lionelp1 wrote:Even Marion Jones etc... that's a tolerance too far.
Nobody asks you to participate... Fair?
mump boy is right on... threads like this help us discover new ways of looking at historical situations... we don't need our opinions constantly validated; we need them regularly challenged.
Daisy wrote:I guess I'm going to be in big trouble if I go with Ben Johnson.
I hope not. Just because one does not celebrate the winning athlete in a moment does not mean that moment cannot be someone's favourite. mump boy is asking for your favourite, not your feel good or happiest moment(s).
Per Andersen wrote:So is it Olympic moment or is it not?. If not, change the heading.
I think mump just wanted to remind us we can't include Olympic moments with no T&F angle. It says pretty clearly in the rules that non-Olympic moments are out:
mump boy wrote:3. Moments must involve Track and Field Athletes and have taken place, in, around or during a Summer Olympic Games. In can happen off of the track but only in the duration of the games.
all moments have to involve track and field no other sports or people from other sports
for example is a T&F athlete lights the flame, it's in. If an archer does it it's not
So the moment doesn't have to take place during the t&f programme but it does have to involve track and field participants. Alternatively it could take place during the programme but not involve athletes but officials, fans etc
I'm having trouble deciding what to do about events that took place before my time. I'm considering including one because I've watched it on so many occasions, but I'm not sure I can properly appreciate a 'moment' if I didn't actually witness it first hand???
Flumpy wrote:I'm having trouble deciding what to do about events that took place before my time. I'm considering including one because I've watched it on so many occasions, but I'm not sure I can properly appreciate a 'moment' if I didn't actually witness it first hand???
That's a good compromise, and along the lines of where my votes are stacking up too.
Flumpy wrote:I'm having trouble deciding what to do about events that took place before my time. I'm considering including one because I've watched it on so many occasions, but I'm not sure I can properly appreciate a 'moment' if I didn't actually witness it first hand???
That's a good compromise, and along the lines of where my votes are stacking up too.
I only included the ones I personally experienced (all radio/TV).
Flumpy wrote:I'm having trouble deciding what to do about events that took place before my time. I'm considering including one because I've watched it on so many occasions, but I'm not sure I can properly appreciate a 'moment' if I didn't actually witness it first hand???
That's a good compromise, and along the lines of where my votes are stacking up too.
I only included the ones I personally experienced (all radio/TV).
A couple of mine are only in print... no one but the participants experienced the moment. I've watched some of them dozens of times on video... two of them over one hundred times.
bushop wrote:A couple of mine are only in print... no one but the participants experienced the moment. I've watched some of them dozens of times on video... two of them over one hundred times.
Pardon my curiosity, but I'd be interested to know which two events you've watched over 100 times. I cannot imagine watching any event, no matter how great, that many times unless perhaps I was somehow personally involved in it, as an athlete, coach, parent, etc.
PS - "It's none of your damned business" is a perfectly acceptable response.
mump boy ... You rock! It has been wonderful sifting through my (fading) memories, the copies of all my T&FNs (yes ... I have them back to 1971, just like most T&FN fanatics!), and the comments on this thread. I am eagerly awaiting the countdown!
bobguild76 wrote:mump boy ... You rock! It has been wonderful sifting through my (fading) memories, the copies of all my T&FNs (yes ... I have them back to 1971, just like most T&FN fanatics!), and the comments on this thread. I am eagerly awaiting the countdown!
bushop wrote:A couple of mine are only in print... no one but the participants experienced the moment. I've watched some of them dozens of times on video... two of them over one hundred times.
Pardon my curiosity, but I'd be interested to know which two events you've watched over 100 times. I cannot imagine watching any event, no matter how great, that many times unless perhaps I was somehow personally involved in it, as an athlete, coach, parent, etc.
PS - "It's none of your damned business" is a perfectly acceptable response.
Surely we'll find out once the results are announced.
20 moments all done and dusted and sent to mump boy. I limited my moments to those I experienced in my lifetime. That is, I ignored 1956 and before as I have no memory of 1956 and 1952 and I wasn't around for 1948 or before.
I have a long list of 30 some of which are dead cert to be included and some will easily get discarded but i want to think of some more memorable moments not just so and so won
Dang! After you list the Top Twenty, then the discussion will really take off! One memory that I didn't list, but stays with me, is the Hammer Throw in 1996. I was about 10 rows up from the cage, and watched Lance Deal's 6th round throw, moving him to the Silver Medal position. It was excruciating to watch him pace back and forth as the 8th, then 7th, the 6th and so on, took their final throws. As each fell short, he knew he was one throw closer to Olympic Silver.
It was electric, especially as it came in an event in which we had fallen off the radar. Adding to the drama was the (then) recent reshuffling of the final three rounds to go from 8 to 1 in reverse order. Now THAT is what Olympic drama is all about!
Bob, I'm pm-ing you my recollections of that HT - which also for me was just outside my top 20. To follow mump's preferences, I'll refrain from posting them in this thread now. But remind me and I'll post them when this moment (surely) comes up on someone's list.
DecFan wrote:Bob, I'm pm-ing you my recollections of that HT - which also for me was just outside my top 20. To follow mump's preferences, I'll refrain from posting them in this thread now. But remind me and I'll post them when this moment (surely) comes up on someone's list.
Thank you, DecFan. I almost refrained from posting that memory, as I want to honor mump boy's request. I put it up though, because it was outside my Top 20.
DecFan wrote:Bob, I'm pm-ing you my recollections of that HT - which also for me was just outside my top 20. To follow mump's preferences, I'll refrain from posting them in this thread now. But remind me and I'll post them when this moment (surely) comes up on someone's list.
Thank you, DecFan. I almost refrained from posting that memory, as I want to honor mump boy's request. I put it up though, because it was outside my Top 20.
But it might be in someone else's and there will be plenty of time for reminiscing later
DecFan wrote:Bob, I'm pm-ing you my recollections of that HT - which also for me was just outside my top 20. To follow mump's preferences, I'll refrain from posting them in this thread now. But remind me and I'll post them when this moment (surely) comes up on someone's list.
Thank you, DecFan. I almost refrained from posting that memory, as I want to honor mump boy's request. I put it up though, because it was outside my Top 20.
But it might be in someone else's and there will be plenty of time for reminiscing later
Excellent point. My bad! But I sure look forward to the results!
bobguild76 wrote:Dang! After you list the Top Twenty, then the discussion will really take off! One memory that I didn't list, but stays with me, is the Hammer Throw in 1996. I was about 10 rows up from the cage, and watched Lance Deal's 6th round throw, moving him to the Silver Medal position. It was excruciating to watch him pace back and forth as the 8th, then 7th, the 6th and so on, took their final throws. As each fell short, he knew he was one throw closer to Olympic Silver....
I think for Lance it might have been more excruciating when he thought he hadn't made the final three throws at all until Bob Hersh announced that ties weren't broken, and then the officials cogitated on it a while. It was certainly my take at the time that if Bob hadn't piped up Deal wouldn't have gotten the final 3 throws.
bobguild76 wrote:Dang! After you list the Top Twenty, then the discussion will really take off! One memory that I didn't list, but stays with me, is the Hammer Throw in 1996. I was about 10 rows up from the cage, and watched Lance Deal's 6th round throw, moving him to the Silver Medal position. It was excruciating to watch him pace back and forth as the 8th, then 7th, the 6th and so on, took their final throws. As each fell short, he knew he was one throw closer to Olympic Silver....
I think for Lance it might have been more excruciating when he thought he hadn't made the final three throws at all until Bob Hersh announced that ties weren't broken, and then the officials cogitated on it a while. It was certainly my take at the time that if Bob hadn't piped up Deal wouldn't have gotten the final 3 throws.
This is so diffiult. I've gone for 1 moment per Games with a few notes:
2012 Rudisha 1:40.91 [ahead of the USA 40.82, UB's 9.63, W100h and Ennis] 2008 Bolt's treble - the 100 being the peak moment 2004 Great 100m final 2000 The Men's 10000 finish [but only just ahead of the JT - the best depth in OG history] 1996 Johnson's 19.32 1992 Last lap of Men's 5000 1988 Lewis's jumping [8.72 but 8.90 toe to heel] 1984 Cruz 800 [just aead of Coe's 1500] 1980 Coe-Ovett 1976 Nemeth's 94.58 WR 1972 Bragina's 3 WRs [ahead of a great M-JT and Meyfarth's WR] 1968 Gamoudi's 5000 win - a lowlander beating the Kenyans and Ethiopians 1964 Hayes in the relay [Mary Rand WR, Cuthbert's comeback] 1960 Men's 400 [just ahead of Elliott's 1500 and Snell's surprise win] 1956 Kuts 10000 win 1952 Zatopek 5000 1948 Blankers-Koen - the 200 win was her best 1936 Owens - 100 the top moment 1932 Hampson's 800 WR 1928 Lowe's finish in the 800 [like Snell in 64, but more so!]
That's 20 - so take out 1948 and add in 1924 Nurmi's X/C win And if I look at video tomorrow the choices would be quite different
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and there will be plenty of time for reminiscing later 
