2012 College Football

[DrJay]

You know they've really screwed up the post-season when the 2012 College Football thread is languishing on page 3 of the forum on New Year's Day.

[Marlow]

There's exactly three games to watch:

Rose - today (probably only of interest to Pac-8/10/12/14/etc. or Big-10/12/14/etc. fans)
Fiesta - Thursday
BCS - Monday

Then there's some of train-wreck (David vs. Goliath) interest:

Orange - today
Sugar - tomorrow

and, of course, the

Johnny Football (Heisman) [Cotton] Bowl - Friday

[jazzcyclist]

I can't believe Northern Illinois' quarterback Jordan Lynch was foolish enough to trash-talk Florida State.

We plan on wearing them down. In the fourth quarter, we plan to have them on their knees — and then just keep pounding away.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sport ... -to/nTh8J/



If the Huskies do win, it won't be because they physically dominated Florida State, rather it will be becasue they played a perfect game, used every trick play in their playbook and executed them flawlessly and have all the stars aligned just right (eg. Bose State in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl).

[Marlow]

The Red Tree Farmers CRUSH/ANNIHILATE/DESTROY Wisconsin!!

[OK, it was less than a TD, but still]

[DoubleRBar]

I still think Stanford beat Notre Dame in Indiana.

[jhc68]

As for the BCS BS Championship, for me this is tough to even think about.

Since I have abhorred both ND and Bama for most of my life the only satisfactory result of the game would be for one of the teams (I don't care which) to absolutely destroy the other, this exposing the loser as an over-rated fraud !!!

A close game would just re-inforce the propaganda machines for TD Jesus and the all-powerful SEC. Ptooeey...

[jazzcyclist]

College football has become one big money grab and now even Boise State is getting in on the action.

A little more than a year ago, Boise State surveyed the college football landscape and made a head-scratching -- and completely unconventional move -- joining a league based 2,600 miles away for football only.

The bottom line then: The Big East offered the potential for an automatic bid into the BCS and much more money out of a renegotiated television contract, two major lifelines that would ensure the Broncos' national relevance into the future.

Today, Boise State surveyed the college football landscape and made yet another decision, a conventional one this time. The best program outside the automatic-qualifying conferences chose to spurn the Big East to stay in its current home, the Mountain West, a league that provides a better geographical fit, a spot for all its sports and the potential to earn much more money out of a renegotiated television deal. . . . . . .

As a way to keep Boise State in the fold, the Mountain West renegotiated its television deal with its primary network partner, CBS Sports Network. The league will guarantee the rights to Boise State home football games that are sold as a separate package. In addition, Boise State and other football teams in the Mountain West that appear on national television (ESPN, ESPN2, ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox) will be paid a bonus of $300,000 per game, with an additional $200,000 for a Saturday game.

Wonder who will get the lion's share of those appearances?

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/ ... o-big-east

[Marlow]

College football has become one big money grab and now even Boise State is getting in on the action.

A little more than a year ago, Boise State surveyed the college football landscape and made a move [to the] Big East [which] offered the potential for an automatic bid into the BCS and much more money . . . [and then reneged when] the potential to earn much more money out of a renegotiated television deal.

Big-time D1 football used to be about . . . sports, but now it's been reduced to two things
1. Name recognition, which leads to more applications and more booster money.
2. Revenue, namely football's ability to float the rest of the Athletic Dept.

[donley2]

There's exactly three games to watch:

Rose - today (probably only of interest to Pac-8/10/12/14/etc. or Big-10/12/14/etc. fans)
Fiesta - Thursday
BCS - Monday

Then there's some of train-wreck (David vs. Goliath) interest:

Orange - today
Sugar - tomorrow

and, of course, the

Johnny Football (Heisman) [Cotton] Bowl - Friday

So I agree with your number (3) but will substitute Johnny football for the Rose as the whole Wisconsin with 5 losses just blows the excitement even if they win. So in summary as stated above a couple times a bit sad when Jan 1st is over and the must watch games are just getting ready to start.

[guru]

Somehow Louisville didnt get the memo they're 14 point dogs...

[Marlow]

Somehow Louisville didnt get the memo they're 14 point dogs...

UP by 14 at the half. Gators can only hope they're 'wearing down' L-ville, which doesn't look like it's happening.

[jazzcyclist]

Did anyone else catch Brigetta Barrett's beautiful national anthem performance before tonight's Fiesta Bowl? It's a good thing for Kimberlyn that the Bowerman doesn't include a talent competition.

[jazzcyclist]

That didn't take long. It's only fitting that he leaned at the finish line, err goal line, when he got to the end zone.

[Marlow]

Despite living only 1.5 hrs from Gatorville, I was glad to see them spanked by L'ville. Tebow notwithstanding, they tend to be a little too full of themselves. The Seminoles, meanwhile, took care of business in methodical manner.

[jazzcyclist]

Despite living only 1.5 hrs from Gatorville, I was glad to see them spanked by L'ville. Tebow notwithstanding, they tend to be a little too full of themselves. The Seminoles, meanwhile, took care of business in methodical manner.

I think SEC fans everywhere need to get their comeuppance to cure them of their nauseating sense of entitlement. I live five minutes from LSU, and not only does the loss on Monday not really bother me, but I would love to see the SEC go 0-3 in their last three bowl games culminating with a humiliating, lopsided defeat on Monday.

As far Florida State, they let Northern Illinois hang around much longer than they should have, and they didn't look like a top ten team IMO.

[guru]

That didn't take long. It's only fitting that he leaned at the finish line, err goal line, when he got to the end zone.

Impressive. Thomas(10.57/21.35) 94 yards in full football gear +/- 10 seconds(clock read 14:50 when he crossed the goal line). ESPN "clocked" him in 26.03 MPH(I'd sure like to know how they came up with THAT lol).

[jazzcyclist]

ESPN "clocked" him in 26.03 MPH(I'd sure like to know how they came up with THAT lol).

I saw that and immediately called bullshit.

[jazzcyclist]

The Fiesta Bowl featured three tributes to track and field last night. I mentioned two of them on the previous page. True track fans should be able to recognize the third in this Fiesta Bowl promo by Modern Family's Ty Burrell and Eric Stonestreet.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8799274

[Marlow]

As far Florida State, they let Northern Illinois hang around much longer than they should have, and they didn't look like a top ten team IMO.

Almost all decent teams can hang with anyone for a half, but then speed and depth start to tell. Even Florida actually did mount a comeback, but far too little, far too late.

[jazzcyclist]

As far Florida State, they let Northern Illinois hang around much longer than they should have, and they didn't look like a top ten team IMO.

Almost all decent teams can hang with anyone for a half, but then speed and depth start to tell. Even Florida actually did mount a comeback, but far too little, far too late.

A much better and undefeated Hawaii team couldn't hang with Georgia for a half in the 2008 Sugar Bowl. Iowa, who finshed second to last in the Big 10, is the only AQ-coonference team Northern Illinois played all year, and they lost to them.

[lonewolf]

Question for the rules mavens:

If the ball carrier stays inbounds, does the football have to cross the goal line within the sidelines to count as a TD or is it sufficient if it crosses the extended goal line.

Inquiry prompted by Johnny Football's first touchdown tonight in the Cotton Bowl.. as he neared the goal line running down the left sideline, he switched the ball to his left hand and skipped into the end zone with left arm extended.. I have not seen a replay from that angle but my immediate impression was that the ball was outside the end zone side line when it crossed the extended goal line.
Not that one touchdown would have made any difference.

[Bruce Kritzler]

Question for the rules mavens: If the ball carrier stays inbounds, does the football have to cross the goal line within the sidelines to count as a TD or is it sufficient if it crosses the extended goal line.

If a receiver catches the ball in the end-zone, he only needs to get a foot down to score a TD. So, I'm guessing same holds true for a runner.

[lonewolf]

Question for the rules mavens: If the ball carrier stays inbounds, does the football have to cross the goal line within the sidelines to count as a TD or is it sufficient if it crosses the extended goal line.

If a receiver catches the ball in the end-zone, he only needs to get a foot down to score a TD. So, I'm guessing same holds true for a runner.

True, but in that case the ball would have crossed the goal line within the side lines.

[Blues]

Question for the rules mavens: If the ball carrier stays inbounds, does the football have to cross the goal line within the sidelines to count as a TD or is it sufficient if it crosses the extended goal line.

If a receiver catches the ball in the end-zone, he only needs to get a foot down to score a TD. So, I'm guessing same holds true for a runner.

True, but in that case the ball would have crossed the goal line within the side lines.

Even if the ball crosses outside the pylon, it's a touchdown if the ball carrier touches the end zone or goal line in bounds.. Rule 8, section 2 in the NCAA rules linked to below. Good examples are given in the later Interpretations section under Rule 8, section 2, and parts VI and VII apply to this scenario.

As stated in the rules:

A touchdown shall be scored when:

a. A ball carrier advancing from the field of play has possession of a live ball when it penetrates the plane of the opponent’s goal line. This plane extends beyond the pylons only for a player who touches the ground in the end zone or a pylon. (A.R. 2-23-1-I and A.R. 8-2-1-I-IX).

http://www.ncaapublications.com/product ... s/FR13.pdf

[lonewolf]

That is the answer. Thank you, Blues.

[Tuariki]

Rules, no rules. Who cares, Johnny Football is certainly the real deal.

Reminded me of Tiny Tim tiptoe-ing through the tulips.

[lonewolf]

Rules, no rules. Who cares, Johnny Football is certainly the real deal. .

Yep, he made a believer out of me.

[jazzcyclist]

Matchups and timing mean everything. The same Florida defense that got carved up by Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater shut down Johnny Manziel and Georgia's Arron Murray.

[guru]

Matchups and timing mean everything.

I'm not sure it was matchups or timing. You had a coach(Strong) who was extremely motivated after being passed over for the Florida job, despite the fact he was already on the staff at the time, while his team was prepared to go through hell for him after he turned down Tennessee to stay at Louisville. Then you had a Florida team that had been told for a month all they had to do was show up and the game would be over. The outcome was predictable.

[jazzcyclist]

Matchups and timing mean everything.

I'm not sure it was matchups or timing. You had a coach(Strong) who was extremely motivated after being passed over for the Florida job, despite the fact he was already on the staff at the time, while his team was prepared to go through hell for him after he turned down Tennessee to stay at Louisville.

Yeah, but Strong was just coaching, not playing.

Then you had a Florida team that had been told for a month all they had to do was show up and the game would be over. The outcome was predictable.

That sounds very similar to what the Florida State team had been hearing for a month. Was that outcome predictable too?

EDIT: FYI, according to the Vegas wise guys, Louisville's Orange Bowl win was the biggest upset in BCS history. TCU was favored over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl and Boise State had a higher BCS ranking than Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

[Marlow]

Today's word is 'nightmare', as in what the Irish Faithful are experiencing as Bama exposes ND's glaring weaknesses. 28-0 at half. Wow.

[guru]

Thing is, if Ohio State AD Gene Smith had passed on the Gator Bowl last year as a self-imposed bowl ban, Bama wouldn't even be playing tonight. It's got to be killing Urban Meyer.

[jhc68]

Poof !!!
Has there been a worse rout in a game between #1 and #2 ranked teams?

[KevinM]

Poof !!!
Has there been a worse rout in a game between #1 and #2 ranked teams?

#1 Nebraska beat #2 Florida 62-24 in the 1996 Fiesta Bowl.

[Marlow]

As much as I don't like Bama, I like that the insufferable ND fans got their comeuppance.
Watching the talking heads for the last coupla days, those that favored Bama acknowledged the seriousness of the task at hand. The ND fawners talked about the fact that Bama wouldn't even get a TD against the Irish D.

Time to reiterate the idea that the Bama team last night could have handled many pro teams of only 30 years ago. Just look at the size of the Bama O and D lines and the power of their RBs and tell me they couldn't be effective back then.