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2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:24 am

I'm wondering if this book will be available in a print edition this year.
Last year, it was advertised in the May issue of T&FN.
This year, no ad!
I can't find any info on it on the USATF website about it.

Hopefully, it WILL be available in a print edition.
I rely on this book for research and at-hand information almost every day!!

Anyone know why no ad in T&FN?
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:09 am

I've already gotten my dues notification from FAST and the blurb did indeed say that I would be receiving my FAST Annual when done.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby polevaultpower » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:12 am

It will be released at Penn Relays.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:34 am

Marlow wrote:I've already gotten my dues notification from FAST and the blurb did indeed say that I would be receiving my FAST Annual when done.
polevaultpower wrote:It will be released at Penn Relays.


Thanks for the quick response.
Still wondering why they didn't advertise.
Last year, they did....in the May issue.

Anyway, do you have a link to the price, and address where to send the $$$??
Otherwise, I'll have to wait till the June issue of T&FN, hoping they advertise it then!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:13 am

Our own bambam is a main honcho of FAST.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby gh » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:42 am

polevaultpower wrote:It will be released at Penn Relays.


Which as I've been kvetching at them for years, is absolutely nuts. The U.S. season runs from January through June, so not only has 2/3 of the season gone by at this juncture, April is by far the busiest month of the year.

In an electronic age where prople expect everything yesterday, producing a book that features 2012 lists at a time when the 2013 one is largely formed doesn't cut it for me.

Of course, if USATF wants to take a narrow view of its mission, and serve only meets in which it is directly involved, rather than overseeing the sport as a whole, I can better understand the stance.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby br » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:34 am

When my TAFWA renewal came, this was included in the notice...

"Dues must arrive before the end of April if you want a copy of the 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual (to be published by 1 May)."
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:58 am

gh wrote:In an electronic age where people expect everything yesterday, producing a book that features 2012 lists at a time when the 2013 one is largely formed doesn't cut it for me.

The IAAF Annual comes out very late also. The reason that T&FN can produce the annual issue so promptly (and eTNs every four seconds) can be directly attributed to their OCD work-aholic taskmaster. Not every organization can survive the brutal pace that T&FN sustains.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby gh » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:42 am

you know not of what you speak: our "pace" has nothing to do with it.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:20 am

Marlow wrote:
gh wrote:In an electronic age where people expect everything yesterday, producing a book that features 2012 lists at a time when the 2013 one is largely formed doesn't cut it for me.

The IAAF Annual comes out very late also. The reason that T&FN can produce the annual issue so promptly (and eTNs every four seconds) can be directly attributed to their OCD work-aholic taskmaster. Not every organization can survive the brutal pace that T&FN sustains.


The reason Peter Matthews' Athletics Annual comes out so late (May) is because they include (in its back pages) the complete indoor season lists from that year.

Since the indoor season ends about March 10, getting the book out by early May is pretty impressive!!

The World Almanac, in Presidential election years, has the complete election results, and comes out by December!!

P.S. I'm not a member of either FAST or TAFWA or USATF, so I've depended on the ad for the book that appears in T&FN. Last year, it appeared a month earlier than usual.
This year...not.
That's why I asked for the address and the cost....so I could order it now instead of waiting for next month's T&FN!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby tc » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:07 am

TAFWA and FAST are now a single organization, Jack Pfeifer is president, and bambam is a (most honorable) member.

I'm editor of the FAST Annual. The book will again be available in a print edition. The copy for the FAST Annual (the final 541 pages of the 2013 book) was essentially ready in February, a little later than usual because some lists had to be reassigned. As in 2012, the current publisher scheduled the book's delivery date for the Penn Relays weekend. That is their decision. This project is a complex undertaking, and we are happy to have an excellent product at the end of the process. This year's FAST section includes completely reworked all-time lists, deeper year lists (for 2012) than previous editions, new collegiate lists, more detailed indexes, and some graphical improvements that we hope will make the information easier to access.

Prices and ordering information for the Annual are the same as shown in the 2012 T&FN ads, which I don't have at hand right now. As soon as we receive our copies of the book, and your payment (sent to PO Box 192252, San Francisco 94119-2252, or via PayPal), we'll mail to you.

As always, your additions/corrections/ideas/gripes are welcome.

Ps. Athletics 2013 appears when it does not because Peter is awaiting the conclusion of the indoor season. He is still revising lists and index material into March, and the copy then needs to be formatted and printed -- a very big job.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:20 am

Would it be feasible to provide an electronic version in February to those that pay and then distribute the volume on the sprint schedule? Of course, the issue of electronic copying could be a big barrier.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:27 am

tc wrote:TAFWA and FAST are now a single organization, Jack Pfeifer is president, and bambam is a (most honorable) member.

I'm editor of the FAST Annual. The book will again be available in a print edition. The copy for the FAST Annual (the final 541 pages of the 2013 book) was essentially ready in February, a little later than usual because some lists had to be reassigned. As in 2012, the current publisher scheduled the book's delivery date for the Penn Relays weekend. That is their decision. This project is a complex undertaking, and we are happy to have an excellent product at the end of the process. This year's FAST section includes completely reworked all-time lists, deeper year lists (for 2012) than previous editions, new collegiate lists, more detailed indexes, and some graphical improvements that we hope will make the information easier to access.

Prices and ordering information for the Annual are the same as shown in the 2012 T&FN ads, which I don't have at hand right now. As soon as we receive our copies of the book, and your payment (sent to PO Box 192252, San Francisco 94119-2252, or via PayPal), we'll mail to you.

As always, your additions/corrections/ideas/gripes are welcome.

Ps. Athletics 2013 appears when it does not because Peter is awaiting the conclusion of the indoor season. He is still revising lists and index material into March, and the copy then needs to be formatted and printed -- a very big job.


Thanks so much for the info!!
But the address listed in the ad for the book is in Illinois, not San Francisco!
I'll mail a money order TODAY if you can tell me WHICH address is the one to mail to!!

Also, am I to imply by your post that the book will be ONLY the FAST part??
Will the book include BOTH (FAST and the USATF Media Guide)...or just the FAST portion??
Thanks again!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby exdrake » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am

imply

No, but go ahead and infer.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby tc » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:06 am

Re: an electronic FAST Annual: All things are possible in the future. Copyright protection would mandate a view-only version.

Re: ordering: The San Francisco address is new for 2013. The books will be mailed from Illinois, but the $$ should be sent to California.

The book includes the USATF Media Guide as well as the FAST Annual. I/we are responsible only for the latter, and don't know what this year's front section will contain.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:09 am

tc wrote:Re: an electronic FAST Annual: All things are possible in the future. Copyright protection would mandate a view-only version.

Re: ordering: The San Francisco address is new for 2013. The books will be mailed from Illinois, but the $$ should be sent to California.

The book includes the USATF Media Guide as well as the FAST Annual. I/we are responsible only for the latter, and don't know what this year's front section will contain.


Money order will be in the mail within the next two hours!!
Thank you MUCHO for the info!!! :D
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:42 pm

aaronk wrote:
Money order will be in the mail within the next two hours!!
Thank you MUCHO for the info!!! :D


It takes two hours to write a check and mail a letter?

:lol: :lol:
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:04 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
aaronk wrote:
Money order will be in the mail within the next two hours!!
Thank you MUCHO for the info!!! :D


It takes two hours to write a check and mail a letter?

:lol: :lol:


Yessir!!
Especially when...

you're not quite dressed....
you need to do food shopping first (and to get cash to pay for m.o.)...
you need to go to another place to buy the m.o.......
you're an Old Slow Fart like me.....
and you're having too much FUN scanning (and commenting on!) this Message Board!!

P.S. The deed is DONE!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:14 am

Book still planned for Penn release??
Is that the date it will be mailed?
Hope so!!

Can't wait!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby bambam » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:45 pm

tc wrote:TAFWA and FAST are now a single organization, Jack Pfeifer is president, and bambam is a (most honorable) member.


I'm an honorary member??? I didn't know that.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:54 pm

bambam wrote:
tc wrote:TAFWA and FAST are now a single organization, Jack Pfeifer is president, and bambam is a (most honorable) member.

I'm an honorary member??? I didn't know that.

Not sure about TAFWA, but I believe he was one of THE founding fathers of FAST. I am a charter member and NAMED it, though I never got any recognition for that (sniff, sniff)!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby wamego relays champ » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:45 pm

Marlow wrote: I am a charter member and NAMED it, though I never got any recognition for that (sniff, sniff)!


Not sure how much recognition is due for creating the acronym F.A.S.T., but if you are the one who came up with the group's motto, that is truly impressive!

I'm referring to: "These are the souls who time men's tries."


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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Tue May 07, 2013 4:53 pm

Did the book come out on time......during the Penn Relays??
Waiting anxiously for my copy.

(Tired of having to refer to my 2012 edition, which covers the 2011 season!)
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Tue May 07, 2013 5:55 pm

aaronk wrote:Did the book come out on time......during the Penn Relays??
Waiting anxiously for my copy.
(Tired of having to refer to my 2012 edition, which covers the 2011 season!)

Haven't gotten mine as a FAST member, but I see it advertised in this month's issue.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby tc » Wed May 08, 2013 9:52 am

The book is now available, for $25 postpaid in the US and $42 elsewhere, from PO Box 192252, San Francisco 94119-2252.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Wed May 08, 2013 10:09 am

tc wrote:The book is now available, for $25 postpaid in the US and $42 elsewhere, from PO Box 192252, San Francisco 94119-2252.


Yup!
Sent my money order about a month ago......
so just waiting for my copy to arrive!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby tc » Wed May 08, 2013 10:46 am

Patience is a virtue.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby lionelp1 » Wed May 08, 2013 10:49 am

The best Annual of all is of course the ATFS Athletics 2013, edited by Peter Matthews now out a week ago for me and de rigeur reading from first to last page.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Wed May 08, 2013 10:58 am

lionelp1 wrote:The best Annual of all is of course the ATFS Athletics 2013, edited by Peter Matthews now out a week ago for me and de rigeur reading from first to last page.


Amen!!
Although for USA info and stats, the USATF/FAST book is tops!!
Especially the bio section up front, and the index section in back.
I find out if people have ever run distances other than their specialty....and their year-by-year progress.

But I buy the ATFS Annual too.....every year.
I'll be ordering mine from Amazon on May 10, when they say it will be available there.
This too offers amazing material!!
A must have for stat freaks like me!!

The 3rd stat book I buy every year is Jack Shepard's HS Track.....which offers just about everything high school....outdoors AND indoors!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby lionelp1 » Thu May 09, 2013 1:16 pm

i was referring to the "world" of athletics not just primarily one country.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby gh » Thu May 09, 2013 5:11 pm

lionel, enough of your anti-American bullshit. period.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby aaronk » Mon May 13, 2013 2:35 pm

I got it, I got it!!
I feel like a new dad whose first baby was just born!!
Okay, okay, so it's just a damn BOOK!!
But WHATTA book!!
Bigger, and seemingly, better than ever!!
Thank you, USATF and FAST!!
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Halfmiler2 » Tue May 14, 2013 1:11 pm

My copy arrived today.
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Re: 2013 USATF Media Guide and FAST Annual

Postby Marlow » Thu May 16, 2013 2:30 pm

Halfmiler2 wrote:My copy arrived today.

Yeah, and I threw out my back dragging it back to the house . . . all 824 pages . . . :shock:
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