ago! :)
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