2013 Indoor Results


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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:02 am

In yesterday's SEC meet......

Eddie Lovett of Florida ran 60H prelim in 7.57!!
His time is #12 on the A-T Collegiate list!!
Kim Duncan PR'd in the 200 prelim in 22.71.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby norunner » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:47 am

The only good result from the second day of German champs was the mens PV:
1. Björn Otto 5.85, 2. Malte Mohr 5.80m, 3. Hendrik Gruber 5.75m, 4. Tobias Scherbath 5.75m, 5. Raphael Holzdeppe 5.70m (Otto three attempts over 6.01m)

And the rest of todays competition was TERRIBLE. 2.15m HJ m for the title, 47.33 400m m and so on. In a country that brought us Mögenburg, Thränhardt, Wessig, Buß, Meyfarth, Henkel and Friedrich, 2.10m and 1.80 were enough for third places in the high jumps. Something is seriously wrong.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:04 am

aaronk wrote:In yesterday's SEC meet......

Eddie Lovett of Florida ran 60H prelim in 7.57!!
His time is #12 on the A-T Collegiate list!!
Kim Duncan PR'd in the 200 prelim in 22.71.


Lovett just won the 60H with a new PR of 7.54, moving him to 9th A-T Collegiate!!
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:42 am

Lovett's 7.54 win is being called the SEC meet record!!

But Ron Bramlett ran 7.52 in the 2002 SEC prelim race, so THAT should be called the meet record......unless only Finals marks are eligible for MR's!!
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:29 pm

Here is the 400 from the SEC Conference meet. Note, in addition to the heats, there are also events like the 200, DMR and 4x400 that these guys are doing in a relative short period of time.

Preliminaries
1 Deon Lendore SO Texas A&M 45.15q 1
2 Hugh Graham, Jr SO Florida 45.86q 2
1 Deon Lendore SO Texas A&M 45.23 2 10
2 Hugh Graham, Jr SO Florida 45.67 2 8
3 Anton Kokorin SR Arkansas 46.38 1 6
4 Ricky BabineauxSR Texas A&M 46.57 1 5
5 Travis Southard JR Arkansas 47.11 2 4
6 Caleb Williams SR LSU 47.28 1 3
7 Clayton Gravesande JR South Carolina 47.36 1 2

1 Regina George SR Arkansas 51.40 2 10
2 Kamaria Brown SO Texas A&M 52.16 2 8
3 Shaunae Miller FR Georgia 52.21 1 6
4 Erika Rucker SO South Carolina 52.22 1 5
5 Ebony Eutsey JR Florida 52.53 1 4
6 Sparkle McKnight JR Arkansas 52.77 2 3
7 Ibukun Mayungbe JR Texas A&M 52.86 2 2
8 Jody-Ann Muir SR Miss State 53.22 1 1
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:37 pm

More SEC

200 Prelims has an indoor PR for KD as noted before

1 Kimberlyn Duncan SR LSU 22.71q 3
2 Ashton Purvis SO Texas A&M 22.99q 2
3 Regina George SR Arkansas 23.00q 1
4 Kamaria Brown SO Texas A&M 23.05q 1
5 Ashley Collier JR Texas A&M 23.14q 3
6 Ebony Eutsey JR Florida 23.58q 2
7 Tynia Gaither SO Georgia 23.66q 4
8 Kai Selvon JR Auburn 23.67q 2
9 Tamyah Pipkin SO Kentucky 23.68 7
10 Jennifer Madu FR Texas A&M 23.69 3

Points 60H HJ SP LJ 800
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1 Makeba Alcide 8.35 1.87m 12.32m 6.15m 2:16.37
Arkansas 6-01.5 40-05 20-02.25
SR Team Points: 10 4569 (1050) (1067) (682) (896) (874)
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2 Lucie Ondraschkova 8.83 1.75m 11.12m 6.06m 2:16.23
Georgia 5-08.75 36-05.75 19-10.75
SR Team Points: 8 4208 (946) (916) (603) (868) (875)

1 Marquis Dendy SO Florida 8.25mM 27-01.00 10
FOUL 8.25m 8.22m PASS 8.24m PASS
2 Damar Forbes SR LSU 8.07m 26-05.75 8
6.34m 8.07m 7.98m 7.98m 7.93m FOUL
3 Raymond Higgs JR Arkansas 7.90m 25-11.00 6
7.64m 7.90m 7.84m 7.84m 7.90m 7.84m
4 Kamal Fuller JR Alabama 7.84m 25-08.75 5
FOUL FOUL 7.84m FOUL 7.71m FOUL
5 Malcolm Pennix SR Missouri 7.82m 25-08.00 4
7.82m 7.50m 7.58m 5.30m FOUL FOUL
6 Jarrod Hutchen SR South Carolina 7.77m 25-06.00 3
FOUL 7.77m FOUL 5.54m FOUL PASS

1 Markesh Woodson FR Missouri 6.60 10
2 Marcus Rowland SR Auburn 6.63 8
3 Hugh Graham, Jr SO Florida 6.65 6
4 Harry Adams SR Auburn 6.66 5
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby ATK » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:16 pm

Duncan just ran 22.54 to win and PR by .17.

Is she now # 4 all time?
only Knight, VCB, and Muna Lee ahead if im correct.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:26 pm

aaronk wrote:Lovett's 7.54 win is being called the SEC meet record!!

But Ron Bramlett ran 7.52 in the 2002 SEC prelim race, so THAT should be called the meet record......unless only Finals marks are eligible for MR's!!


It was really windy in Fayetville in Feb 2002.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:50 pm

Anyone know why Arman Hall didn't run at SEC's? He was in UF's meet preview but he's not in the results.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby aaronk » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:09 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
aaronk wrote:Lovett's 7.54 win is being called the SEC meet record!!

But Ron Bramlett ran 7.52 in the 2002 SEC prelim race, so THAT should be called the meet record......unless only Finals marks are eligible for MR's!!


It was really windy in Fayetville in Feb 2002.


:lol: :lol:

But guess what??
There's ANOTHER error in the SEC meet record listings!!
They have the women's 200 MR as Kerron Stewart's (then of Auburn) 22.46 from the 2007 meet as the MR!

Wrong!!

That meet was in the Nutter Arena in Lexington KY, which is listed as a 290 meter track!!
Oversize!!
Therefore, NO RECORD!!!
If it's not eligible for an NCAA record, then it shouldn't be eligible for a meet record either!!

So I'm not sure, but Kim Duncan's 22.54 today MIGHT be the REAL Meet Record!!

And with A Purvis and K Brown running 22.70 and 22.73 behind Duncan, it was quite a race!!
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:52 pm

aaronk wrote:That meet was in the Nutter Arena in Lexington KY, which is listed as a 290 meter track!!
Oversize!!
Therefore, NO RECORD!!!
If it's not eligible for an NCAA record, then it shouldn't be eligible for a meet record either!!

So I'm not sure, but Kim Duncan's 22.54 today MIGHT be the REAL Meet Record!!

And with A Purvis and K Brown running 22.70 and 22.73 behind Duncan, it was quite a race!!


The SEC can have whatever rules they want for what they consider the meet record. Maybe they know that a strongly banked 200m track like Arkansas aids a runner more than an OT track does, so they use common sense, rather than some not-always-appropriate assessment to determine what they consider to be meet records.

In terms of rules, I would be inclined to say that using a strongly banked track makes most 200m and many 400m races ineligible for record purposes -- they are aided events that would not even be legal for road racing records (they exceed the allowable downhill limits).
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby fasttrack85 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:11 pm

ATK wrote:Duncan just ran 22.54 to win and PR by .17.

Is she now # 4 all time?
only Knight, VCB, and Muna Lee ahead if im correct.



I think Sanya had a 22.49 on the same day VCB ran her indoor pb. BTW does anyone know what lanes each of these runners ran in? Was the track the same as it is now?
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby fasttrack85 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:14 pm

Aurieyal Scott 7.13 pb at Conference USA indoor champs!!!!!! She has had a 7.20 in prelims. So she has def been working on her start(watch out Kimmie D). She also ran a 22.91 in the finals(im sure she would have ran in the 22.5's if she ran at Fayetville yesterday).
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby fasttrack85 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Aaron Earnest wl 20.53 in sec finals.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:32 pm

fasttrack85 wrote:
ATK wrote:Duncan just ran 22.54 to win and PR by .17.

Is she now # 4 all time?
only Knight, VCB, and Muna Lee ahead if im correct.



I think Sanya had a 22.49 on the same day VCB ran her indoor pb. BTW does anyone know what lanes each of these runners ran in? Was the track the same as it is now?


The preferred lanes for the one of the meets (SEC?) were listed as 5, 6, 4, 3, ... if that helps
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby ATK » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:57 pm

26mi235 wrote:
fasttrack85 wrote:
ATK wrote:Duncan just ran 22.54 to win and PR by .17.

Is she now # 4 all time?
only Knight, VCB, and Muna Lee ahead if im correct.



I think Sanya had a 22.49 on the same day VCB ran her indoor pb. BTW does anyone know what lanes each of these runners ran in? Was the track the same as it is now?


The preferred lanes for the one of the meets (SEC?) were listed as 5, 6, 4, 3, ... if that helps

Seems that they have just been messing with the lane draws forever indoors.
I think it was previously top 4 go 5,6,4,3 in the second section
They have done the top 2 get lane 5 in separate sections
this SEC's just had the top 2 were 5,6 in the 2nd section, next two 5,6 in first section

Oh and yea Knight, VCB, M. Lee, SRR, and K. Stewart should be the ones ahead of Duncan.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby j-a-m » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:36 am

ATK wrote:
26mi235 wrote:The preferred lanes for the one of the meets (SEC?) were listed as 5, 6, 4, 3, ... if that helps

Seems that they have just been messing with the lane draws forever indoors.
I think it was previously top 4 go 5,6,4,3 in the second section
They have done the top 2 get lane 5 in separate sections
this SEC's just had the top 2 were 5,6 in the 2nd section, next two 5,6 in first section

Yes, and in the ACC this weekend it was 5,6,4,3 with the top two getting lane 5 in separate sections.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby Conor Dary » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:38 pm

Big 10 men was a pretty close race. Wisconsin 1st with 90 points and Minnesota 5th with 86....amazing.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:23 pm

Conor Dary wrote:Big 10 men was a pretty close race. Wisconsin 1st with 90 points and Minnesota 5th with 86....amazing.


And how they got there is a story in itself. Wisconsin had a 1.5 point lead over Illinois going in to the 4x400, with Illinois having the second fastest seed time. All of the teams in contention have to be in the same, final heat. At the last exchange the Illinois anchor (who won the 400?) took the stick on the wrong side and then ran straight -- with the exchange being on the curve -- and ran into someone and went down (not badly, though). He got going but then around where he passed the Wisconsin anchor, from what I heard, he stumbled and went down. Then, with 250 left he just threw in the towel and stepped off the track, frustrated!

In another mark Francis from Oregon ran a 52.03 but in the video it really looks like she goes over the line an several steps on the curve.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby Conor Dary » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:31 am

Thanks 26 for the info. I heard something weird had happened on the relay. So Illinois like their basketball and football teams blew it again!
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:49 am

Conor Dary wrote:Thanks 26 for the info. I heard something weird had happened on the relay. So Illinois like their basketball and football teams blew it again!


But not the women, who won behind such stars as Ashley Spencer (30pts 200/400/4x400) -- and neither the women nor the men were favored. In fact, the men were not even mentioned as being among the top contenders, so they should be complemented on competing very well. They were only ranked 56th before and 37th now, while Penn State, Nebraska, Indiana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota were all ranked in the top 15 (MN now down a bit and Wisconsin moved (too) high to 4th.

"The 30th-year head coach expects his Badgers, Penn State and Minnesota to chase meet favorite Nebraska for the title."
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:19 pm

Today and tomorrow mark what are classified as Last Chance meets to qualify for the NCAA champs. This year they are taking the top 16 (no ties, going to second best marks, etc) marks except for the relays where 12 are taken. Going in to today, Texas was ranked #1 in the DMR and decided not to contest another race, I suppose that they felt safe. However, when the dust settled on the three DMR heats at the Notre Dame meet, Texas' 9:31.x was only good for 14th (or 15th). My local boys finished 0.2 seconds out, although ahead of Texas. Penn State's 9:26 was the best of the marks.

There might be some fast 800 and mile races tomorrow, making those with current (conditional) qualifying marks a little nervous, I am sure.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby aaronk » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:13 pm

At the Arkansas Last Chance.....

Leoman Mamoh ran 1:46.07 for a CL....and 7th on the A-T Collegiate indoor list!!
Second in that race was Tomas Squella, at 1:46.76, #2 on the 2013 Collegiate list.

In the women's PV, Sandi Morris vaulted 14-6 1/4 (4.43), tying for 10th on the A-T indoor collegiate list!!
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:39 pm

Another gem in the link that has the indoor time trial -- Lazas was listed as running 1:24, which is a very good time for a multi athlete. He may not be able to do that as a seventh performance in two days but might still hit 2:29 and pick up a ton of points.
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Re: 2013 Indoor Results

Postby CookyMonzta » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:38 pm

26mi235 wrote:In terms of rules, I would be inclined to say that using a strongly banked track makes most 200m and many 400m races ineligible for record purposes -- they are aided events that would not even be legal for road racing records (they exceed the allowable downhill limits).

Then why not change the way an indoor track is banked?

I've been saying this for at least 5 years now, and I will say it again: Move the axis of the banking from the inside of lane 1 to the inside of lane 4!

For example, if you have a typical 6-lane track where the highest point of banking is 1 meter off the ground (that would be the outside of lane 6), it is obviously a foregone conclusion that the further out you are from lane 1, the greater your advantage. And since the start of the 200 or 400 in lanes 5 and 6 are closest to the middle of the turn, the runner goes slightly up, before going way down, then way up and way down again, before crossing the finish. Of course a runner in lane 1 gets no help, even if the turns tilt, because the track does not rise or drop on every turn in lane 1.

Now, suppose we move the axis of a track's banking from the inside of lane 1 to the inside of lane 4. Lane 6 will rise as high as a half-meter from the middle of the turn, before leveling off at the back-straight, and lane 1 will drop a half-meter from the middle of the turn, before rising at the back-straight. A runner in lane 1 will start on a slight downhill, and go down, up, down and up; for lane 6, the runner will start on a an uphill that is barely noticeable, but the downhill run toward the back-straight and the homestretch is not nearly as obvious as it is on a banked track today.

Such a track as this will lessen the advantage to a runner in lane 5 or 6, while a runner in lane 1 or 2 gets the added advantage of a slight downhill start, thereby improving his acceleration at the start to neutralize the advantage of a runner in lane 5 or 6. Runners in lane 3 or 4 will barely notice an uphill or downhill bank, because the axis of that banking will be between those lanes.

Such a track would have to have its straightaways built almost 2 feet off the ground, to allow for the drop in lane 1 on the turns. I'm sure people will have questions about my proposal, but it has the advantage of never having been tried. Or has it?
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