Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold


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Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby GDAWG » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:41 am

First it was Marquise Goodwin (although that was expected) now it may be Lawrence Okoye:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/others ... lanta.html
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:37 pm

I expect Jacko Gill will be invited to NFL tryouts after 2016.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby rainy.here » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:16 am

They referenced good Combine scores, which I couldn't find with a couple minutes searching. Anyone find/see them?
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby GDAWG » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:59 am

rainy.here wrote:They referenced good Combine scores, which I couldn't find with a couple minutes searching. Anyone find/see them?


He did not attend the NFL Combine. The NFL holds regional combines, and he said that he attended one of those.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby marknhj » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:20 am

Doesn't it help to have actually played the game before? I always look at situations like this with a large grain of salt; initially at least.
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Postby batonless relay » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:03 am

marknhj wrote:Doesn't it help to have actually played the game before?

Usually, but there are a few really talented guys who have been succesful playing football without much experience. I don't think Jimmy Graham, NO Saints TE, played more than one year of college before going pro and I'm not sure if he had any high school football experience. (but he was American so the nuances of the game, even if unfamiliar, weren't completely foreign). A few other tight ends have had very little experience (Gates). But since we're talking about Okoye, there is another athlete who was an Okoye trailblazer.

Christian Okoye
Okoye was born in Enugu, Nigeria and did not play American football until 1984, when he joined the squad at California's Azusa Pacific University. He excelled in track & field, winning seven college titles in the shotput, discus, and hammer throw. The first time he attended an American football game he thought the game was boring.[1]
After the Nigerian government failed to select Okoye for the Olympics, he sought something else to do besides track & field and went out for American football. Initially, Okoye did not enjoy the roughness of football and thought about quitting but friends convinced him to continue playing.[1] His track speed (40-yard dash in 4.40 seconds and about 10.50 seconds in the 100 meters) was unusual for someone his size (6'1" and 260 lb), and this rare combination of talents led to his selection in the second round of the 1987 NFL Draft by the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby gh » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:10 am

Not that I've ever played/coached the position, but I'm guessing somebody with monster size/strength/speed can relatively quickly be made into a situational pass rusher of quality. So long as they like pain, that is.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby rainy.here » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:40 am

GDAWG wrote:
rainy.here wrote:They referenced good Combine scores, which I couldn't find with a couple minutes searching. Anyone find/see them?


He did not attend the NFL Combine. The NFL holds regional combines, and he said that he attended one of those.


I know - otherwise it would have been easy to find. :)
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby kamikaze7 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:33 pm

Given his physical attributes and the fact that he excelled at rugby and track, he has a very good chance of succeeding.

Christain Okoye ended up being one of the best running backs of the mid 1980s despite having never played football until he was in his 20s
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby Blues » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:47 pm

rainy.here wrote:
GDAWG wrote:
rainy.here wrote:They referenced good Combine scores, which I couldn't find with a couple minutes searching. Anyone find/see them?


He did not attend the NFL Combine. The NFL holds regional combines, and he said that he attended one of those.


I know - otherwise it would have been easy to find. :)


He's supposed to be participating in the NFL Super Regional Combine this weekend (April 6-7) in Dallas. The Super Regional is by invitation only, and includes athletes who were standouts in the various Regional Combines... NFL.COM and NFL Network are both covering the Super Regional Combine, so maybe more information will be available regarding Okoye's Combine performance in Dallas.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby GDAWG » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:09 pm

The Jets have a Tight End named Hayden Smith who's first real football experience was last year when he was activated from the Jets practice squad.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby Blues » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:07 am

Atlanta Regional Combine results for Lawrence Okoye, as posted on his twitter page. (There was no bench press at the regional combine.)

https://twitter.com/LawrenceOkoye1/stat ... 92/photo/1

Okoye's Atlanta Regional Combine numbers:
40yd 4.78
Vertical Jump 35 inches
R-short shuttle 4.48
L-short shuttle 4.38
Broad Jump 125 inches
10yd split 1.71
20yd split 2.64

Edit- If you want to see how his marks compare to the defensive ends who were invited to the official NFL Scouting Combine, click the link below, and then click on the position (POS) column header. Results of the athletes who were invited to the official NFL Combine this year will then be grouped by position. Then scroll down to the defensive ends group (DE).

http://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombine ... =&college=
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby batonless relay » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:27 am

Whoever designed the NFL combine results must have been on the consulting committee for the IAAF results site.

Anyway, that is RIDICULOUS for a 6'6, 306lb man. 35" vertical! 4.78 40yd (4.88 the first time!)
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby gh » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:35 am

the big vertical for somebody his height/weight isn't at all ridiculous. Back in the day I trained with no end of throwers who had serious hops. Amazing what a lot of heavy squats do for you in that department.

There was a memorable incident in a hotel in Europe in the early '70s when some touring athletes were wondering about standing under something or other and wondering if anybody could touch it. Rey Brown, who was 6-4 and one of the best high jumpers in the world, couldn't do it. Putter Al Feuerbach, who was 6-1 and somewhere in the 250-275 range at the time, had no trouble.
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Postby Blues » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:05 am

Obviously he lacks knowledge of the game, but comparing Okoye's drills marks in the regional combine to the marks of the 21 defensive ends who were invited to, and performed at, the 2013 NFL Scouting Combine, his ranking in each event out of the 22 defensive ends would have been:

40 yards - Tied for 8th
Vertical jump - Tied for 3rd
Broad Jump - 3rd
Short Shuttle - 8th (using the average of his right and left shuttle times)

(Assuming that I calculated correctly)

It'll be interesting to see how many bench press reps (225 lbs) he'll be able to do...
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby GDAWG » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:11 pm

His results:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/04/07/lawrenc ... first-day/

Lawrence Okoye, DE (6-foot-5 3/8, 304 pounds) — An Olympic discus thrower, Okoye reportedly turned down an offer to attend Oxford University to try out for the NFL. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.88 and 4.78 seconds. He performed the short shuttle in 4.38 seconds, had a 10-foot-5 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical jump. His arms were measured to be 35 inches long.

It looked like from the group that worked out Sunday, about half will be given the opportunity to sign with a team as a free agent and attend training camp. Okoye looked like he could be drafted. He was unbelievably active and incredibly explosive in drills. It was a real, first-class show.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby leoesharkey » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:48 pm

Discus throwers do a lot of heavy benchpressing, he is prob in the 225-230kg 1RM level so what might that be at 102.5kg for reps?
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:14 am

leoesharkey wrote:Discus throwers do a lot of heavy benchpressing, he is prob in the 225-230kg 1RM level so what might that be at 102.5kg for reps?

I would be very surprised if a guy who can bench 500+ lbs couldn't do a minimum of 28 reps but I think Okoye is more likely to achieve 35 or more. (Tommy Bohinnon, a RB from Wake Forest 6'1", 246, 35" VJ, 119" BJ...repped 36 times in 2013.) For Okoye's sake, let's hope that he is above 35 and below 42. Why? Because of all of the men who have benched 42 reps or more, none have been anything more than bench players - and that's if they made the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-7663872

-Tank Tyler(notes) (North Carolina State, 2007) and Isaac Sopoaga(notes) (Hawaii, 2004), Bench Press Reps: 42
-Scott Young(notes) (BYU, 2005), Bench Press Reps: 43
-Brodrick Bunkley(notes) (Florida State, 2006), Bench Press Reps: 44
-Mitch Petrus(notes) (Arkansas, 2010), Mike Kudla (Ohio State, 2006) and Leif Larsen (UTEP, 2000), Bench Press Reps: 45
-Justin Ernest (Eastern Kentucky, 1999), Bench Press Reps: 51
...never made it as player in the NFL.
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:47 am

Two recent vids/interviews with Okoye that also include a little bit of workout footage, regarding his pursuit of a career in the NFL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJdODBYTns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcMwjcii_bk
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby GDAWG » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:47 pm

Signed with San Francisco 49ers today.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/ ... 49ers.html
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby norunner » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:22 am

So how many T&F talents got drafted this year? I read about Goodwin and Margus Hunt, any others?
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Re: Lawrence Okoye puts athletics on hold

Postby berkeley » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:45 am

gh wrote:Not that I've ever played/coached the position, but I'm guessing somebody with monster size/strength/speed can relatively quickly be made into a situational pass rusher of quality. So long as they like pain, that is.

In particular, pain that is likely to increase over a lifetime, ending in an early demise.
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