Ennis to drop Hept?


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Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby Daisy » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:49 am

She might focus on the hurdles for Rio.

“I love the hurdles and I surprised myself running that time,” Ennis told Huff Post UK Sport. “So I would love to do it in the future and see what I can do.

“This year’s going to be the heptathlon again, definitely, but in the future I want to give it a go and see what I can do. It would be nice just to do a different event as well.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11 ... 88465.html


When is the best time to switch?
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:34 am

Daisy wrote:She might focus on the hurdles for Rio. When would she make the swicth?

“I love the hurdles and I surprised myself running that time,” Ennis told Huff Post UK Sport. “So I would love to do it in the future and see what I can do.

“This year’s going to be the heptathlon again, definitely, but in the future I want to give it a go and see what I can do. It would be nice just to do a different event as well.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11 ... 88465.html


When is the best time to switch?


When there are no longer half a dozen gals able to run 12.4 or better.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby eldanielfire » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:54 am

Indeed. I'm not sure Ennis has a whole lot more hurdles speed in her. On the same track there were 3 clear faster hurdlers in their semi's, let alone the final. Sure with total focus Ennis might go faster but I doube she wold shave off more than 1/10th of a second and some heptathletes have shown no improvement when they concnetrate on one event. An example is Kluft seemed to jump shorter distances when she focused on the long jump, however I suspect this may have been in part due to her body starting to break down.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby j-a-m » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:43 pm

Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby tgs3 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:21 pm

I don't see how her quote can be interpreted as anything besides she might do the hurdles in addition to the heptathlon, not instead of.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:38 pm

I spoke to Sally Pearson at the weekend about Jess' hurdles, she thinks she has great potential but warns that there is a difference doing rounds

I would assume that with Jess' multi background this may not be so much of an issue. I can imagine that with undivided attention on this event she could get down to say 12.4 which is always good enough for medals and often for gold ones :D
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby t_monk » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:14 pm

mump boy wrote:I spoke to Sally Pearson at the weekend about Jess' hurdles, she thinks she has great potential but warns that there is a difference doing rounds

I would assume that with Jess' multi background this may not be so much of an issue. I can imagine that with undivided attention on this event she could get down to say 12.4 which is always good enough for medals and often for gold ones :D


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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby 18.99s » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:14 pm

mump boy wrote:I spoke to Sally Pearson at the weekend about Jess' hurdles, she thinks she has great potential but warns that there is a difference doing rounds

I would assume that with Jess' multi background this may not be so much of an issue. I can imagine that with undivided attention on this event she could get down to say 12.4 which is always good enough for medals and often for gold ones :D

However, the 100h is the very first event of the heptathlon, so her performance in it with fresh legs doesn't necessarily translate to what she'd do after rounds. If the 100h were on day 2 of the hep, it would be much more indicative of what she can do after rounds.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:48 pm

18.99s wrote:
mump boy wrote:I spoke to Sally Pearson at the weekend about Jess' hurdles, she thinks she has great potential but warns that there is a difference doing rounds

I would assume that with Jess' multi background this may not be so much of an issue. I can imagine that with undivided attention on this event she could get down to say 12.4 which is always good enough for medals and often for gold ones :D

However, the 100h is the very first event of the heptathlon, so her performance in it with fresh legs doesn't necessarily translate to what she'd do after rounds. If the 100h were on day 2 of the hep, it would be much more indicative of what she can do after rounds.


My point wasn't that she could transfer seamlessly just easier than others who may one a one off race in DL

She can run 22.8 at the end of a full day, i think this is more says a lot more about her recovery abilities
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby Gabriella » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:46 am

Forget dropping the heptathlon, get her in our bleedin' 4 x4 team! We needed her in London and I have every confidence that she would have run faster than Cox or McConnell's splits. Jess was in 11.3/22.8/2:08 form, compared to Sotherton in Beijing 23.4/2:07 who ran a 50.3 split. I had a tweet exchange with Jess's coach before London and he agreed Jess would run faster than 50.3 and he would love her to do a 400 leg but she would not have any of it!

Maybe in London it would not have been a good idea after the come down of her gold, but come Moscow, if we are in a similar position of being one or two women down in the 4x4, and Jess is in sprint form, draft her in on the second or third leg!

Ohuruogu to Ennis to McConnell to Shakes Drayton would have run 2 secs quicker IMO
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:45 am

Gabriella wrote:Forget dropping the heptathlon, get her in our bleedin' 4 x4 team! We needed her in London and I have every confidence that she would have run faster than Cox or McConnell's splits. Jess was in 11.3/22.8/2:08 form, compared to Sotherton in Beijing 23.4/2:07 who ran a 50.3 split. I had a tweet exchange with Jess's coach before London and he agreed Jess would run faster than 50.3 and he would love her to do a 400 leg but she would not have any of it!

Maybe in London it would not have been a good idea after the come down of her gold, but come Moscow, if we are in a similar position of being one or two women down in the 4x4, and Jess is in sprint form, draft her in on the second or third leg!

Ohuruogu to Ennis to McConnell to Shakes Drayton would have run 2 secs quicker IMO


Haha

it's funny how everything always comes back to the w4x4 :lol: :?
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:26 am

j-a-m wrote:
Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.

I wonder if a Brit would consider the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow not to be a major championship.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:38 am

tandfman wrote:
j-a-m wrote:
Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.

I wonder if a Brit would consider the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow not to be a major championship.


As it's at home and the Euros are every 2 years now i would expect CWG 2014 to be a priority in 2014 but in no way can they be called a major champs
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:08 am

mump boy wrote:As it's at home and the Euros are every 2 years now i would expect CWG 2014 to be a priority in 2014 but in no way can they be called a major champs

Not to you and to me, but I suspect that because it's at home, the British media are going to make a very big deal of the CWG. Her fans and sponsors (and potential sponsors) will likely create an environment of enthusiasm that she will get caught up in. Those Games may not be a major championships in a global sense, but she may very well treat them as if they were.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:50 pm

I think it is a great compliment to have a potential top place in possibly the most heavily contested event that is quite deep. It seems in the Hept she is a top-three whenever un-injured while the 100h is work to make the final. However, she has top medals there now and the WR is probably unreachable, so a new challenge that is less stressful than defending the Hept crown is a reasonable decision. If it will keep her in the sport a few more years, I am especially for it.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:07 am

Gabriella wrote:Forget dropping the heptathlon, get her in our bleedin' 4 x4 team! We needed her in London and I have every confidence that she would have run faster than Cox or McConnell's splits. Jess was in 11.3/22.8/2:08 form, compared to Sotherton in Beijing 23.4/2:07 who ran a 50.3 split. I had a tweet exchange with Jess's coach before London and he agreed Jess would run faster than 50.3 and he would love her to do a 400 leg but she would not have any of it!

Maybe in London it would not have been a good idea after the come down of her gold, but come Moscow, if we are in a similar position of being one or two women down in the 4x4, and Jess is in sprint form, draft her in on the second or third leg!

Ohuruogu to Ennis to McConnell to Shakes Drayton would have run 2 secs quicker IMO


Sounds good in theory, but does Christine ever run that great in a 4x400m? Not a criticism but some athletes seem to be better relay runners and some work as individuals. Christine, despite being miles ahead as out best 400m runner doesn't seem to be able to push herself in a relay for some reason.

What do we thnk Kat J-T could be like? She's a 2:10 800m, only a tad slower than Ennis and likely to rapidly improve.

On the other hand, none of this will get GB closer to the USA, Russia or Jamaica and the Ukraine seem to be getting better and better in their sprints these days.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:04 pm

Her World Indoor 4x400 anchor was well run, holding off none other than SRR.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:17 pm

26mi235 wrote:Her World Indoor 4x400 anchor was well run, holding off none other than SRR.


That was Perri
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:34 pm

mump boy wrote:
26mi235 wrote:Her World Indoor 4x400 anchor was well run, holding off none other than SRR.


That was Perri


Opps, did she have the leg that put them in the lead?
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:06 am

26mi235 wrote:
mump boy wrote:
26mi235 wrote:Her World Indoor 4x400 anchor was well run, holding off none other than SRR.


That was Perri


Opps, did she have the leg that put them in the lead?


Yes but that was mainly because she was against really slow runners. She got loads of praise for that run but only for doing what normal 4x4 runners always do, fight to the very end. It was nothing spectacular just suprising for her :?



3:28.76 Great Britain & N.I. 1 Istanbul 11.03.2012

Shana Cox (52.82) 22.01.85 GBR
Nicola Sanders (52.48) 23.06.82 GBR
Christine Ohuruogu (51.98) 17.05.84 GBR
Perri Shakes-Drayton (51.48) 21.12.88 GBR

3:28.79 United States 2 Istanbul 11.03.2012

Leslie Cole (52.59) 16.02.87 USA
Natasha Hastings (51.33) 23.07.86 USA
Jernail Hayes (53.52) 08.07.88 USA
Sanya Richards-Ross (51.35) 26.02.85 USA

3:29.55 Russia 3 Istanbul 11.03.2012

Yuliya Gushchina (52.15) 04.03.83 RUS
Kseniya Ustalova (51.99) 14.01.88 RUS
Marina Karnaushchenko (53.30) 02.10.88 RUS
Aleksandra Fedoriva (52.11) 13.09.88 RUS

She ran a rather unspectacular 51.98 but she was up against Jernail Hayes and Marina Karnaushchenko (Who ??) who both ran outside of 53 sec, it just made her run look a lot better than it was
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby Jake » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:55 am

j-a-m wrote:
Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.



There are two major international championships in 2014: the Commonwealth Games and the European Championships.
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby mump boy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:38 am

Jake wrote:
j-a-m wrote:
Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.



There are two major international championships in 2014: the Commonwealth Games and the European Championships.


Neither of which can be considered major anymore :(
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Re: Ennis to drop Hept?

Postby eldanielfire » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:17 am

mump boy wrote:
Jake wrote:
j-a-m wrote:
Daisy wrote:When is the best time to switch?

2014, the year without a major championship; maybe not so much to switch, but to give it a try and keep your options open for 2015/2016.



There are two major international championships in 2014: the Commonwealth Games and the European Championships.


Neither of which can be considered major anymore :(


3rd Tier, but still big. Still watched and enjoyed by millions. And in throwing events, mid-distance runs and Heptathlon we can legitimately say the best in the world will be competiting.
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