International comparisons - Junior female distance runners


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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:00 am

before cain was zola budd,who ran a 2k wr at 18

elegant runner

here's the video of the race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGSjpUIGbZs
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:03 pm

heres budd 4:06 1500 indoors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZ6qL_kQ7U at age 19
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:17 pm

budd shows she has a kick in moscow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlLlilMkmo8

she has some guts here, one lap to go and voila
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby aaronk » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:43 pm

There's a 5 minute YouTube video (can't produce the link, but search for it!)...a 1992 interview with BOTH Budd and Slaney.....the interview about that "incident"!!
Fascinating!
Slaney still blamed Budd.
Budd refuses to say what she thinks of Mary.
The questioner TRIES to stir controversy...but Budd and Slaney remain as stoic as they can....with frozen smiles.....and pretty much don't play the questioner's game!!
Classic!!
(I'd never seen this before!!)
Look for it!!
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:46 pm

isaw that 5 minute interview it was in australia

here;s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny633tEuZJc

14:48 5k at 19 which is still 13 all time jynior
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:01 pm

aronnk the interview you saw was this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0otatX6Wg

if cain is decker or budd, the interview sways me more towards budd as a person

oddly budd ran or was supposed to run comardes marathon, and salazar won the 1994 comrades race

that might have been albertos best distance
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:26 pm

budd on doing comrades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvNhLtgxE4o

the distance 30k for marathon and 60k for comrades is when the race starts

cain is a miler, budd 3k/5k, so to each their specialty

nice to see budd mention elena meyer

the golden age of south african track

heres the start of 2012 com rades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKmSDdaXclc
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm

and the finish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEWuBasQUBc

90k is a long way, and hurts
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:44 pm

and at 18 zola budd is wolrd xc champ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePkEbMY2Ta0

didn't kno w elana meyer and budd were the same age
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby aaronk » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:08 pm

Great memories of the best Budd years!!
As a teen, there was none better....at least in the women's department!!
(The African Revolution was yet to occur then!!)

Times of 3:59.96, 4:17.57, 5:33.15, 8:28.83, and 14:48.07.
Times that ANY female would be happy with....in their CAREER!!

But what set Budd apart.....
and the reason I say she was then better than Mary Cain is right now....
is WHO she ran against!!

She didn't shy away from the real HUGE international stars of the mid-80's....
Slaney, Kristiansen, Puica, Murray, Sly et al!!
She ran in the BIG races....and WON...in record times!!

Cain is FANTASTIC.....but she has yet to race the SUPERSTARS of her events.
Dibaba IS a superstar....but she's the ONLY one Cain has run in the same race with.....so far!!

Of course, Mary is just getting started in her "pro" career....and while I give all due respect to Sheila Reid, Sarah Bowman Brown, Abbey D'Agostino, Trenier Moser et al.....they are (not yet!!) anywhere near the stature of a Kristiansen or Puica or Slaney at their best!!

I will, of course, be following Cain's OUTdoor races with the utmost anticipation!!
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Re: International comparisons - Junior female distance runne

Postby az2004 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:08 am

most people only know about the 1984 la incident and forget thewhole story or never were exposed to the story, the races are on the internet and once i ran into them, it was a pleasure to see them

the moscow 3k win was my favorite, although the 14:48 5k win over kristiansen showed how gutsy she was
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