Marlow wrote:Odds are very high that SOMEone will drop (or at least disastrously bobble) the stick, leaving the other team to jet home to a comfortable win.
Unless they bump into each other and open the door for everyone else.
Marlow wrote:Odds are very high that SOMEone will drop (or at least disastrously bobble) the stick, leaving the other team to jet home to a comfortable win.
Unless they bump into each other and open the door for everyone else.
The key is that if both teams pass with the same (non)precision, Jamaica wins. The odds of that are slim indeed. The Jammis do have a slight cushion, but anything more than a slight wobble and the Amis win. A wobble by the Amis? Put jam (pun!) on them, cuz they're toast.
Marlow wrote:The key is that if both teams pass with the same (non)precision, Jamaica wins. The odds of that are slim indeed. The Jammis do have a slight cushion, but anything more than a slight wobble and the Amis win. A wobble by the Amis? Put jam (pun!) on them, cuz they're toast.
I disagree. I think will all things being equal that Jamaica is 3 - 4 tenths better than Team USA. It's going to take more than a slight wobble for the US to win.
Just did a quick calculation. If you were to create ONE team, made up of just Americans and Jamaicans, then by two measurements, only ONE American runner would make the "A" team!!
How much advantage do the Americans gain (or disadvantage to they make-up), if any, because neither Gatlin, Gay, nor Bailey are running the 200 (whereas Bolt and Blake are)?
Grasshopper wrote:How much advantage do the Americans gain (or disadvantage to they make-up), if any, because neither Gatlin, Gay, nor Bailey are running the 200 (whereas Bolt and Blake are)?
Should be a little bit of an advantage with the additional recovery time. Would also enable them to run the same team in prelims and final, but realistically not gonna happen.
Grasshopper wrote:How much advantage do the Americans gain (or disadvantage to they make-up), if any, because neither Gatlin, Gay, nor Bailey are running the 200 (whereas Bolt and Blake are)?
Should be a little bit of an advantage with the additional recovery time. Would also enable them to run the same team in prelims and final, but realistically not gonna happen.
Yea I think the prelim will have Patton on the turn.
Grasshopper wrote:Powell seems to have been injured in the 100m final. That changes everything, I think.
No it doesn't. Jamaica won and set a WR last year without Asafa last year in Daegu.. We can do it again. Both Bolt and Blake and much faster this year than last year.
That's pretty close and comes down to hand-offs. Will the 3 x 200m races have any effect on Blake and Bolt? If the batons get around the track without any major mistakes it'll be a race for the ages.
That's pretty close and comes down to hand-offs. Will the 3 x 200m races have any effect on Blake and Bolt? If the batons get around the track without any major mistakes it'll be a race for the ages.
Lol. Relays don't work by adding up numbers like that. lol.
Its simple, unless Jamaica has a dropped baton, we will not lose the mens 4 x 100m.
That's pretty close and comes down to hand-offs. Will the 3 x 200m races have any effect on Blake and Bolt? If the batons get around the track without any major mistakes it'll be a race for the ages.
Lol. Relays don't work by adding up numbers like that. lol.
Its simple, unless Jamaica has a dropped baton, we will not lose the mens 4 x 100m.
Why? Because you said so? The 2004 Athens final is proof that great teams on paper can beat by teams with vastly inferior footspeed WITHOUT dropping the baton.
tracknut2012 wrote:Lol. Relays don't work by adding up numbers like that. lol. Its simple, unless Jamaica has a dropped baton, we will not lose the mens 4 x 100m.
Yeah, actually they do, when both teams are equally (in)efficient at getting the baton around. The .2 second cushion that Jam has can disappear in one bad hand-off. All things being equal, Jam wins comfortably, but all things are NEVER equal in the Oly 4x1 final!
That's pretty close and comes down to hand-offs. Will the 3 x 200m races have any effect on Blake and Bolt? If the batons get around the track without any major mistakes it'll be a race for the ages.
Lol. Relays don't work by adding up numbers like that. lol.
Its simple, unless Jamaica has a dropped baton, we will not lose the mens 4 x 100m.
Is that like in 2004 where USA were sure to win? I do expect Jamaica to win though.
I don't like Bailey on Anchor. Would rather have them put Gay on anchor. Seems as if Powell won't be on the JA relay as he pulled up in the 100 meter final. The U.S. team can be competitive if they get good exchanges all around.
That's pretty close and comes down to hand-offs. Will the 3 x 200m races have any effect on Blake and Bolt? If the batons get around the track without any major mistakes it'll be a race for the ages.
Heck Naw... No disprespect to Patton as a person, but we have had too many mishaps on the 4x100 with the baton in his hands... It should be Kimmons, Gatlin, Gay, then Bailey.... In that order. Hopefully, we can get a 5 meter lead and hold off Bolt...
Phew!I get a funny feel that Jamaica are gonna drop the stick. They are on a fantastic role three years in a row, you just get the gut feeling that something is gonna give. Realy hope it does'nt though.