mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Is one of those Jessica Ennis?
Yes but how many of Mumps "contenders" will he state would be on his final Medal Prediction list... far from over 20 on the above list, I assume .
I reckon a total of 5/6 individual medals and no relay medals this time.Hope to be a bit undercooked but that the way I see it. Trust none of our Flag Wavers are too upset.
I think most events are really difficult to predict this year. For example in the mens 5/10k Mo looks in great form but apart from Eugene he hasn't raced anyone of note, so i have no idea how he will do but with home advantage have to make him prohibitive favourite.
Perri is =2nd in the world has a lot more to give and once again has home advantage but 400h is all over the place this year so she could win she could come 8th !! but once again i am going to stay positive.
Mens LJ is a mess, Mitchel Watt is my pick for gold but after that it's a toss up :-S
off the top of my head, with a bit of luck and wishful thinking
Gold
Mo Dai Jess
Silver
Mo TBO PSD Phillips (depending on injury !)
Bronze
m4x4 Robbie Greg w4x4 (depending on TBO !) Holly
I'm convinced there will be at least one surprise as well i don't mean Shara, Yami etc who are on the edge of medals anyway, i mean someone out of no where !!
My own view is that Britain are likely to win around 10 medals overall, involving three golds, but there is a fair chance of even 12 if Phillips Idowu is fully fit (which I think he is) and sharp and relays don't get into any sort of mess.
PSD, Christine Ohuruogu, Goldie Sayers, Shara Proctor and Yamile Aldama have confirmed themselves as serious medal contenders over the last few weeks, Steve Lewis cleared a UK record of 5.82 yesterday to go fifth in the world in the PV and Chris Tomlinson is showing better form at the right time and Jack Green can turn heads in the 400mh - watch this space!
Hannah England showed well improved as runner-up in a more tactical 1500m in 4:10.43 behind Jemma Simpson in Solihull yesterday (around 2:16 both at 800m) so she is already in around 4:06-4:07 form and making ground fast. Lisa Dobriskey also ran 4:05.27 midweek, on top of recent 4:02.13, so she is not that far off top gear either.
Andy Baddeley is a slight late worry picking up a couple of niggles since overhauling Ross Murray at the UK Champs but hopefully he'll be fully fit by the heats of the 1500m - he's been in the shape of is life this season. Not necessarily a medal hope yet but both he and Murray can surprise quite a few in London.
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Is one of those Jessica Ennis?
do you think she'll medal ?!!
I don't see her on your list of contenders... do you think she will medal?
norunner wrote:Looks like another medal contender just surfaced: Steven Lewis won at the Kuso Memorial in Poland with 5.82m.
Lewis had a good competition yesterday, but TBH, the clearance at 5.82 was a very lucky one.
It was? I watched it on TVP Sports and i don't really remember, but i thought it was a good clearance. Unfortunately they didn't show the NMH by Lavillenie and Mohr, would have been interesting in regards to London how they failed.
Van Commenee upbeat Athletics chief confident Britain can achieve medals target July 26, 2012 Van Commenee said, "... we have 15 athletes in the medal zone so our success is not dependent on one athlete. We still have a good number of athletes so we have a realistic chance to hit the target."
Who are van Commenee's 15 ?
Track & Field News' picks: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon)
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) 03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles 04.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 05.) Goldie Sayers (javelin) 06.) womens 4x400m 07.) mens 4x400m 08.) Perri Shakes Drayton 09.) a middle distance girl 10.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final 11.) Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) through to the final
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
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bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job?
mump boy's additions: ........ 02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) [through to final with 65.28m Q, 4th qualifier] 03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles [through to semi-final with 12.79 Q, 8th qualifier] ....... 10.) a middle distance girl [Hannah England through to semi-=final with 4:05.73 Q, 5th qualifier Lisa Dobriskey through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q, 19th qualifier Laura Weightman through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q, =15th qualifier] ........
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 03.) womens 4x400m 04.) mens 4x400m 05.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) through to the final 06.) Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) through to semi-final 07.) a middle distance girl • Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier • Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier • Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier 08.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)
*thanks Athleticsimaging
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bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?{/quote] Edit: Lot's of potential good news from the evening session.
van Commenee hopes so. Who, if anyone, fills the same postion for the US team?
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 1 jump through to the final 03.) womens 4x400m 04.) mens 4x400m 07.) a middle distance girl -- Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier -- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier -- Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final
bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th
07.) a middle distance girl Non-A, inexperienced, sole selection Lynsey Sharp 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place
out :: • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?
Athleticsimaging wrote:out :: • Goldie Sayers (javelin)Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th 02.) womens 4x400m 03.) mens 4x400m 06.) a middle distance girl -- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to the final -- Laura Weightman (1500) through to the final -- Lynsey Sharp (800m) 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final • Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th • Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final
*thanks Athleticsimaging
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Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's addition: 01.) womens 4x400m through to the final
out :: • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • mens 4x400m 4th • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th • Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th • Laura Weightman (1500) 11th • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Goldie Sayers (javelin) NM =last (Place de la Honte) • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final • Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final • Lynsey Sharp (800m) did not go through to final
*thanks Athleticsimaging and mump boy
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John G wrote:Can't understand people writing off the 4x400.
Have you looked at the current world rankings Athleticsimaging? The aggregate times of our 4 best is 3:00.34. The aggregate time for Bahamas is 3:00.83.
Allowing for rolling starts on 3 legs (worth approx 0.7 secs) we should be able to put out a team running low 2:58s NOW. Give them 6 more weeks to peak and add in Green and or Greene, then add the crowd factor and we should realistically hope to run in the 3:57s. It'll be close of course with Bahamas but we are, viewed objectively, joint second favourites.
You think Cuba will challenge that? Their national record is 2:59.13.
I think most people underestimated Bahamas but I'll give you Cuba and their DNF. Green(e)s? HA!
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) gold 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
out :: • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • mens 4x400m 4th • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th • Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th • Laura Weightman (1500) 11th • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Goldie Sayers (javelin) NM =last (Place de la Honte) • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final • Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final • Lynsey Sharp (800m) did not go through to final • womens 4x400m 5th
Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's: 4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze to Germany's 1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze
My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.
Tuariki wrote:Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's: 4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze to Germany's 1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.
Tuariki wrote:Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's: 4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze to Germany's 1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.
Okay... but do you retain van Commenee?
Well at least he gets his athletes entered into their events unlike NZ? I would never have hired a Dutchman to run British athletics in the first place.
UK Athletics urges Charles van Commenee not to quit 12 August 2012 "The head coach acknowledged that he has had his critics... and cracked a joke when asked if any athletes had put in telephone calls asking for him to stay. "Er, no. That should tell you something,"... "I am partially frustrated and I am partially embarrassed – especially when it comes to the relays ... and I've coached world and Olympic champions, but I've never had that emotion I had in that Golden Hour on that Super Saturday before, ever."
Placings table (from 1st to 8th position) taken from IAAF website for London looks like this: 4 1 1 3 3 2 2 3 Placings table Beijing was: 1 2 1 4 2 3 2 3
Two more medals but only one more top-8 position (19 vs. 18) which is a better indicator of the breadth of progress. I had expected more just from having home advantage and the hiring of top foreign coaches like Pfaff alone.
bushop wrote:UK Athletics urges Charles van Commenee not to quit 12 August 2012 "The head coach acknowledged that he has had his critics... and cracked a joke when asked if any athletes had put in telephone calls asking for him to stay. "Er, no. That should tell you something,"... "I am partially frustrated and I am partially embarrassed – especially when it comes to the relays ... and I've coached world and Olympic champions, but I've never had that emotion I had in that Golden Hour on that Super Saturday before, ever."
Maybe CVC should keep his mouth shut more often, and stop reeling off these stupid comments....
He's gone on record as saying he will quit if the UK don't get eight medals. But they got six...is that a failure? Would four silvers and four bronzes be better than a haul of six which includes four golds? If he'd any sense, his target would've been golds, instead of quantifying medals in one lump.
I thought it was a stupid statement then, and I think it's even stupider now that I can look back on it with hindsight. But CVC seems to have a penchant for saying idiotic things. Maybe it might be better for UK Athletics if he does stick to his stupid prediction....
I like that CVC came out and said what he wanted and put his name to it. Accountability for performance has been one of his core values as head coach and it would have been inappropriate had he not demanded the same from his own performance.
Denise Lewis thinks he'll go given the need for the post to commit to a 2017 five year plan when London host the Worlds. With this in mind I think he will go.
Michael Johnson commented on the BBC coverage that the culture change bought in by CVC was the most noticeable advance he'd made in his time as head coach and I think retaining that is what matters most.
