Tiger wins [not!]


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Tiger wins [not!]

Postby Rye Catcher » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:45 pm

Need I say more?
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Conor Dary » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:52 pm

3 wins this year....
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby SQUACKEE » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:47 am

If he sux in the next major, he will have the rep of the guy who cant win the big one. 8-)
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Rye Catcher » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:37 am

He really played like the Tiger of old. Good for him.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Conor Dary » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:48 am

3 wins in last 7 starts.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby odelltrclan » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:18 am

He's back!
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby jeremyp » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:53 am

Wow! This headline appears almost as frequently as: "Bolt loses."
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby gh » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:22 pm

And now he's dating Lindsay Vonn. I'm sure there's no end of low-end humor to come with that announcement.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby tandfman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:00 am

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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Marlow » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:28 am

As with a Kardashian romance, there'll be short shelf-life on this puppy. Their worlds are so far apart - it'll be 'fun' while it lasts.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Per Andersen » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:55 am

It will be interesting to see how Tiger deals with a strong, independent, aggressive, highly competitive woman who is a famous, marvelous athlete in her own right. She has no intention in playing second fiddle in that relationship.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Conor Dary » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:24 am

Per Andersen wrote:It will be interesting to see how Tiger deals with a strong, independent, aggressive, highly competitive woman who is a famous, marvelous athlete in her own right. She has no intention in playing second fiddle in that relationship.


Tiger could make her his new caddie. That would settle things.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby tandfman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:15 pm

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Re: Tiger wins

Postby tandfman » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:19 am

Nice, respectful piece about Woods and Vonn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/15/sport ... r-now.html
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Rye Catcher » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:21 pm

tandfman wrote:Nice, respectful piece about Woods and Vonn.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/15/sport ... r-now.html


She appears to have a good level head on her shoulders. Hope things work out well for them. Tiger had a miserable 3rd round today and is out of contention, so maybe they can do a little partying tonight.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby gh » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:19 pm

he's lurking again!
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:57 pm

gh wrote:he's lurking again!


We'll see. He hasn't recently been able to make that one big shot....whether on the green or to the green...in recent majors that would seem to put him over the top.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby bambam » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:17 am

Mickelson's final round today to win the Open Championship ranks among the greatest ever final rounds - up with Johnny Miller's 63 at Oakmont in 1973 or Arnold Palmer's 65 at Cherry Hills in 1960.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:53 am

Whatever strategy Tiger used to win TPC at Sawgrass (first time in 11 years), he needs to reopen that playbook. Saturday used to be his breakaway day. Now he plays the weekend as if his gas tank has run dry. Fortunately this week it wasn't as bad (bad, as in McIlroy's first 2 days) as I thought it would turn out.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby az2004 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:07 am

nice to see the sport today in a good light, as to tiger and vonn, I do wonder how long it will last and whether they get thru sochi together
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby bambam » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:50 am

CookyMonzta wrote:Whatever strategy Tiger used to win TPC at Sawgrass (first time in 11 years), he needs to reopen that playbook. Saturday used to be his breakaway day. Now he plays the weekend as if his gas tank has run dry. Fortunately this week it wasn't as bad (bad, as in McIlroy's first 2 days) as I thought it would turn out.


If you look closely at Tiger he's not really back to playing like he used to. I know he won 4 times this year but they are all on courses he has won on multiple times - Torrey Pines, Bay Hill, etc. He picks and chooses his courses carefully, and plays on big, long, wide-open courses where his inability to drive the ball accurately is not as much as a liability. He'll never play Harbour Town, or Westchester (if it was still on Tour), and doesn't do well at places like Riviera, and the way most majors are set up. The most amazing thing to me about Tiger's current game is how "badly" he plays and yet he still scores pretty darn good and is always in the hunt. But he hits a lot of bad shots out there - way more than the Tiger of old.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby AFTERBURNER » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:01 pm

I hope I'm wrong but I think that Tiger will NEVER win another major.

However, I'm quite confidant that he will surpass the PGA all-time wins record of 82 victories by Sam Snead.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby odelltrclan » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:09 pm

AFTERBURNER wrote:I hope I'm wrong but I think that Tiger will NEVER win another major.

However, I'm quite confidant that he will surpass the PGA all-time wins record of 82 victories by Sam Snead.


Mickelson is 43 and still winning majors (darn near 2 in a row) so there is still a lot of time left for Tiger.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:13 pm

odelltrclan wrote:
AFTERBURNER wrote:I hope I'm wrong but I think that Tiger will NEVER win another major.

However, I'm quite confidant that he will surpass the PGA all-time wins record of 82 victories by Sam Snead.


Mickelson is 43 and still winning majors (darn near 2 in a row) so there is still a lot of time left for Tiger.


Sometimes I think the declarative in ALL CAPS guarantees the opposite. :lol:
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:09 pm

AFTERBURNER wrote:I hope I'm wrong but I think that Tiger will NEVER win another major.

However, I'm quite confidant that he will surpass the PGA all-time wins record of 82 victories by Sam Snead.

Tiger has plenty of time to win his 19th major. Jack's last major came at 46, at the 1986 Masters. 12 years later, in the final round, he was within a couple of strokes of winning his 7th jacket. In 2009, Tom Watson, 7 weeks away from his 60th birthday, putted his way into a playoff at the Open, with the possibility of a 6th Claret jug 26 years after his 5th, before losing to Stewart Cink.

If his elbow, his neck and especially his knee (where his slump started, following his ACL injury at the 2008 U.S. Open) don't blow up again, Tiger could have perhaps as long as a decade and a half to catch Jack for the most career majors. He managed to find the missing piece to win at Sawgrass, after 12 years (and I still remember that birdie on that island hole, putting a few inches from the edge where the ball landed); maybe he'll win one of the big 4 when we least expect it.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby bambam » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:10 am

AFTERBURNER wrote:I hope I'm wrong but I think that Tiger will NEVER win another major.

However, I'm quite confidant that he will surpass the PGA all-time wins record of 82 victories by Sam Snead.


I think Tiger will/can still win majors, but I no longer think he will get to 18. As to age, Tiger is an old 37 - he's been playing at a high level since his early teens, and has had 4 knee operations on his left knee, with an ACL recon and microfracture surgery. It is highly likely he has arthritis now in that knee, and I suspect that may be the rate-limiting factor for his future career.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby Per Andersen » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:51 pm

bambam wrote:
I think Tiger will/can still win majors, but I no longer think he will get to 18. As to age, Tiger is an old 37 - he's been playing at a high level since his early teens, and has had 4 knee operations on his left knee, with an ACL recon and microfracture surgery. It is highly likely he has arthritis now in that knee, and I suspect that may be the rate-limiting factor for his future career.

Very interesting! Makes perfect sense (as always)

Do you have a comment about Michelson's use of the 3 wood as driver at Muirfield? I understand he averaged 275 yards with it.
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Re: Tiger wins

Postby bambam » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:50 am

Per Andersen wrote:Do you have a comment about Michelson's use of the 3 wood as driver at Muirfield? I understand he averaged 275 yards with it.


Phil is really creative at changing his bag and clubs around to suit the course. One commentator laughed when he called it a 3-wood. It was more like a 2-wood, with a loft between a driver and 3-wood - nobody actually makes 2-woods (brassies) anymore. The loft was probably about 12-13 degrees (most tour drivers are between 7-10 and most 3-woods about 16). I think he actually could hit it much more than 275 at Muirfield with no wind - because the ball was rolling 50-60 yards, probably more like 325 on those dry, fast fairways.
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Re: Tiger wins [not!]

Postby bambam » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:59 am

One other thing, CookyMontza, about Tiger having plenty of time to win majors. People do win majors after age 40 - but not all that many. Hogan won 3 in 1953 when he was 41 years old. Nicklaus won one in 1980 - at 40 and one in 1986 at age 46. Other than that, I am not certain anyone has won more than one major after age 40. Tiger is only 37 but as stated, I think he's an old 37, and he better get a move on if he wants to get to 18. His window is getting much smaller.

The sport is obviously not nearly as athletic an endeavor as football, basketball, track, but your body does wear down a bit as we age. You're not as flexible. Arthritic joints creep in. It gets harder. Golfers at the Tour level often hit 500 balls a day on the practice tee - that's 10-12 buckets of balls at the range - try doing that and see how your back feels the next morning. Then keep doing it again the next day, and the next, ...

The other thing that deteriorates as you age is something not athletic at all, which is putting. I think Tiger is the greatest putter I've ever seen, including Crenshaw, who was off the charts. From 2000-2004 Tiger's putting was further off the charts. I commented after 2000-2001 that he could never duplicate what he had just done because nobody could keep putting that well. And he no longer putts that well, although he's still pretty damn good - he did OK in those tourneys he won earlier this spring, but did not putt well at Muirfield. Hogan said it best, referring to the psychological pressure of putting, "After a while, that drip of water wears a hole thru the rock."
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