How do you pronounce Missouri?


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How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:33 am

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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:36 pm

Louisville = Loo'-uh-vul (very short u in vul)
New Orleans = Naw'lins
New York = N'yawk'
Boston = Bah'-stin
Oregon = Or'gan
Missouri = Miz-er'-ah
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Baltimore = Bawl-uh-more

No, that's wrong. It's more like Bawl-uh-mer. The middle syllable is buried. Sometimes sounds more like Bawl-mer.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:08 pm

Marlow wrote:Oregon = Or'gan

I think it may be closer to OR-ee-gun
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Friar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:32 pm

New York = N'yawk'

I'm glad Saratoga has largely been spared this atrocious ear assault.

I always thought the rule of thumb was St.Louis NE was Missouri and SL West was Missou-ra?
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:07 pm

tandfman wrote:
Marlow wrote:Oregon = Or'gan

I think it may be closer to OR-ee-gun

That's how out-of-staters say it.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Friar wrote:I always thought the rule of thumb was St.Louis NE was Missouri and SL West was Missou-ra?

St. Louis = Saint Loo'-ee (but a little shorter than the ee as in heel)
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby kuha » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:31 pm

Purely subjective, but I think there's some "rural" connection with Miz-our-rah vs. urban with Miz-our-ri.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:39 pm

kuha wrote:Purely subjective

Not subjective, per se, but certainly locally dialectic. In his Introduction to Huck Finn, Samuel Clemens, as Mark Twain, took pains to explain that the odd spellings of local Missouri dialects in the book were true-to-life variations on how people, perhaps only 50 miles geographically differentiated, said things differently.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Conor Dary » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:39 pm

Marlow wrote:
tandfman wrote:
Marlow wrote:Oregon = Or'gan

I think it may be closer to OR-ee-gun

That's how out-of-staters say it.


Orygun!
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Conor Dary » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:45 pm

Of course we could do this for English towns:

Hereford, Shrewsbury, and Nottingham for instance.

Of course, Hereford St. is the penultimate street in the Boston Marathon, which Bostonians, for the most part get right.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:58 pm

Conor Dary wrote:Of course we could do this for English towns

One of the funniest (and most bizarre) things that ever happened to me, happened in Towcester (pronounced "toaster" (!) ), England. I went into the local room-finder (that's a real thing in England!) and asked the guy for a room. He told me to pick up the white courtesy phone on the counter and explain my needs. I tried for TEN long minutes to explain that I just wanted a room for two for the night, but to no avail. In exasperation I gave the phone to the guy sitting there, who then said (allegedly) the same thing I had just said, but I could barely recognize the words as they came out of his mouth, even though they were the same 'words' I had just spoken. He just sheepishly shrugged his shoulders, and then gave me the info in perfectly enunciated Queen's English. Had I just witnessed Toasterese?
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby kuha » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:31 pm

Marlow wrote:
Conor Dary wrote:Of course we could do this for English towns

One of the funniest (and most bizarre) things that ever happened to me, happened in Towcester (pronounced "toaster" (!) ), England. I went into the local room-finder (that's a real thing in England!) and asked the guy for a room. He told me to pick up the white courtesy phone on the counter and explain my needs. I tried for TEN long minutes to explain that I just wanted a room for two for the night, but to no avail. In exasperation I gave the phone to the guy sitting there, who then said (allegedly) the same thing I had just said, but I could barely recognize the words as they came out of his mouth, even though they were the same 'words' I had just spoken. He just sheepishly shrugged his shoulders, and then gave me the info in perfectly enunciated Queen's English. Had I just witnessed Toasterese?


You were toast...but in a good way.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby cullman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:18 pm

Toronto = Tronto (rhymes with pronto)
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:45 pm

When I was growing up, the only way I ever heard Florida pronounced was FLAHR-id-uh. I was probably 20 when I met a native Foridian (not a transplanted Northerner) and heard him say it, and I learned that they pronounce it FLOOR-ee-duh down there. Definite difference in first two syllables.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby jeremyp » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:15 pm

tandfman wrote:When I was growing up, the only way I ever heard Florida pronounced was FLAHR-id-uh. I was probably 20 when I met a native Foridian (not a transplanted Northerner) and heard him say it, and I learned that they pronounce it FLOOR-ee-duh down there. Definite difference in first two syllables.

Not to mention "Miama." I remember being in South Carolina for boot camp and our drill sergeant used to say "Roay" for road.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby lonewolf » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:57 pm

My paternal grandfather was born in "Mizz-zuruh" pronounced "Mizz-zoorie"
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gh » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:31 pm

cullman wrote:Toronto = Tronto (rhymes with pronto)


not in my experience: it's Trawna.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby DrJay » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:11 am

Then there's the category that's so far off the mark it's not just a slurring of the sounds or letters.

In KY, Versailles= "Versales" (Spoken with a twangy Southern accent.)

IN CO, Pueblo= "Pieblo"
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:51 am

tandfman wrote:When I was growing up, the only way I ever heard Florida pronounced was FLAHR-id-uh. I was probably 20 when I met a native Foridian (not a transplanted Northerner) and heard him say it, and I learned that they pronounce it FLOOR-ee-duh down there. Definite difference in first two syllables.

Everyone I know here says: Flor'da. I never hear a middle syllable.
Out-of-staters always say the 'i' in the middle, however: Flor'-ih-da
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby br » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:44 am

Sam Yorty, the mayor of Los Angeles from 1961-1973, used to pronounce the name of his beloved city 'Los Ang-gah-leez'.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Conor Dary » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:15 am

DrJay wrote:Then there's the category that's so far off the mark it's not just a slurring of the sounds or letters.

In KY, Versailles= "Versales" (Spoken with a twangy Southern accent.)


Nearby Cairo, Illinois, the southern tip of the state is pronounced like the syrup, Karo.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gh » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:21 am

Roger Kingdom is from Vienna, Georgia (vye-enna, that is)
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:22 pm

Having lived outside of the City of Brotherly Love for a few years, I always got a kick out of how its denizens referred to it.

Fil-delf'-ya

:D

Yo, Adrian!

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Then there's the whole matter of how people near big cities refer to it.

Jacksonville = Jax
Tallahassee = Tally
Gainesville - G-ville
Chicago = Shy-Town
SanFran = (just) The City
Wash, DC = DC
Los Angeles = LA
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Pego » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:03 pm

My daughter lived in a Chicago area for 10 years. I never heard Shy Town.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:14 pm

Pego wrote:My daughter lived in a Chicago area for 10 years. I never heard Shy Town.

That's all my Navy buddies (stationed in Detroit) called it. Perhaps it was an affectation or belittlement.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby jhc68 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:19 pm

My dad was born and raised on a farm near Joplin in (as he said it) the state of Missourah. Then, again, he called Yucca Valley, California, Yawka Valley.
He was definitely rural and old school, having been born in 1897 or, as he invariably said, 18 AND 97. There was a grammatical shift at the turn of the century in my father's world... I was born in plain 1946 but he was born in 18 AND 97!!!
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gh » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:09 pm

Marlow wrote:
Pego wrote:My daughter lived in a Chicago area for 10 years. I never heard Shy Town.

That's all my Navy buddies (stationed in Detroit) called it. Perhaps it was an affectation or belittlement.


I've certainly heard Chy-Town many times.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby lonewolf » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:13 pm

gh wrote:[I've certainly heard Chy-Town many times.

Common trucker lingo from the CB days.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gh » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:23 pm

One of my all-time faves, as told to me by the late Leonard Hilton... Refugio, Texas, is pronounced ruh-furr-eeo
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gm » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:24 pm

gh wrote:One of my all-time faves, as told to me by the late Leonard Hilton... Refugio, Texas, is pronounced ruh-furr-eeo


You beat me to it...spent many a summer there, one of (if not THE) greatest small towns in the country for producing T&F talent.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:08 am

In downtown Manhattan (NY, not Kansas), there's a major street called Houston Street. New Yorkers pronounce it HOW-ston, not HYOU-ston or YOU-ston
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby preston » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:28 am

it's kind of unfair to include Massachussetts cities in the list. It might be fair to block out all of New England (if all you speak is American)

Gloucester - ain't glou-ces-ter or glow-ches-ster
Medford and New Bedford - sound nothing like "ford"
Peabody - don't sound like any "body"
And Worcester? Well, let me re "spell" it fawr ya, "wuh-sta"

And, as for Georgia. Well Dahlonega is not a sister pronunciation to Talladega (AL)
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:18 am

and the sentence "What's this, Worcestershire sauce?
is pronounced:
Whats-this-here-sauce? :D
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby tandfman » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:10 am

Speaking of Massachusetts, the h in Amherst is not pronounced. It's AM-erst.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby bad hammy » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:53 am

DrJay wrote:In KY, Versailles= "Versales" (Spoken with a twangy Southern accent.)

Same as a street in my current city, without the accent.

After growing up near Lafayette (LA fee et) CA I was humored in my Tennessee days to find myself down the road from Lafayette (luh FAY et). My guess is that they pronounce it totally differently in France.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Marlow » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:10 am

bad hammy wrote:My guess is that they pronounce it totally differently in France.

lahf'-ay-et.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby Conor Dary » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:57 am

tandfman wrote:Speaking of Massachusetts, the h in Amherst is not pronounced. It's AM-erst.


Massachusetts tends to follow UK pronunciations. Thus the h is silent in Birmingham, Nottingham, Amherst, Framingham etc.
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby br » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:54 am

Marlow wrote:
bad hammy wrote:My guess is that they pronounce it totally differently in France.

lahf'-ay-et.


'Lafayette' pronunciation in French.

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=lafayette

Sounds like Lah-FI-ette
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Re: How do you pronounce Missouri?

Postby gh » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:04 am

And I've heard Natchitoches, Louisiana, expressed as nasha-toosh
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