A Very Bad Morning For Lance


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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby guru » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:10 pm

Forbes: Armstrong most disliked US athlete

http://bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/2013/ ... s-athlete/
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:24 pm

Jonathan Vaughters has another, typically interesting and insightful piece on how bicycling can move forward, and it is not by having the MPCC sue Armstrong.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/jonathan-vaughters/opinion-its-not-all-about-lance-armstrong-and-heres-how-we-can-fight-doping
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:44 pm

USADA has asserted that Armstrong continued to use PEDs in his comeback, citing the biological passport. Apparently Dr Ashenden is one expert that they rely on (not certain). The other expert to weigh in on the topic, Ann Gripper who developed the whole mechanism for the UCI, has stated that she saw nothing in Armstrong's 2009 data indicating PEDs.

Now, the UCI is saying that Ashenden declared that Armstrong's sample, adjudged anonymously when it was randomly selected in 2009, to be 'normal' with no qualifications, see below.

The USADA repeatedly making the assertions that it has.
Blood is at the heart of the USADA's case against Lance Armstrong, specifically 38 blood samples taken from 2008 to 2012, in the custody of the USADA, and which are said to show suspicious fluctuations, an American newspaper reported. The American anti-doping agency hopes to use those tests along with witnesses to establish that Armstrong used banned drugs or methods.
Ashenden later said that the 2009 data indicated (likely) doping.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-usada-has-38-armstrong-blood-samples-from-2008-to-2012

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-releases-armstrong-data-in-attempt-to-refute-ashendens-doping-claims

The UCI has reacted by saying, “As everyone should know, the APMU (Athletes Passport Management Unit, which is an independent unit established in Lausanne) regularly submits profiles to the experts of the panel. This procedure is strictly anonymous, which means that neither Dr Ashenden nor any other expert would ever have known when or how many times the profile of one rider or another was submitted to him. Having said that, the UCI wishes to confirm that on May 4, 2009 Dr Ashenden and two other experts on the Biological Passport panel received the profiles of eight riders. These profiles were selected randomly and included that of Lance Armstrong.”

“This profile was based on 9 results of analyses carried out in 2008 (October 16, November 26, December 3, December 11 and December 18) and 2009 (January 16, February 4, February 13, March 11).”

“In their responses (in the case of Dr Ashenden, on May 5 2009), it is interesting to note that of the three experts, Dr Ashenden was the only one to have defined this profile as “normal” without making any other remarks, comments or reservations (of the eight profiles submitted, Dr Ashenden was the expert who most often used the definition “normal” with no further comment).”
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby jazzcyclist » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:12 pm

The piling-on has really gotten ridiculous. Per the article linked on the front page, now FINA has jumped in on the fun and they're banning Armstrong from competing in a masters swim meet in Texas.

Lausanne (SUI), April 4, 2013 – Following reports on the media referring the participation of Mr. Lance Armstrong in the Masters South Central Zone Swimming Championships in Texas (USA), FINA would like to clarify that:

    1. This national competition is under the jurisdiction of the US Masters Swimming;

    2. FINA Rule DC 15.1 states:
“Subject to the right to appeal provided in DC 13, the Testing, therapeutic use exemptions and hearing results or other final adjudications of any Signatory to the Code which are consistent with the Code and are within the Signatory’s authority, shall be recognised and respected by FINA and its Member Federations.(...)”

Therefore, FINA wrote a letter to the US Masters Swimming (with copy to US Aquatic Sports and USA Swimming) requesting not to accept the entry of Mr. Lance Armstrong in the above mentioned competition.

So now he's been banned from cycling, running, swimming and triathlons. What say you Conor Dary?
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby Daisy » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:27 pm

He could play football.
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby batonless relay » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:44 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:The piling-on has really gotten ridiculous. Per the article linked on the front page, now FINA has jumped in on the fun and they're banning Armstrong from competing in a masters swim meet in Texas.

So now he's been banned from cycling, running, swimming and triathlons. What say you Conor Dary?

Not exactly. Once someone has been banned by WADA then ALL WADA signatories, of which FINA is one, must recognize the ban. You can't just take up another sport. Unless it's NFL (they won't care).
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby jazzcyclist » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:34 pm

batonless relay wrote:Not exactly. Once someone has been banned by WADA then ALL WADA signatories, of which FINA is one, must recognize the ban. You can't just take up another sport. Unless it's NFL (they won't care).

I see where you're coming from, but there are two problems with this. Men's and women's basketball are Olympic sports but NBA players aren't subjected to random, out-of-competition testing as proscribed by WADA, and are still alowed to participate in the Olympics. I don't know about WNBA drug testing, but Marion Jones was allowed to play in the WNBA after she was banned from track.
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Re: A Very Bad Morning For Lance

Postby 18.99s » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:28 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:So now he's been banned from cycling, running, swimming and triathlons.


His next bans will be from poker, chess, and car racing.
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