Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?


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Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby lovetorun » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:57 am

Simple trivia question...who was the first to break 1:47.0 in the 880? But, also when and where and the time?
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby dukehjsteve » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:44 am

Tom Courtney, 1957 ? in 1:46.8. Don't know where. California somewhere I think. Compton ? West Coast Relays ?

Edit to add a few days later:

Just looked it up... I was on the money. It was at the Coliseum Relays.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby huntinwr » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:59 am

Of course, as we all know, Roger Moens ran a WR 1:45.7 800 in 1955, with Boysen right behind him in 1:45.9, both intinsically superior to 880y in 1:46.8...
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby lovetorun » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:19 pm

dukehjsteve...right.Tom Courtney, Coliseum Relays, May 24, 1957.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby Per Andersen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:03 pm

And of course Courtney himself also ran faster than 1.46.8y about 2 months later at Bislett when he ran American record 1.45.8.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby aaronk » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:15 pm

Of course, first to break 1:47 for 800 METERS was Germany's Rudolph Harbig in 1939 with his 1:46.6.
However, that converts to about 1:47.3 for an 880!!
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby Conor Dary » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:32 am

lovetorun wrote:dukehjsteve...right.Tom Courtney, Coliseum Relays, May 24, 1957.


Then destroyed by Snell's 1:44.3 on a grass track in 1962....still a decent time these days.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby kuha » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:13 pm

Conor Dary wrote:
lovetorun wrote:dukehjsteve...right.Tom Courtney, Coliseum Relays, May 24, 1957.


Then destroyed by Snell's 1:44.3 on a grass track in 1962....still a decent time these days.


The 880 time was 1:45.1, wasn't it?
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby dukehjsteve » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:31 pm

kuha wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:
lovetorun wrote:dukehjsteve...right.Tom Courtney, Coliseum Relays, May 24, 1957.


Then destroyed by Snell's 1:44.3 on a grass track in 1962....still a decent time these days.


The 880 time was 1:45.1, wasn't it?


I'll confirm that one.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby Tuariki » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:38 pm

Conor Dary wrote:
lovetorun wrote:dukehjsteve...right.Tom Courtney, Coliseum Relays, May 24, 1957.


Then destroyed by Snell's 1:44.3 on a grass track in 1962....still a decent time these days.

Especially on grass. I wonder how many of today's 800m runners could run 1:44.3 on grass
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby catson52 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:19 am

Snell was at the top of his form in Jan-Feb of 1962. In his 3:54.4 mile at Wanganui, the splits and manner of racing, suggest he could have been sub 3:53 that evening. That would place it at the same level as Elliott's 1500m WR from 1960.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby runforlife » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:16 am

Tuariki wrote:Especially on grass. I wonder how many of today's 800m runners could run 1:44.3 on grass

Your statement sems to indicate that you believe grass is slower than cinders or the modern tracks. But is that really true for a top first class grass track?
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby Conor Dary » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:35 am

runforlife wrote:
Tuariki wrote:Especially on grass. I wonder how many of today's 800m runners could run 1:44.3 on grass

Your statement sems to indicate that you believe grass is slower than cinders or the modern tracks. But is that really true for a top first class grass track?


We will probably never know. But somehow I find it kind of doubtful Bolt could run 19.19 on a grass track.
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Re: Who was first to break 1:47.0 in the 880?

Postby Tuariki » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:25 am

runforlife wrote:
Tuariki wrote:Especially on grass. I wonder how many of today's 800m runners could run 1:44.3 on grass

Your statement sems to indicate that you believe grass is slower than cinders or the modern tracks. But is that really true for a top first class grass track?

I have run on a lot of top grass tracks including the Christchurch track Snell set his record on. My opinion only, but I believe the rubberised tracks of today are faster than grass.
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