Gold By Record Men


Forum devoted to track & field items of an historical nature.

Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:01 am

Happy birthday today (Tuesday) to two Olympic champions. Both people won one Olympic gold medal.

The senior athlete was born 106 years ago today, while the junior athlete turns 68 years today.

Born on a Monday, the junior athlete won the Olympic gold medal on a Monday.

Our senior athlete died at the age of 97.

One of these athletes competed in a field event, while the other was a runner.

A world record holder, the junior athlete was TFN "Athlete of the Year".

At 23 years of age, the junior athlete won Olympic gold. The senior athlete was only 21 when winning Olympic gold.

Athlete two (junior) broke the world record twice and had three children. Athlete one (senior) had the gold medal come with a new world record.

Forty years separate the two athletes' Olympic Games in which they won gold medals.

Not only a gold medal, but the junior athlete also has an Olympic silver medal and won the Sullivan Award 46 years ago.

Don't worry about the hurdles when wondering about our runner.

Good luck with these two Olympic champions. One is fairly easy to get, while the other may take some time.
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:03 am

Randy Matson is the "junior".
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:47 am

Happy 68th birthday today to Randy Matson and congratulations dukehjsteve. Some believe Randy was just about the best shot putter ever and it would be difficult to argue against that. He was a great athlete and played basketball and football very well. Randy was only 19 years old when he took the silver medal at the Tokyo Olympics.

Now, who is the "senior" athlete? This is not an easy one, but there is a clue in the title.
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby rhymans » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:36 am

I was genuinely perplexed by this, so looked it up (and won't reveal the answer), but another clue might be in order here.
rhymans
 
Posts: 670
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:48 am

You're probably right, rhymans. Here is some additional help. This athlete had a "famous" brother (Bil) who was a puppeteer (did "Sound of Music" and other films). Our gold medalist didn't earn his gold medal without some major help.

He shares the same first name as the Olympic gold medalist in the hurdles from the next Olympic Games. If you take away the first and the last letters of his last name, you will have something that every plant and animal needs for survival.

Our mystery "senior" athlete played the piano very well and attended school in Iowa.

At the time of his death (2004), our birthday athlete was the oldest living American Olympic gold medalist. Who is this person?
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:24 am

Well, at least with these final hints I could research and discover the answer !
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:06 pm

American runner born in 1906, name may have "sun" or "air" as middle three letters, probably competed in 1928 and/or 1932 Games?
Bruce Kritzler
 
Posts: 3130
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby Per Andersen » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:47 pm

So this mystery man was born in 1907 and won gold as a 21 year old in 1928. Thanks to Percy Williams in the 100-200 the only American who won gold in a running event was Ray Barbuti in the 400, but it's not him?
Per Andersen
 
Posts: 3737
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:31 am

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby mcgato » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:48 am

He usually uses the title to give a hint about the initials. So it is something like:

G??? Bair?

And the hint about having the help of others would indicate a relay performer.
mcgato
 
Posts: 1607
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Hoboken

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:49 am

You're on the right "track" mcgato.
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:30 am

If anyone comes up with this answer and says they did not look it up, I will demand that they take a lie detector test ! Too hard ! ( But fun. )
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:18 am

You're almost there. Yes, he was born in 1907 and yes, he did run on the winning relay in 1928. Now, go to the next Olympics (Los Angeles) and figure who won the 110 hurdles. That champion (hurdles, 1932) shares the same first name as our mystery champion.
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dj » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:12 am

DoubleRBar wrote:At the time of his death (2004), our birthday athlete was the oldest living American Olympic gold medalist. Who is this person?


This is the clinching clue. Most people who remember him--as opposed to just knowing of him--met him when he was a T&FN tour member.
dj
 
Posts: 6200
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:31 am

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby bambam » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:09 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:If anyone comes up with this answer and says they did not look it up, I will demand that they take a lie detector test ! Too hard ! ( But fun. )


George Baird - I did not look it up.
bambam
 
Posts: 3848
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Durham, NC

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:30 pm

bambam wrote:
dukehjsteve wrote:If anyone comes up with this answer and says they did not look it up, I will demand that they take a lie detector test ! Too hard ! ( But fun. )


George Baird - I did not look it up.



Due to our collegial fraternization, you are believed !
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby DoubleRBar » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:30 pm

And bambam got him. Yes, it was George Baird who was born 106 years ago last Tuesday. And yes, George joined the Track and Field News Tours a few times. George ran the first leg of the winning four by 400 relay team in Amsterdam (1928). He clocked 48.2 and that team was anchored by Ray Barbuti in 48.8. The second man was Fred Alderman (49.4) and the third man was Emerson Spencer (47.8). Their time of 3:14.2 was a world record in 1928 (the year after Charles Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic). George Baird died at the age of 97.
DoubleRBar
 
Posts: 1114
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:21 am
Location: Mineral City

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby bambam » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:03 pm

The hell with Charles Lindbergh - 1928 was the year after the Babe hit 60 home runs.
bambam
 
Posts: 3848
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Durham, NC

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:53 pm

bambam wrote:The hell with Charles Lindbergh - 1928 was the year after the Babe hit 60 home runs.



little typo there bamster, think you meant 1927.
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby bambam » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:17 am

dukehjsteve wrote:
bambam wrote:The hell with Charles Lindbergh - 1928 was the year after the Babe hit 60 home runs.



little typo there bamster, think you meant 1927.


No typo - I said the year after Babe hit 60 home runs
bambam
 
Posts: 3848
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Durham, NC

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby dukehjsteve » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:14 am

bambam wrote:
dukehjsteve wrote:
bambam wrote:The hell with Charles Lindbergh - 1928 was the year after the Babe hit 60 home runs.



little typo there bamster, think you meant 1927.


No typo - I said the year after Babe hit 60 home runs



Oops ! Sorry !
dukehjsteve
 
Posts: 6057
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Fishers, IN

Re: Gold By Record Men

Postby bambam » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:55 am

dukehjsteve wrote:Oops ! Sorry !


You are forgiven as we are basking in the glow of last nite's win.

How ya' doing today, Dr. Jay???
bambam
 
Posts: 3848
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Durham, NC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Per Andersen and 5 guests