while we're waxing geographic...


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while we're waxing geographic...

Postby gh » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:14 am

is it Holland or the Netherlands? The answer is somewhat confusing!


http://holykaw.alltop.com/the-somewhat- ... between-ho
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby gh » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:15 am

ignore the idiotic pronuniation of Curaçao, by the way.
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby Marlow » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:24 am

gh wrote:is it Holland or the Netherlands? The answer is somewhat confusing!
http://holykaw.alltop.com/the-somewhat- ... between-ho

What a great video! My Dutch friend goes back 'there' every year at Christmas (where St. Nick became Sinterklaas, which became Santa Claus) and he does indeed refer to it as Holland.

So here's the trivia question: last year I learned (here) that the country I have always referred to as The Ukraine, is just Ukraine . . . is Holland properly called The Netherlands or just Netherlands (hint: Wiki has it both ways!).
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby dukehjsteve » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:56 pm

Without looking at the attachment, etc. it has always been my understanding that Holland is a province in the country of Netherlands... same as England and United Kingdom. Now I'll go read the attachment stuff !

edit I read it, so I now add: I was close... 2 provinces, N and S Holland.
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby tandfman » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:12 pm

FWIW, the IOC country code is NED, but before 1988, it was HOL for a number of years.
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby bambam » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:19 am

tandfman wrote:FWIW, the IOC country code is NED, but before 1988, it was HOL for a number of years.


Actually its a bit more complicated than that. Netherlands has been known by more codenames than any other NOC. These codes started in 1952 and from 1952-64 were only assigned by the Organizing Committees (COJOs/OCOGs), not the IOC. The IOC started assigning 3-letter codes in 1968. Since 1952 the Netherlands has had the following codenames:

1952S HOL
1952W NED
1956E HOL
1956W OLA
1960S PBA
1960W NET
1964S NLD
1964W NL
1968-1988 HOL
1992-2012 NED
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby jeremyp » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:11 am

It's all Dutch to me. Speaking as someone with a Dutch name.
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Re: while we're waxing geographic...

Postby Tuariki » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:51 am

jeremyp wrote:It's all Dutch to me. Speaking as someone with a Dutch name.

Isn't the expression "double Dutch"?
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