Oscar Pistorius suffers memory lapse


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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby gh » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:04 am

it obviously won't change anybody's mind on anything, but for an insightful look into the gun culture, read the linked book review (or the whole book, if you''re of a mind).

<<...Guns, like abortion, are seen by some as a life-or-death issue that merits careful regulation, and by others as a matter of personal freedom and constitutional right. Each camp makes little attempt to understand the other, much less to compromise.

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Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Gun ... z2Mga4yBsY
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby jeremyp » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:47 am

O.P. may be paranoid but he definitely is not Schizophrenic! No Schizophrenic could advance to such a high level of competitive sportsmanship and public view and be in a hallucinatory or delusional (both symptoms of Schizophrenia) state. Perhaps the use of the word is being confused with the medias use of the word to mean "dual personality" which Schizophrenia is not.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Tuariki » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:07 pm

Paranoia? Schizophrenia? both admittedly debatable in terms of traits for Pistorius.

But the trait of "shame". Pistorius' latest approach to the Court shows the guy has no shame at all. If his killing of Reeva was truly an act of mistaken identity and he was truly remorseful the guy would not be challenging his bail conditions and demanding his passports be returned so he can travel overseas.

He truly is a low life.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Pego » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:31 pm

Tuariki wrote:He truly is a low life.


Yes.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:33 pm

As above ^^^
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby gh » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:38 pm

The former lead detective has resigned

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/afr ... ?hpt=hp_t1
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:49 pm

Apparently he's on the verge of suicide

Close friend Mike Azzie, who Pistorius refers to as Uncle Mike, said the sportsman was a "broken man" after he was tasked with selling his racehorses to raise money to pay for spiralling legal fees.
:cry: :cry:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03 ... _hp_ref=uk
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Flumpy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:59 am

Selling his racehorse!!! :shock:

I hate it when that happens. :P
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Daisy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:42 pm

MrBowie would feel his pain.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:46 pm

There was an hour long documentary on BBC tonight but i forgot to watch

I'll catch up tomorrow and report back
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Tuariki » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:46 pm

Flumpy wrote:Selling his racehorse!!! :shock:

I hate it when that happens. :P

He definitely should sell it before he mistakes it for an ass and shoots it.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:08 am

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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:32 am

Where exactly would he go? What meet would want that hot potato? Maybe they could get Tim Danielson in a veterans race as an encore.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:43 am

Conor Dary wrote:Where exactly would he go?


Somewhere without an extradition treaty !!

Who gives a potential murder their passport ?!!
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:55 am

mump boy wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:Where exactly would he go?


Somewhere without an extradition treaty !!

Who gives a potential murder their passport ?!!


But they have to have a meet. But you are right, the guy has been charged with murder, and yet, the courts are saying, go run in Zurich, or maybe even Pre! I could see gh announcing that one. "In lane 2 with the ball and chain...."
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:07 am

Now he is considering the WC in Moscow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/disability-sport/21967852

I didn't see a link on front page.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby kuha » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:31 am

This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Daisy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:34 am

kuha wrote:This is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field.

Unfortunately it's publicity that T&F would not otherwise get.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:40 am

kuha wrote:This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.


Yes, for awhile cycling had overtaken track for the reputation as the dirtiest sport. (And since its fan base is about .00001% that is easy for sport pundits.) But now we have OP.

Imagine if OJ was still playing football while on trial....

    The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), which is the body responsible for the World Championships, told BBC Sport he would be "free to run" in Moscow in August on the "basis of the 'innocent until proven guilty' principle".

But the Brits have lost interest....

    However, Nova, who organise the Manchester City Games, to be held on 25 May and which Pistorius pulled out of, said there were "no plans to invite him over".
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Pego » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:41 am

kuha wrote:This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.


Last week a guy in central Wisconsin shot his girlfriend to death. Yes, you guessed it, he mistook her for burglars. What a wonderful inspiration Oscar Pistorius is.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:52 am

Pego wrote:
kuha wrote:This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.


Last week a guy in central Wisconsin shot his girlfriend to death. Yes, you guessed it, he mistook her for burglars. What a wonderful inspiration Oscar Pistorius is.


Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Pego » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:15 am

Conor Dary wrote:
Pego wrote:
kuha wrote:This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.


Last week a guy in central Wisconsin shot his girlfriend to death. Yes, you guessed it, he mistook her for burglars. What a wonderful inspiration Oscar Pistorius is.


Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.


I promise to duly report a follow-up.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mump boy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:51 am

Pego wrote:
kuha wrote:This whole thing does seem a bit insane. And this is the guy currently soaking up a huge portion of the media's (very limited) attention to track and field. What a gift to the world.


Last week a guy in central Wisconsin shot his girlfriend to death. Yes, you guessed it, he mistook her for burglars. What a wonderful inspiration Oscar Pistorius is.


I hope he's ou on bail with his passport in his possession, just in case he wants to go on his hols or something :roll:
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Tuariki » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:41 pm

Conor Dary wrote:Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.

Sheriff Andy Taylor would never have applied for bail for Opie, even if Opie had shot a Mayberry skunk.
I hope that no meet promoter would sink so low as to fall to the temptation of the dollar by inviting Pistorious to compete.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby kuha » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:35 pm

The old Hollywood saying is that there's no such thing as "bad press." I truly hope that's not right.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby gh » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:36 am

Tuariki wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.

Sheriff Andy Taylor would never have applied for bail for Opie, even if Opie had shot a Mayberry skunk.
I hope that no meet promoter would sink so low as to fall to the temptation of the dollar by inviting Pistorious to compete.


wow! talk about trial by press! Give the poor bastard his day in court before you condemn him to Devil's Island. (but yes, of course, I think he's probably guilty: fortunately, legal systems don't work on "I think probably" thoughts of people with no first-hand knowledge of the evidence)
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Flumpy » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:41 am

There's only one 'poor bastard' in this case and it's not OP.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Pego » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:57 am

gh wrote:
Tuariki wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.

Sheriff Andy Taylor would never have applied for bail for Opie, even if Opie had shot a Mayberry skunk.
I hope that no meet promoter would sink so low as to fall to the temptation of the dollar by inviting Pistorious to compete.


wow! talk about trial by press! Give the poor bastard his day in court before you condemn him to Devil's Island. (but yes, of course, I think he's probably guilty: fortunately, legal systems don't work on "I think probably" thoughts of people with no first-hand knowledge of the evidence)


I have never seen a suspect in a capital case to be given this degree of pre-trial latitude.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby Tuariki » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:01 am

gh wrote:
Tuariki wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:Now, Pego, in all fairness, I don't know if we can blame OP (pronounced Opie!) for that, unless he shot her through a closed bathroom door. "Someone is stealing my dental floss!" Americans shooting neighbors, friends, relatives, etc. thinking---or perhaps hoping---they were a burglar has been a regular constant in this country for quite a while.

Sheriff Andy Taylor would never have applied for bail for Opie, even if Opie had shot a Mayberry skunk.
I hope that no meet promoter would sink so low as to fall to the temptation of the dollar by inviting Pistorious to compete.


wow! talk about trial by press! Give the poor bastard his day in court before you condemn him to Devil's Island. (but yes, of course, I think he's probably guilty: fortunately, legal systems don't work on "I think probably" thoughts of people with no first-hand knowledge of the evidence)

It is not about trial by press. Pistorious has already admitted he killed Steenkamp. Even if you accept his story as to why he did what he did, as far as I am concerned he should still go to prison for a long time.
And I hope meet promoters don't invite him to compete. As much as the likes of Ostapchuk turn my stomach I would prefer to have her invited rather than Pistorious.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:10 pm

gh wrote:wow! talk about trial by press! Give the poor bastard his day in court before you condemn him to Devil's Island.


There won't be a day in court. Once he sets foot in a country that has no extradition treaty with SA, he's not going back to face trial.
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Oscar Pistorius suffers memory lapse

Postby Tuariki » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:43 pm

Oscar suffers convenient memory lapse

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=10892393

The early onset of the dementia affecting Oscar Pistorius has the South African prosecutor seeking the assistance of the Apple geeks in California to unlock Oscar's i-phones. The shock of what happened had an immediate and catastrophic effect on his ability to remember the 4 digit code that could conceivably prove Oscar's innocence - or his guilt perhaps.

One good thing I have learned from this story is that it appears my granddaughters can't easily hack their way into my phone and use it to upload crap onto their Facebook pages.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius suffers memory lapse

Postby Pego » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:02 am

Tuariki wrote:Oscar suffers convenient memory lapse

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/ar ... d=10892393

The early onset of the dementia affecting Oscar Pistorius has the South African prosecutor seeking the assistance of the Apple geeks in California to unlock Oscar's i-phones. The shock of what happened had an immediate and catastrophic effect on his ability to remember the 4 digit code that could conceivably prove Oscar's innocence - or his guilt perhaps.

One good thing I have learned from this story is that it appears my granddaughters can't easily hack their way into my phone and use it to upload crap onto their Facebook pages.


You see, poor Oscar was so overcome by grief that he lost memory of all those passwords. Do you understand now? The poor, persecuted, innocent baby, our Oscar.
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Re: Inspector Clouseau - now - The debate on Oscar Pistorius

Postby mal » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:39 am

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wow! talk about trial by press! Give the poor bastard his day in court before you condemn him to Devil's Island. (but yes, of course, I think he's probably guilty: fortunately, legal systems don't work on "I think probably" thoughts of people with no first-hand knowledge of the evidence)[/quote]


Of course he's guilty. They are just determining what he's guilty of. He has not denied he shot her. Frankly, it really doesn't matter to me what reasons he had. Unfortunately it seems that legal proceedings are competitions between lawyers for the defense and the prosecution. However the young lady was killed when he admitted he fired on her through a locked door.

I tend to look at that, rather than the side show. His excuses are immaterial. There can be no justification for his actions.
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