Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Years


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Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Years

Postby pinoyathletics.com » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:09 pm

This is an article i wrote on Isidro Del Prado Sr. Its interesting to note the Philippine Record still remains Unbroken at 45.57s after 28 years. Before Del Prado the Philippine Record was 48.41 before Del Prado lowered it significantly in the early 80s.

http://pinoyathletics.com/2013/01/10/isidro-del-prado/
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby Olli » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:10 pm

That is not especially old for a national record. For example, the Finnish record is 45.49, which Markku Kukkoaho ran in the finale of Munich Olympics 1972. Finnish women's record is 50.14, which Riitta Salin ran to win the European Championship in 1974.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby bambam » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:48 am

Irish men's long jump record - set by Peter O'Connor in 1901 and lasted until 1990.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby Powell » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:23 am

Olli wrote:That is not especially old for a national record. For example, the Finnish record is 45.49, which Markku Kukkoaho ran in the finale of Munich Olympics 1972. Finnish women's record is 50.14, which Riitta Salin ran to win the European Championship in 1974.


Poland has a lot of nat'l records older than 28 yrs. ago at present. Limiting ourselves to Olympics events only, 4 current records were set in 1976, one in 1978 and two in 1980. And none of them is likely to get broken any time soon :?
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby pinoyathletics.com » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:51 pm

bambam wrote:Irish men's long jump record - set by Peter O'Connor in 1901 and lasted until 1990.


what was the distance?
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby Tuariki » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:44 am

New Zealand's oldest record is Sir Peter Snell's 1:44.3 set on a grass track at Christchurch on 2 February 1962. Neither Sir John Walker not Nick Willis have come close to breaking it.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby bambam » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:24 pm

pinoyathletics.com wrote:
bambam wrote:Irish men's long jump record - set by Peter O'Connor in 1901 and lasted until 1990.


what was the distance?


7.61 - it was a world record and became the first IAAF-approved world record for the long jump
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby pinoyathletics.com » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:18 pm

bambam wrote:
pinoyathletics.com wrote:
bambam wrote:Irish men's long jump record - set by Peter O'Connor in 1901 and lasted until 1990.


what was the distance?


7.61 - it was a world record and became the first IAAF-approved world record for the long jump


Thats surprising. The Philippine Mens Record for the long jump also stood for a long time it was 7.65m from 1936 until 2004. It stood for 68 years.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby gh » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:06 am

Long jump records with longetivy aren't remotely surprising. They're very common. The most elemental of events it would seem.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby LopenUupunut » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:39 am

gh wrote:Long jump records with longetivy aren't remotely surprising. They're very common. The most elemental of events it would seem.
Yup. For instance, Sylvio Cator still has the Haitian record :)

Cator lost to Ed Hamm at Amsterdam (where both of them had one big foul), but broke Hamm's WR later that year. Similarly, he was injured in Los Angeles and only managed 593 but beat Oly champ Gordon a couple weeks later.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby pinoyathletics.com » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:40 am

1928 thats some 85 years ago. What did he jump. Surely someone from that Island would be close to that by now or is that the last time they had a stable government?
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby LopenUupunut » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:13 am

pinoyathletics.com wrote:1928 thats some 85 years ago. What did he jump.
793, still quite respectable. (He was the first man over 26 feet.)

Samyr Laine, who has the Haitian TJ record at 17.39A, might have been able to scare it at his peak (certainly with the help of that altitude), but he's always been a pure triple jumper.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby user4 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Tuariki wrote:New Zealand's oldest record is Sir Peter Snell's 1:44.3 set on a grass track at Christchurch on 2 February 1962. Neither Sir John Walker not Nick Willis have come close to breaking it.


They are both human, Sir Peter Snell was not.

Regarding Philippine 400, Irish or Haitian LJ, etc.. the simplest answer might be the right one: The probability of a record being broken is at best proportional to the benefit gained in breaking it. An NCAA D2 athlete likely has more to gain getting a PR in a dual meet than a filippino has in breaking the NR.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby Jacksf » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:19 pm

Mr. Pinoy,
You may be interested in this brief discussion we had about former Philippine 400m record holder, Carlos Tan
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25505&p=359126&hilit=carlos+tan#p359126
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby wallaby » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:15 pm

There's some pretty old ones still for Australia:

Mens 200m - Peter Norman - 20.06 - 1968.
Mens 800m - Ralph Doubell - 1.44.6 - 1968
Women's 800m - Charlene Rendina - 1.59 - 1976

The 100m Hurdle record pre-Sally Pearson was set in 1972.

Like a lot of countries, we just don't get the depth in athletics - a small population means that almost all the good athletes get streamed at junior level to football (all types), basketball, netball, and hockey. There's not enough 'left-overs' to develop a strong internal competition in sports like athletics.
Plus, in the 1970s, the Australian Olympic Committee decided to target Olympic sports where Australia had had some past success, and were more likely to bring rewards in the future - ie value for money. Top junior development programs were put in place for those sports.
Hence why Australia has been such a leading cycling and rowing nation over the last 20+ years (the poms have pinched all our ideas and our coaches recently, and they lead those now), and our athletes have been doing it tough.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby dt46dt46dt46 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:39 pm

how about - 2 Miles HS

8:40.0

Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Washington)

Daly City, California

2/15/64 !!! 49 years !!!
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby pinoyathletics.com » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:39 pm

Peter Norman is an utter legend. :)

Our 400m Hurdles was recently broken by Fil-Heritage athlete Eric Cray he just ran 50.74 in April. The previous was 51.26 by Renato Unso at the 1983 SEA Games where he won the gold medal. Eric made the final at asian champs and is our representative at the world champs.

Cray has a personal best of 50.46. But he acquired his dual citizenship in March, so the IAAF has now recognized this as the new record aswell as the Philippines Track and Field Association.

I have put up my references.

Renato Unso
http://pinoyathletics.info/2013/07/rena ... al-record/

Eric Cray
http://pinoyathletics.info/2013/07/cray ... nso-rev-2/
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby user4 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:57 am

bambam wrote:Irish men's long jump record - set by Peter O'Connor in 1901 and lasted until 1990.


There were allot of guiness poured and bar fights had between 1901 and 1990.
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Re: Philippines Record 400m Record still 45.57 after 28 Year

Postby Powell » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:51 am

Polish junior records in the women's 100, 200 and LJ will be 50 years old next year. All set at the Tokyo Olympics by Ewa Kłobukowska and Irena Kirszenstein (later Szewińska). Well, we've now got a contender for the 100 record, so maybe that one won't survive next season, but breaking the other two could take a long time...
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