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Van Cortlandt Park

Postby KDFINE » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:21 am

There is a very nice full page article in today's New York Times by Marc Bloom about x-country at Van Cortlandt Park in the Bronx. It includes a really nice photo of St. John's Pete Close crossing the finish line at a 1957 race. The caption identifies him, but he is not mentioned in the body of the article. For those of you who don't recognize his name, Close was a surprise 1500 Olympian in 1960, and was later the Athletic Director at M.I.T.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:10 pm

Thanks for the heads up and the link.

Not sure about the identification of the years in some of those photos btw. Looks more mid '60's than '56ish.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:36 am

In appropriate timing, we have this story (link on Home page).

"Christian Brothers Academy, the No. 1-ranked team in the nation, continued its record-breaking barrage with a performance for the ages when it broke the course-record average at the 40th Manhattan Invitational yesterday at Van Cortlandt Park.

And reigning national champion Edward Cheserek of St. Benedict’s Prep nearly broke his record in the same race when he won the Eastern States Championship in 11:58.7, No. 2 all-time over the historic 2.5-mile layout." [to his 11:56 of last year]
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby no one » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:57 am

article states the invitational @ Van Cort is biggest in US. I was always told that Mt SAC was. Have I been misled?
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:16 pm

Biggest one-day... (NYTimes story)

MtSAC races:

Elementary and Middle Schools October 12, 2012
High School -Divisions III, IV, V October 19, 2012
High School -Divisions I, II October 20, 2012
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby Dutra5 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:27 pm

26mi235 wrote:In appropriate timing, we have this story (link on Home page).

"Christian Brothers Academy, the No. 1-ranked team in the nation, continued its record-breaking barrage with a performance for the ages when it broke the course-record average at the 40th Manhattan Invitational yesterday at Van Cortlandt Park.

And reigning national champion Edward Cheserek of St. Benedict’s Prep nearly broke his record in the same race when he won the Eastern States Championship in 11:58.7, No. 2 all-time over the historic 2.5-mile layout." [to his 11:56 of last year]


I'm not sure they're running the same course...at least not exactly. Looks as if the finish is down the college finish area rather than the old (pre park upgrade) high school finish area.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby dj » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:34 am

Dutra5 wrote:Thanks for the heads up and the link.

Not sure about the identification of the years in some of those photos btw. Looks more mid '60's than '56ish.


Nope, the dating of the photos is accurate. Photos 1 and 3 are those that ran with the New York Times's meet story.

Photo 1 is the 1956 IC4A, at a little short of three-quarters of a mile. Winner Henry Kennedy of Michigan State and runner-up Lew Stieglitz of UConn are out of frame, ahead of the pack. La Salle's Earl Jefferson (12, third digit not visible) is on the outside of the lead group, and farther back on the outside in a dark top is a Villanovan, Alex Breckenridge I think.

Photo 3 is from the B race of the St. John's University Interscholastic race in 1956. Archbishop Stepinac's George Verdisco is leading here and won with the fastest time of the day, 13:26.5.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby no one » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:15 am

26 - thanks, 'mystery' solved
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby Dutra5 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:06 pm

dj wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:Thanks for the heads up and the link.

Not sure about the identification of the years in some of those photos btw. Looks more mid '60's than '56ish.


Nope, the dating of the photos is accurate. Photos 1 and 3 are those that ran with the New York Times's meet story.

Photo 1 is the 1956 IC4A, at a little short of three-quarters of a mile. Winner Henry Kennedy of Michigan State and runner-up Lew Stieglitz of UConn are out of frame, ahead of the pack. La Salle's Earl Jefferson (12, third digit not visible) is on the outside of the lead group, and farther back on the outside in a dark top is a Villanovan, Alex Breckenridge I think.

Photo 3 is from the B race of the St. John's University Interscholastic race in 1956. Archbishop Stepinac's George Verdisco is leading here and won with the fastest time of the day, 13:26.5.


Thanks for the history lesson. What's scary is that some of the uniforms are the same as the uniforms I ran against beginning in the early 70's. Hope a new set was ordered somewhere along the line.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby MightyBurner » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:29 pm

Big East Championships are there this year.
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Re: Van Cortlandt Park

Postby Halfmiler2 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:02 pm

As someone who was merely trying to survive the cross country season to get in shape for track, I didn't mind the Van Cortland course (2.5 miles) because the uphill was mostly in the first half of the race. The final straight (700 yards?), however, did seem to go on and on and on. It was one of the few places during the season that your time in a cross counntry race actually meant something.

The big weekend meets like the Manhattan Invitational seemed to have endless (and large)races. I also recall our team once going over for a dual meet on a weekday afternoon in the 1970s and the scene was chaotic. All sorts of teams and runners - high school and college - just sort of showed up and ran on the course whether for practice or competition. We lined up against the team we were supposed to face and off we went trying to keep an eye out for the uniforms of our two teams. At the finish, our coaches were there to record the places.
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