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The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby trackfan25 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:24 am

It's back! The historic Penn Relays will be returning to Franklin Field at the University of Pennsylvania, Thursday, April 25-Saturday, April 27. Tickets are on sale now so be sure to purchase them while seating is still available. For more infomation, call 1-855-UofP TIX or visit ThePennRelays.com. We look forward to seeing you there!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:04 pm

I'm sure Penn will be a great meet, as always.
Never attended, but would LOVE to!! (No money for tix, hotel, or travel expenses!)

That said, it appears Drake will give Penn a run for its money....as least so far as having "big names" goes.
NOT saying Penn won't have its share of "big names" too, but this year's edition of Drake SEEMS more loaded with the "BIG" names than it's had before....or at least for a few years!!

Aries Merritt
Jason Richardson
Dawn Harper
Kellie Wells
Lolo Jones
Felix Sanchez
Liguelin Santos
Jeremy Wariner
Jenn Suhr
Renaud Lavillenie
Ryan Whiting
Christian Cantwell
Reese Hoffa
Britney Reese
Jeff Porter
Michael Tinsley
Javier Culson
Johnny Dutch
Morgan Uceny
Jenny Simpson
Shannon Rowbury
and
Mary Cain!!!

I hope BOTH meets shine.....but this year, I'll be focused on Drake.
And the women's 1500 meters!!

(AND all the other events!! But let's face it, last year's Penn HS star, and this year's indoor star.....will be at Drake, not Penn!!)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:30 pm

aaronk wrote:and
Mary Cain!!!

I hope BOTH meets shine.....but this year, I'll be focused on Drake.
And the women's 1500 meters!!

(AND all the other events!! But let's face it, last year's Penn HS star, and this year's indoor star.....will be at Drake, not Penn!!)


Drake has some impressive athletes competing there this year... Many of the pros who'll be at Drake wouldn't necessarily be among the pros at Penn anyway though, since there aren't any USA vs the World hurdling or field events relays at Penn... It's my guess that the USA vs the World fields at Penn won't seem noticeably weaker than in prior years, despite the elite athletes who'll be at Drake.

Drake should be a great meet too, but I'll be at Penn. And I'm extremely curious to know whether aaron's personal shrine to Mary Cain in his home has spilled over into a second room yet!... :wink:
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby fourjz » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:36 pm

PENN RELAYS IS THE SUPER BOWL !! All others follow.I'll be at Penn. :mrgreen:
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby lonewolf » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:14 pm

Penn Relays is, indeed, a Carnival and one of the "funnist" meets I have ever worked. That said, I can see why, despite the unpredictable weather, elite athletes looking for optimum performances would opt for the superior facilities at Drake.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:12 am

Blues wrote:
aaronk wrote:and
Mary Cain!!!

I hope BOTH meets shine.....but this year, I'll be focused on Drake.
And the women's 1500 meters!!

(AND all the other events!! But let's face it, last year's Penn HS star, and this year's indoor star.....will be at Drake, not Penn!!)


Drake has some impressive athletes competing there this year... Many of the pros who'll be at Drake wouldn't necessarily be among the pros at Penn anyway though, since there aren't any USA vs the World hurdling or field events relays at Penn... It's my guess that the USA vs the World fields at Penn won't seem noticeably weaker than in prior years, despite the elite athletes who'll be at Drake.

Drake should be a great meet too, but I'll be at Penn. And I'm extremely curious to know whether aaron's personal shrine to Mary Cain in his home has spilled over into a second room yet!... :wink:


"Personal shrine" to Mary Cain??
If only I had the room.....
and enough museum pieces to FILL said shrine!!

You see, I live (??) in a public housing (cheap rent!) place (It's a studio-size apt. unit!) here in Bellingham called Chuckanut Square Apts.....For those lucky (??) enough to know B'ham, you now know where I reside!

And my space is rather limited!
I own 600 DVD's, 100's of back issues of various magazines (including, of course, T&FN!!), almost 1000 books,and various other "historic" pieces!!

However, now that you've given me the idea.....

my "AaronK's Shrine to the Life and Times of Mary Cain of Bronxville, New York" is now being built, and will be open to the public......FREE of charge!!......

as soon as Mary becomes the first female to run a....

sub-four minute mile!!!

Look forward to your visit!! :P :P
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:59 am

the Jamaicans and all the islanders make penn a true party
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:56 am

has anyone found a preview yet for the 2013 version of the relays?


it may be a bit early for it now

I presume Delano Williams will be the major star, from munro,, his 4X4 leag from 2012 was special
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:15 am

https://www.pennrelaysonline.com/Regist ... ances.aspx


hs acceptances for penn

girls 400 meter hurdles looks really loaded


57.83 400 meter hurdles for lttle last summer

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011 ... r-olympics
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:28 am

heres little 57.44 is hs senior

will be running at penn relays

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?vi ... ships-2012
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:10 am

The list of entrants is for individual events.
I wonder who will run the HS relays!!

For example, will Grosse Point South make record attempts in the longer relays?
Will people like Arroyo, Finn, Baxter, and Frazier......all NOT in the individual events....run in relays?

Missing in the PV's are Murphree, the 17-8 guy, and from the girl's, missing are the 3 highest vaulters this year (Rhodes, Taylor, and Merritt).

Nonetheless, have NO doubt Penn will surprise and delight!!

Speaking of "missing" athletes....and not just from Penn.....haven't seen Margaret Ewen (54-1 SP indoors) anywhere outdoors yet.
Or Haley Crouser.
Or Ed Cheserek!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:56 am

cherserek will do the dmr and the 4x4

doubt grosse point south runs at penn

bet Bronxville runs either dmr or 4x4

fayfetteville Manlius ran 4X8 last year and had gheir hrads handed o them by a jamacain team
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:03 pm

serra and poly will be there from California

updates from Africa and the caribean will be added later

I see Nevada has centennial too
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:08 pm

cyre virgo will be their too #2 usa hj and is a beast
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:37 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5q41TlFXew

I suppose yhis Jamaican girl will be doing 400 meter h at penn too
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:01 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5grGsL2lfug

heres little at Barcelona

a chance to redeme her self at penn at end of month
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:31 am

What a farce that Arkansas started their own meet in the same weekend.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:12 am

long beach poly has a girl with some pedigree running 400 metere hurdleslooks like she'd be better there than 100h

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3WAKWAhV8
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:00 am

Why do these two videos lead you to conclude that she would be better at 400h than 100h? True, the fall might have prevented her from winning or at least being a close second in a time of 56.X, but that 100h race was pretty smooth.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby fourjz » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:37 am

az2004 wrote:serra and poly will be there from California

updates from Africa and the caribean will be added later

I see Nevada has centennial too


Chaminade from So Calif. too. 8-)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby fourjz » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:41 am

JumboElliott wrote:What a farce that Arkansas started their own meet in the same weekend.


That was done on purpose because some colleges are opting out of Penn Relays "because we

can't get anything done at Penn."That's the one of a few excuses being used now to say no to

Penn Relays.Other schools will be at the Arkansas meet using the same excuse. :? :(
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:11 am

If major schools are opting to stay away from the Penn Relays I'm guessing it's because they're no longer finding it to be the great recruiting tool it once was. Although I'm not sure what would have changed in that department, unless it's more efficient recruiting networks that are signing up the bulk of the worthwhile talent before they even have a chance to be wooed at Penn.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:01 am

has anyone seen the list ofwho is nto comig to penn

I've tried the registration status, but it's a bit early to make a judgment

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Registratio ... tatus.aspx

hs status for the bigger events is up, but colleges is early

I see long beach poly and major jamaicaan are therte. and serra

so unless dave Johnson makes a statement, I think it's premature

amd walt murnpy preview should tell us whos here and who isnt
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:09 am

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/teams.aspx


this is the list I have at the penn site
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:11 am

gh wrote:If major schools are opting to stay away from the Penn Relays I'm guessing it's because they're no longer finding it to be the great recruiting tool it once was. Although I'm not sure what would have changed in that department, unless it's more efficient recruiting networks that are signing up the bulk of the worthwhile talent before they even have a chance to be wooed at Penn.

It's almost as if the participants are going out of their way to destroy track and field in this country.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:15 am

I foubd clicking on school I get info

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/team.aspx?s=9712
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Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:24 am

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:29 am

az2004 wrote:long beach poly has a girl with some pedigree running 400 metere hurdleslooks like she'd be better there than 100h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3WAKWAhV8

Mark Crear's daughter, didn't realize that. Now a junior, looks like she transferred to Poly from Maranatha (Pasadena), where she ran 14.09/42.46 as a soph. But I could find no marks for this season, not even a relay leg, so I'm wondering where she is timewise, and if she'll be performing some relay duties as well here at Penn, and possibly enhance Poly's chances against some strong Jamaican competition?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:38 am

JumboElliott wrote:
gh wrote:If major schools are opting to stay away from the Penn Relays I'm guessing it's because they're no longer finding it to be the great recruiting tool it once was. Although I'm not sure what would have changed in that department, unless it's more efficient recruiting networks that are signing up the bulk of the worthwhile talent before they even have a chance to be wooed at Penn.

It's almost as if the participants are going out of their way to destroy track and field in this country.


I take the opposite tack: the more schools that are somewhere other than Penn the better it is for track in this country. The sport was never healthier than when Penn, Drake & Mt. SAC were all on the same weekend and were about equal in stature.

Those who believe it's not good for the sport to have NCAA/USATF in Eugene so often certainly understand that line of thinking.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:49 am

I am told girls 400 meter hurdles is loaded, and it might take 56 to win with all the talwnt in it
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby fourjz » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:40 am

gh wrote:If major schools are opting to stay away from the Penn Relays I'm guessing it's because they're no longer finding it to be the great recruiting tool it once was. Although I'm not sure what would have changed in that department, unless it's more efficient recruiting networks that are signing up the bulk of the worthwhile talent before they even have a chance to be wooed at Penn.


Could be.Have'nt heard that one from coaches.But have heard from more than a few top programs about the lame excuse in my opinion of "can't get any thing done" at Penn. :wink:
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby fourjz » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:45 am

gktrack wrote:
az2004 wrote:long beach poly has a girl with some pedigree running 400 metere hurdleslooks like she'd be better there than 100h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3WAKWAhV8

Mark Crear's daughter, didn't realize that. Now a junior, looks like she transferred to Poly from Maranatha (Pasadena), where she ran 14.09/42.46 as a soph. But I could find no marks for this season, not even a relay leg, so I'm wondering where she is timewise, and if she'll be performing some relay duties as well here at Penn, and possibly enhance Poly's chances against some strong Jamaican competition?


She got hurt,maybe late last year,or in January.Has'nt been running at all.Entered in Mt.SAC

for the 20th though.We'll see.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:58 pm

gh wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:It's almost as if the participants are going out of their way to destroy track and field in this country.


I take the opposite tack: the more schools that are somewhere other than Penn the better it is for track in this country. The sport was never healthier than when Penn, Drake & Mt. SAC were all on the same weekend and were about equal in stature.

Those who believe it's not good for the sport to have NCAA/USATF in Eugene so often certainly understand that line of thinking.

I don't think creating a smaller meet is all that beneficial. The best thing would be to establish major annual meets that are staples of the sporting calendar that can actually draw a TV audience. A perfect example of this is the Indy 500, which is a good equivalent because IndyCar vastly outperforms its niche in that one race. Track has a hard enough time getting on TV as it is, so I don't see why so many domestic meets need to be right around the same time.

I think wanting to have USATF/NCAA at different places every year is a different story.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:27 pm

I didn't say make any meet smaller. Penn obviously has no trouble filling its fields. Nor will they should "many" teams go elsewhere.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:27 pm

I would rather have Penn/Drake have the best quality possible at the top. Every college team that goes to Arkansas is cutting that off and those slots at Penn are going to be be filled with less competitive schools.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:47 pm

And the largely Jamaican crowd won't care one whit.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:40 pm

gh wrote:And the largely Jamaican crowd won't care one whit.


Maybe that applies to Saturday.. But the college events that are on Thursday and Friday aren't in front of a "largely Jamaican" crowd, and many of the diehards that go those days want to see top collegiate teams perform... Even if the Saturday crowd is 50% Jamaican, there are still plenty of us who'd like to see the best college teams competing against each other, and I think the Saturday Jamaican crowd probably appreciates it more when UTech can beat up on the best US collegiate teams like they did last year....

At least Penn still has major out of area schools like Texas A&M, LSU, Florida State, Michigan, Auburn, Stanford, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, Miami, Mississippi State, and Oregon this year... A few of the major teams who competed last year but seem conspicuously absent this year include Illinois, UCF, Texas Tech, TCU, Texas, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.... :(
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jamboy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:03 pm

On the Saturday, the crown is about 80% pro Jamaican.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:00 pm

Blues wrote:
gh wrote: A few of the major teams who competed last year but seem conspicuously absent this year include Illinois, Texas Tech, TCU, Texas, and Oklahoma....


These are generally schools that I think are more naturally 'Drake' schools (Wisconsin goes there more often than to Penn).

Also, some focus on MtSAC, and Penn is not really a great venue for distance races, which do not get as much focus as other events (hence distance runners go to Stanford, and since they are not going to do two hard, hard races, will only do Stanford.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:11 pm

az2004 wrote:https://www.pennrelaysonline.com/Registration/HSAcceptances.aspx

hs acceptances for penn

are these in order of entry seed/performance?
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