i guess this wins as shocking story of the year...

[Flumpy]

I love gossip and was the first to start spreading this story but in light of probable mental health issues i'm not so sure that it's entirely appropriate to keep discussing it

I agree.

This is in no way athletics related and I make no judgement on her choices as they are completely between her and her family. It's none of our business and somewhat unseemly to be discussing a personal subject of which we know very little, simpy because the person in question once ran track.

[Blues]

I love gossip and was the first to start spreading this story but in light of probable mental health issues i'm not so sure that it's entirely appropriate to keep discussing it

I agree.

This is in no way athletics related and I make no judgement on her choices as they are completely between her and her family. It's none of our business and somewhat unseemly to be discussing a personal subject of which we know very little, simpy because the person in question once ran track.

Your point is understood. But at least many of the posts have been supportive or have tried to mention certain facts that may help explain her actions, and they're probably more supportive than most comments made by the non-track and field general public, who are seeing the story plastered all over the front sports page of the major news media, often without the facts that at least in part might help explain what led to her unusual choices... I was browsing USAToday.com a few minutes ago, and she was the cover story for the sports section...

[gh]

I guess the New York Daily News wins the contest for most creative/tackiest newspaper headline. They wrote (in blazing 60-point type, of course) "On Your Mark, Get Set, Ho!"

[Anthony Treacher]

In Sweden it is not illegal to provide sex for money. It is however illegal here to buy sex. Even morally the person providing sex for money is considered here as "the exploited." The person buying sex is "the exploiter." So what exactly has SFH done that is wrong?

[SQUACKEE]

In Sweden it is not illegal to provide sex for money. It is however illegal here to buy sex. Even morally the person providing sex for money is considered here as "the exploited." The person buying sex is "the exploiter." So what exactly has SFH done that is wrong?

If part of her sacred wedding vows to her husband was to blow guys for cash and on occasion to make a little extra cash, have anal intercourse with a sweaty business man from Cleveland, then she has done nothing wrong.

[j-a-m]

Are you the sweaty businessman from Cleveland so that you have such specific knowledge? Or are you her husband so that this is any of your business?

[333]

Dear Santa....

[odelltrclan]

Are you the sweaty businessman from Cleveland so that you have such specific knowledge? Or are you her husband so that this is any of your business?

Is any of this any of ours?

[SQUACKEE]

Are you the sweaty businessman from Cleveland so that you have such specific knowledge? Or are you her husband so that this is any of your business?

There are reports that her husband isnt happy, these reports are probably completley wrong and he loves what his wife does, good day to you sir!

[Pego]

Are you the sweaty businessman from Cleveland so that you have such specific knowledge? Or are you her husband so that this is any of your business?

Is any of this any of ours?

Absolutely correct, odelltrclan. My sentiments exactly.

[uakari]

oh my freaking mackerel,

WHO CARES?

i'm just shocked anyone would pay that much for sex. reminds me of gov. spitzer's scandal. now he's a respected tv commentator... we need to stop sensationalizing everything.

unless women, children and men are being forced into prostitution, i don't give a rat's ass. she did it voluntarily and she did it for money. people do all sorts of things for money. yawn.

[WalkandJog]

Regardless of why she claims she did it, it was all about the money. She and her husband were obviously having financial problems, and her husband knew about her escorting and let her do it.

It's always all about the money. She worked in real estate and as of late that profession has tanked, so it makes sense that she and her husband had to find other ways to earn a living to pay the bills and the mortgage of their $600,000 home. Someone as famous as Suzy could have reached out to the T&F community for work or some type of income generating gig. But prostitution????

Now all she has to do is sell the rights to her interview to People, US or the Star for six figures, write a tell-all book for a million dollars, and sell the movie rights for more. She'll be crying all the way to the bank, so in the end she lost her reputation as little miss perfect, but in this age of celebrity obsession, she'll actually go over the top as a genuine mainstream celebrity, if she plays her cards right. Of course, being a celebrity is not necessarily good, and Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton became famous for being in porno videos, but it made them a fortune.

[Flumpy]

I guess the New York Daily News wins the contest for most creative/tackiest newspaper headline. They wrote (in blazing 60-point type, of course) "On Your Mark, Get Set, Ho!"

That's awful but genius at the same time!!!

[Marlow]

Regardless of why she claims she did it, it was all about the money. She and her husband were obviously having financial problems, and her husband knew about her escorting and let her do it. . . . It's always all about the money.

Sadly, I'm convinced it is NOT about the money. Money is a rationalization, and it's a great corroborating reason, but complex psychological problems are at the root of this. It usually starts with an unhealthy need for attention and affection, ways to build self-esteem. As with greedy people, there's never enough money; with others, there's never enough attention and affection. As beautiful and popular as she was, it wasn't enough.

I really, really hope she doesn't hit the talk show circuit as Marion did. Marion made herself only more pitiable in the process. If Suzy does it too, it just continues the 'prostitution'.

There's no need to judge Suzy here; her judgement comes from herself and her family/friends, who actually know her. They just need to help her now. I, like almost everyone else posting here, was in her thrall - her beauty, grace, style, but now I just see a broken woman who needs a lot of help to get through this in one piece.

[Tuariki]

Much ado about nothing.
Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.
According to the NZ Truth, the main newspaper where the selling of favors is advertised; a full favor is about $160 an hour and a part favor about $60.

Good old overweight and not particularly attractive Monica turned her free partial favor into $10 million plus. Not a bad return on her favourite blue $200 dress all because her favor giving hit the headlines. And remember she gave her favor for free, because no one in their right mind would pay $600 an hour for such favors from her.

But now we have the real deal; a real bona fide Favor - ana a beautiful Favor at that. And now that this Favor has made the headlines there will be plenty of rich American males (and Arabs, and Japanese, and Europeans) and in fact make that rich men all over the world who will now pay a lot more than $600 an hour for a chance to sample in a now world famous favor.

Bill Clinton only did what 50 percent of American men do and 45 percent wish they were doing. The other 5 percent are gay.

[Tuariki]

OMG I also forgot to tell you guys I am spending several days over New Years in Las Vegas. Taking my tribe of kids and grandkids, 12 of us, to see my in laws. We are staying at Circus Circus.
So now I am saving up an extra $600 in case I have a free hour to spare. It will of course be a Herculean challenge to find that free hour but having once upon a time been a reasonable broad jumper I am sure I am still up for the challenge.

Don't listen to my misses on that subject. She's American and she will just tell you guys lies about that subject.

[aaronk]

In Sweden it is not illegal to provide sex for money. It is however illegal here to buy sex. Even morally the person providing sex for money is considered here as "the exploited." The person buying sex is "the exploiter." So what exactly has SFH done that is wrong?

If part of her sacred wedding vows to her husband was to blow guys for cash and on occasion to make a little extra cash, have anal intercourse with a sweaty business man from Cleveland, then she has done nothing wrong.

Garry Hill, would you please explain to me WHY......

the above comment by SQUACKEE was allowed to be posted...and then REMAIN posted.....

and the comments by Conor Dary (about the movie "Belle de Jour")....
and MY comment on Conor's about two movies about "escorts" I'd seen......
and another's (Can't recall his/her name!) comment to me, saying Jennifer Anniston would be good to play Suzy in a movie....

why OUR comments were DELETED??

SQUACKEE, your comment is beyond anything we know as common human decency!!

[Tuariki]

In Sweden it is not illegal to provide sex for money. It is however illegal here to buy sex. Even morally the person providing sex for money is considered here as "the exploited." The person buying sex is "the exploiter." So what exactly has SFH done that is wrong?

If part of her sacred wedding vows to her husband was to blow guys for cash and on occasion to make a little extra cash, have anal intercourse with a sweaty business man from Cleveland, then she has done nothing wrong.

Garry Hill, would you please explain to me WHY......

the above comment by SQUACKEE was allowed to be posted...and then REMAIN posted.....

and the comments by Conor Dary (about the movie "Belle de Jour")....
and MY comment on Conor's about two movies about "escorts" I'd seen......
and another's (Can't recall his/her name!) comment to me, saying Jennifer Anniston would be good to play Suzy in a movie....

why OUR comments were DELETED??

SQUACKEE, your comment is beyond anything we know as common human decency!!

God has never felt the need to explain himself and neither does GH. They don't have to.

[aaronk]

Much ado about nothing.
Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.
According to the NZ Truth, the main newspaper where the selling of favors is advertised; a full favor is about $160 an hour and a part favor about $60.

Good old overweight and not particularly attractive Monica turned her free partial favor into $10 million plus. Not a bad return on her favourite blue $200 dress all because her favor giving hit the headlines. And remember she gave her favor for free, because no one in their right mind would pay $600 an hour for such favors from her.

But now we have the real deal; a real bona fide Favor - ana a beautiful Favor at that. And now that this Favor has made the headlines there will be plenty of rich American males (and Arabs, and Japanese, and Europeans) and in fact make that rich men all over the world who will now pay a lot more than $600 an hour for a chance to sample in a now world famous favor.

Bill Clinton only did what 50 percent of American men do and 45 percent wish they were doing. The other 5 percent are gay.

I give to TUARIKI the following:

Award for BEST WRITING in the Suzy Favor thread.
Award for MOST INTERESTING contribution to the Suzy Favor thread.
Award for MOST CREATIVE comment on the Suzy Favor thread.

From here on, this award shall be named "The TUARIKI"!!

[Tuariki]

Much ado about nothing.
Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.
According to the NZ Truth, the main newspaper where the selling of favors is advertised; a full favor is about $160 an hour and a part favor about $60.

Good old overweight and not particularly attractive Monica turned her free partial favor into $10 million plus. Not a bad return on her favourite blue $200 dress all because her favor giving hit the headlines. And remember she gave her favor for free, because no one in their right mind would pay $600 an hour for such favors from her.

But now we have the real deal; a real bona fide Favor - ana a beautiful Favor at that. And now that this Favor has made the headlines there will be plenty of rich American males (and Arabs, and Japanese, and Europeans) and in fact make that rich men all over the world who will now pay a lot more than $600 an hour for a chance to sample in a now world famous favor.

Bill Clinton only did what 50 percent of American men do and 45 percent wish they were doing. The other 5 percent are gay.

I give to TUARIKI the following:

Award for BEST WRITING in the Suzy Favor thread.
Award for MOST INTERESTING contribution to the Suzy Favor thread.
Award for MOST CREATIVE comment on the Suzy Favor thread.

From here on, this award shall be named "The TUARIKI"!!

Thanks Aaronk on behalf of a grateful nation and those without Olympic medals I humbly accept.
With this award and $600 I can now go get me a favor.

[Dutra5]

In Sweden it is not illegal to provide sex for money. It is however illegal here to buy sex. Even morally the person providing sex for money is considered here as "the exploited." The person buying sex is "the exploiter." So what exactly has SFH done that is wrong?

If part of her sacred wedding vows to her husband was to blow guys for cash and on occasion to make a little extra cash, have anal intercourse with a sweaty business man from Cleveland, then she has done nothing wrong.

Garry Hill, would you please explain to me WHY......

the above comment by SQUACKEE was allowed to be posted...and then REMAIN posted.....

and the comments by Conor Dary (about the movie "Belle de Jour")....
and MY comment on Conor's about two movies about "escorts" I'd seen......
and another's (Can't recall his/her name!) comment to me, saying Jennifer Anniston would be good to play Suzy in a movie....

why OUR comments were DELETED??

Just a guess....opportunity?

[Conor Dary]

Just a guess....opportunity?

What does that mean?

[Marlow]

Much ado about nothing. Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.

Just so I'm getting this straight . . . in New Zealand, it's NO BIG DEAL (your 'much ado about nothing') that a wife and mother has sex for money with strangers. Oh, really. I think you are gravely mistaken.

[Dutra5]

Just a guess....opportunity?

What does that mean?

I don't pretend to know what GH's schedule looks like from day to day but it's quite possible he has not been online since early this morning.

[odelltrclan]

Much ado about nothing. Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.

Just so I'm getting this straight . . . in New Zealand, it's NO BIG DEAL (your 'much ado about nothing') that a wife and mother has sex for money with strangers. Oh, really. I think you are gravely mistaken.

Maybe this is exactly how his family able to afford a trip to Las Vegas next week.

[Marlow]

Maybe this is exactly how his family able to afford a trip to Las Vegas next week.

Are you thinking about the 7-year-old daughter and how this is going to play out for her in the near- and long-term?

[odelltrclan]

Maybe this is exactly how his family able to afford a trip to Las Vegas next week.

Are you thinking about the 7-year-old daughter and how this is going to play out for her in the near- and long-term?

I am talking about Tauriki's trip, not Suzi's. Tauriki mentioned he was coming to Vegas. If he is willing to allow his wife extra-curricular activities to contribute to the family budget (and judging by his posts he may very well be) I guess that is his prerogative. It goes against the norm but that is their choice.

Just so you know, I am in agreement with you on your moral issues. I just don't see much of a need to discuss it here. Too many people in these circles are put off on any mention of morality and what is right and wrong. Its her life, let her decide her destination.

I do feel sorry for her daughter and her husband (if he is an unwilling participant). I can only imagine the backlash they are going to hear and receive over the years. But she has made her choices and she (and they) must take the consequences that follow. Just as it applies to all of us. We all fight our demons as best we can, but, unlike us, for someone like her, the whole world knows.

[TN1965]

oh my freaking mackerel,

WHO CARES?

i'm just shocked anyone would pay that much for sex. reminds me of gov. spitzer's scandal. now he's a respected tv commentator... we need to stop sensationalizing everything.

unless women, children and men are being forced into prostitution, i don't give a rat's ass. she did it voluntarily and she did it for money. people do all sorts of things for money. yawn.

I am afraid SFH will not be as lucky as Spitzer in rehabilitating her image. I hope I am wrong, but our society has a double standard regarding sexual morality.

[Marlow]

I am talking about Tauriki's trip, not Suzi's.

Mia apologia!

[Tuariki]

Much ado about nothing. Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.

Just so I'm getting this straight . . . in New Zealand, it's NO BIG DEAL (your 'much ado about nothing') that a wife and mother has sex for money with strangers. Oh, really. I think you are gravely mistaken.

Come on Marlow - get your head out of the sand and look around you.

At least in New Zealand we are somewhat more "honest" than say those Americans who hide behind a pseudo religious Christian facade of hypocrisy when it comes to sexual mores.

Which country in the world has the most members of sites such as Adult Friend Finder with literally millions of couples looking for out of relationship connections? The USA by a country mile.

I have lost count of the USA based hypocrites who,from the pulpits of their money making self enrichment churches, preach the evils of sex outside of marriage, who are then discovered to be serial practitioners of the very evil they preach against. Ditto the outspoken politicians on the same subject - whether it be a new Jersey Governor, a New Your Governor a weeny little Congressman or whatever. A bit like the Catholic Church and priests with their choir boys.

What Suzy Favor did was her business - and of course her family's. She sure as hell didn't hurt any of her clients - except in the pocket. If she has hurt her husband then that is a matter between them. If the media reports are correct that he has known about Las Vegas business activities for quite some time then presumably whatever hurt he felt was being compensated by the money being earned. But whatever the situation, whatever the reason, it is none of the business of the moralists preaching on this message board.

It is said if you live in a glass house don't throw stones. Based on statistical probabilities I imagine that more than one or two of the moralists on this message board live or have lived in a glass house.

Having had the privilege of being able to compete internationally what Suzy Favor did was not a lot different than what went on in hotels and games villages. The only real difference was $600.

[Tuariki]

Maybe this is exactly how his family able to afford a trip to Las Vegas next week.

Are you thinking about the 7-year-old daughter and how this is going to play out for her in the near- and long-term?

I am talking about Tauriki's trip, not Suzi's. Tauriki mentioned he was coming to Vegas. If he is willing to allow his wife extra-curricular activities to contribute to the family budget (and judging by his posts he may very well be) I guess that is his prerogative. It goes against the norm but that is their choice.

Just so you know, I am in agreement with you on your moral issues. I just don't see much of a need to discuss it here. Too many people in these circles are put off on any mention of morality and what is right and wrong. Its her life, let her decide her destination.

I do feel sorry for her daughter and her husband (if he is an unwilling participant). I can only imagine the backlash they are going to hear and receive over the years. But she has made her choices and she (and they) must take the consequences that follow. Just as it applies to all of us. We all fight our demons as best we can, but, unlike us, for someone like her, the whole world knows.

To Odelltrclan
First, as much as my wife of 39 years would love to think she could command a $600 an hour price tag it is unlikely we would be able to pay for the trip on the back of any such earnings.

Rather I put it down to hard word and successful business that literally involves all the adult members of my family.

Your unfortunate preachings behind the cloak of anonymity have all the hallmarks of those upright pillars of society and religious scions from the 1980s such as Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Bakker. And those of the past 2 years such as Vaughn Reeves, Stephen Green, Albert Odulele, Allan Cundick, David Yonggi Cho, Jason Russell, Kong Hee, and Jack Schaap.

Those who preach loudest often tend to be the worst offenders. Remember, it takes 2 to tango. How much more fun it would be to have the names published of those who handed over $600.

One thing you are right about though - "its her life, let decide her destination".

[Marlow]

Much ado about nothing. Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.

Just so I'm getting this straight . . . in New Zealand, it's NO BIG DEAL (your 'much ado about nothing') that a wife and mother has sex for money with strangers. Oh, really. I think you are gravely mistaken.

Come on Marlow - get your head out of the sand and look around you.

You didn't answer the question: New Zealanders have no issue with their moms and wives being prostitutes, right? Think real hard . . .

[SQUACKEE]

[quote="Tuariki"][

mmmm I am so confused, what Suzy did was honest and no big deal, but she said it was a horrible mistake and feels terrible about the people she hurt and is seeking help from professionals.... maybe she is lying?... I just cant connect these dots, I am so confused!

[Tuariki]

I am afraid SFH will not be as lucky as Spitzer in rehabilitating her image. I hope I am wrong, but our society has a double standard regarding sexual morality.

True that.

A classic double standard. Arnold Schwarzenegger was able to parlay the hundreds of women he bedded (and out-of bedded) into a badge of wink-wink honor when he first ran for Governor. Of course he eventually went one bed too far.

I am not sure if Monica was able to rehabilitate her image but she sure as hell was able to rehabilitate her bank account with a mouthful of dollars.

[Tuariki]

Much ado about nothing. Here in little old NZ selling favors is quite legal; and quite a bit cheaper.

Just so I'm getting this straight . . . in New Zealand, it's NO BIG DEAL (your 'much ado about nothing') that a wife and mother has sex for money with strangers. Oh, really. I think you are gravely mistaken.

Come on Marlow - get your head out of the sand and look around you.

You didn't answer the question: New Zealanders have no issue with their moms and wives being prostitutes, right? Think real hard . . .

I don't have to think hard, in fact even think, on this subject.
You are the one in your self righteous moralizing who is making that connection, that assumption.

What I am saying is that most New Zealanders, like most of the rest of the developed world, are not going to sit around in self righteous moralistic judgment of someone like Suzy Favor.

New Zealand has legalised prostitution because of recognition that:
1. Only the woman selling the service were breaking the law
2. It was men who created the demand for such service be available
3. Many of the clients inhabited the highest realms of New Zealand society - politicians, judges, priests and the like (just like the USA).

I love the USA, I am grateful for all the opportunities that the USA gave me. However, I get tired of the many double moral standards the the USA operates under; prostitution being just one of them. Water boarding torture is OK if the USA government does it in a country other than the USA; holding people for years in Guantanamo with trial or charges is OK because they are not in the USA (even though the Government tells Cuba it is part of the USA).

It makes me angry because the USA is better than that.