nbcolympics.com streaming (USA)

[tracknut2012]

Okay I'll look for them then.

Are you in the U.S. tracknut? Because I am and I was figuring I'd be IP blocked from seeing anything BBC. Like I've been blocked in my attempts to get anything CTV (Canada.)

But if you're in the U.S. I'll get to work on that. I'll know it's possible for me.

I am in the US. Check your message for the link.

[misterp]

How bad is NBC? Let's count:

1. For some reason, they showed the w100 final [i]before[i] the hep 800. What possible reason would they have to reverse the order.

2. They should have announced "spoiler alert" before running the Shelly-Ann Frasier human-interest piece. Nice piece, and she's terrific, but dollars to doughnuts they had similar pieces on each finalist, so they could manipulate the viewer into rooting for the winner just before they showed the final.

3. No women's PV qualifying, no wDiscus final.

4. Barely a mention of the US 100m runner who looked the best - Ryan Bailey. And they didn't show his heat.

5. NO 10K!!!

[tracknut2012]

How bad is NBC? Let's count:

1. For some reason, they showed the w100 final [i]before[i] the hep 800. What possible reason would they have to reverse the order.

2. They should have announced "spoiler alert" before running the Shelly-Ann Frasier human-interest piece. Nice piece, and she's terrific, but dollars to doughnuts they had similar pieces on each finalist, so they could manipulate the viewer into rooting for the winner just before they showed the final.

3. No women's PV qualifying, no wDiscus final.

4. Barely a mention of the US 100m runner who looked the best - Ryan Bailey. And they didn't show his heat.

5. NO 10K!!!

The reason why they offered a human interest story for Fraser is because she is the defending Olympic Champion and has the fastest time in the world this year so it does make sense.

[Jackaloupe]

5. NO 10K!!! Whoa, Sr. P, "they" (NBC) showed the entire 10K LIVE on the regular NBC TV Channel (not NBCSN). Not one to defend NBC, I was disgusted that during the Saturday Night Olympic summary you're obviously referring to, which the main sports "they" see fit to televise, they kicked in midway into the Final Lap! No sense of the positioning, shoving, back-and-forth of Mo and Galen, nada. Ludicrous for one of the more dramatic moments so far.

Then, of c(o)urse, they cut away from the Stadium w/o even mentioning the 100 mW Final that was about to start. [So I ducked (I'm in Oregon;~) back downstairs to the computer and watched it on the smaller screen.

As cited above, not even showing the 100m M Heats for either Powell or Bailey lame (at least they didn't highlight Merritt's 'lameness', barely mentioning that he was out).

As for those minor sports, it's bizarre that they'll show an entire Water Polo match and just about every Beach Volleyball game Americans are in, yet not show the likes of Bailey, "America's Answer to Usain Bolt" as some would have it, nor more than one minute of Rupp's breakthrough performance in showing the E. Africans how to sustain a kick.

[bruce3404]

I'm going to come in on NBC's side. They've given us the entire Olympics. They're providing individual links that allow one to see almost every throw, jump or heat. After AM day one, they're giving us British broadcasters on the main T&F field. How infinitely better this is than anything since Barcelona (and you had to pay for that)? Sure, I've had to play around with different browsers and sometimes scale down the resolution, but it's working! A big thank you to NBC for helping make this the most watchable Olympics in the last two decades with an assist to YouTube.

[misterp]

Thanks for correction, Jack. I've been watching my computer in the afternoon, enjoying the British, but yesterday, unavoidably, I was out doing errands all day. I got home at 7, studiously avoided seeing results, turned on TIVO at 8, worked for 1-1/2 hour, and sat down to watch track, fast-forwarding through beach volleyball etc. I didn't know the 10K was on live - actually, I'm not sure where you find out, unless you sit in front of the tube, flipping the dial. But not to mention the result in the prime-time show seems inexcusable.

Nut, you're right, it makes sense, but if Shelly-Ann had finished 6th, I bet we'd have seen a nice feature on Carmalita instead.

Bruce, the streaming T&F is terrific, when it works. It's almost triple-case. But the prime-time show is ghastly.

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Nut, you're right, it makes sense, but if Shelly-Ann had finished 6th, I bet we'd have seen a nice feature on Carmalita instead.

Being someone who has knowledge of NBC's track and field program formats, I can assure you that there was no back up feature for Jeter in the event she won the race. It was decided long ago to have the SAFP feature before the 100m final.

[tracknut2012]

Nut, you're right, it makes sense, but if Shelly-Ann had finished 6th, I bet we'd have seen a nice feature on Carmalita instead.

Being someone who has knowledge of NBC's track and field program formats, I can assure you that there was no back up feature for Jeter in the event she won the race. It was decided long ago to have the SAFP feature before the 100m final.

Wrong wrong wrong. They had a 4 minute feature on Carmelita just before the 100m semi finals.

I am surprised how come no one mentioned about them not featuring Felix either.

[sprintzfan]

Okay I'll look for them then.

Are you in the U.S. tracknut? Because I am and I was figuring I'd be IP blocked from seeing anything BBC. Like I've been blocked in my attempts to get anything CTV (Canada.)

But if you're in the U.S. I'll get to work on that. I'll know it's possible for me.

I am in the US. Check your message for the link.

It's working like a charm too! Thanks again man!

Great coverage!

Does anyone here know from a technical standpoint, why there is ABSOLUTELY NO buffereing and other such nonsense with the foreign feeds like Sportlemon and BBC, like there is for so many of us with that nbcolympics live extra GARBAGE!?

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I can't help but think NBC intentionally wants to offer an inferior web stream product in order for us to have to watch that clown Costas every night. lol

But thanks to tracknut and others here, looks like I'm completely Costas-Free from here on out.

[tracknut2012]

Okay I'll look for them then.

Are you in the U.S. tracknut? Because I am and I was figuring I'd be IP blocked from seeing anything BBC. Like I've been blocked in my attempts to get anything CTV (Canada.)

But if you're in the U.S. I'll get to work on that. I'll know it's possible for me.

I am in the US. Check your message for the link.

It's working like a charm too! Thanks again man!

Great coverage!

Does anyone here know from a technical standpoint, why there is ABSOLUTELY NO buffereing and other such nonsense with the foreign feeds like Sportlemon and BBC, like there is for so many of us with that nbcolympics live extra GARBAGE!?

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I can't help but think NBC intentionally wants to offer an inferior web stream product in order for us to have to watch that clown Costas every night. lol

But thanks to tracknut and others here, looks like I'm completely Costas-Free from here on out.

Buffering is usually caused when thousands of people log on at the same time and the system is "straining" to provide a good feed as with the case in nbcolympics.com coverage.

The BBC links are also alot better since you don't have the every two minute commercials like on the nbcolympics coverage. I was utterly disappointed yesterday after watching Bolt cross the line in the 100m heats on the nbcolympics.com coverage, they immediately cut to 3 commercials and thus, we missed a whole bunch of replays.

NBC has total disregard(disdain) for its viewers. It was almost 11pm before they showed the womens 100m final last night on TV even though the event happened almost 6 hours earlier.

No where else in the world this crap happens.

[sprintzfan]

Bruce3404, I just read your comment about how thankful you are to NBC yada, yada... Please take a look at my buffering related question just above, and tell me if you can answer that? From a technical standpoint or any other.



Also I read some ratings info last night on these Olympics. Apparently ratings have been up (compared to 4 years ago), particularly in Midwest and Western U.S. cities. (e.g., Kansas City, Denver.) So as far as Beach Volleyball and all that is concerned, so far, maybe the NBC paradigm is working....So far.

[sprintzfan]

NBC has total disregard(disdain) for its viewers. It was almost 11pm before they showed the womens 100m final last night on TV even though the event happened almost 6 hours earlier.

No where else in the world this crap happens.

I couldn't agree with you more, on these two statements above!

We clearly get the WORST coverage of any industrialized country I am familar with. And it is hard for me to accept that. Hard for me to believe, that capitalism and profit incentive is the SOLE cause for why as an American, I have to endure the worst Olympics coverage in the hemisphere.

Something is rotten in Denwark...or Rockefellor Center.

[Conor Dary]

capitalism and profit incentive is the SOLE cause for why as an American, I have to endure the worst Olympics coverage in the hemisphere. Something is rotten in Denwark...or Rockefellor Center.

Now you are getting it. To NBC the Olympics have nothing to do with sport. It is an entertainment package for the millions who usually never watch sports on tv.

However, they have allowed the sport nuts to follow on the internet, which has been, for the most part, not bad.

As for looking for elsewhere the rot is:

International Olympic Committee
Head office
POBox 356, 1007 LAUSANNE , SWITZERLAND

[bruce3404]

Bruce, the streaming T&F is terrific, when it works. It's almost triple-case. But the prime-time show is ghastly.

Agreed. Since I'm going to bed at 5PM, I don't get to see the evening stuff until the following time slot between the live morning and afternoon sessions. The scant coverage of the field events produces zero tension and 90% of the time if you see an athlete competing, you know that athlete must have gotten a medal. The other 10% are American athletes who should have gotten a medal, but didn't. I timed the shot put presentation. It lasted two minutes and half of that was showing Hoffa's mom in the stands along with a brief interview with Reese. That left a whole minute for the actual competition! I've taken to watching some of the bios (I didn't know much about Fraser-Pryce and enjoyed the clip on her) and fast-forwarding through events I've already seen.
I had planned to watch the marathon live on NBC this morning, but they kept cutting back to the studio for inane chatter, so I went for the online feed.

[bruce3404]

Bruce3404, I just read your comment about how thankful you are to NBC yada, yada... Please take a look at my buffering related question just above, and tell me if you can answer that? From a technical standpoint or any other.
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I have to agree with Tracknut 2012, lots of US traffic whereas the Europeans would be more likely to use their televisions for the BBC feeds. Hell, I wish NBC had set it up so we could watch live stuff on MSNBC or one of the other networks they're affiliated with. Maybe by 2016?

Is the BBC feed somewhere else than sportlemon? If so, could one of you PM me with the details?

[sprintzfan]

I'll send you the link bruce.

Isn't BBC like the preferred network in MANY parts of the world? Not just Europe?

So BBC online traffic for these games, should dwarf that of NBC, I'm thinking.

Add to that, the immense popularity of Track and Field in Europe, compared to the U.S. At the time a big race is happening live, do you think there are more U.S. based fans watching NBCOlympics.com, than there are worldwide fans watching this BBC site I'm about to send you?

You guys seem to me, to be bending over backwards to make excuses and justifications for NBC, no matter what. You might be right that the NBC traffic is higher, but so far I haven't seen an argument articulated here that makes me suspect that to be the case.

BBC has a HUGE international imprint from all I've seen, reaad and heard. No American over-the-air type network, including NBC can boast the same. Therefore, I think for all the reasons I state in this post, the odds that the NBC traffic exceed that of BBC are slim.

Now maybe this "proxy way" we are getting BBC, puts us on a less trafficked server or something. I don't know how all that works. But I still see a reasons to work off of the assumption, that it isn't a traffic issue that acts as the reason these bootleg international feeds we are using, is such a better stream than what NBC is offering us.

[Daisy]

NBC handles the Olympics, like it's American Idol, not a sporting event.

This is the key point. After I realised this I just gave up on them. They are not targeting sports fans. We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

No women's PV qualifying, no wDiscus final.

I recently figured out they have a late night program too. And these were both on that show. A big problem with NBC is that we never know when things are going to be televised. No normal person has the time to sit in front of the TV all day. But they cynically calculate if we do not know when they will show the different sections of athletics then we'll see more advertisements.

[sprintzfan]

Here's what I'd like to see done Daisy. One of those online petition type protest/boycott against NBC. I don't how those things typically start, but if one were started where disgruntled fans over this coverage could come together, and as a group decide on specific NBC programs to boycott, I think that kind of thing would definitely catch NBC's eyes and ears. That would be a way to take our anger, and turn it into something that could mess with NBC's bottom line.

I as an individual have already decided that I'm going to email the network, and let them know that as a long time NBC News viewer, I am going to personally boycott the Brain Williams nighthly news and Today show, and much of their other news and news related programming for a while as a result of my unpleasant experiences with these Olympics. As just one person, I know they don't care about me doing that. But I'll feel better about me doing at least something.

But if this kind of boycott, by some means could come into existence, I definitely think that would allow our collective voice to be heard by the suits at NBC. I just wish I had the time and know-how to start such a movement myself. And the willingness to give up my anonymity, for the possible media attention such an effort might eventually attract. (i.e., I don't like my name in the media.)

[Conor Dary]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work. By the way, I haven't watched anything on NBC, or CBS, or ABC, except football for years, and guess what? They still screw up the Olympics. They don't care...

And I am afraid your gripes are decades late. In was in 1984 it all started to go to TV Olympic hell. They didn't mention the men's 10,000 let alone show any of the race. And yes we track fans got all upset, wrote letters and so on. In 1988 they did show the track all live, early in the morning. And then came TripleCast. But the IOC has demanded more and more money! Show me the MONEY! So there we are.

Except the fact that for NBC the Olympics are an Entertainment package, that has little to do with sport, and you will be at peace..

Listen to Daisy...Our resident Sage.

[Daisy]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

[Conor Dary]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

And it will get better, for a first time operation, the NBC streaming hasn't been that bad.

I remember back in 2000, only 12 years ago, having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

[Marlow]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

Indeed. It turns out that as far as NBC is concerned, not only are the Olympics now just a USA reality show, it's targeted demographic is women who don't even like sports. That not only explains all the non-competition programming, it explains the fascination with a non-sport devotion to things such as synchronized diving.

The irony is that as more and more men ignore their programming (by watching a live web-cast) the worse it's going to get.

[Daisy]

having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

I can remember having to walk to school and back, in three feet of snow, and having to pick up the sack of coal on the way home.

The irony is that as more and more men ignore their programming (by watching a live web-cast) the worse it's going to get.

So true. It's only a matter of time before ballroom dancing will become an Olympic event. In fact, you have to wonder whether Brazil might be the perfect host to have it as a demostration sport.

[Conor Dary]

having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

I can remember having to walk to school and back, in three feet of snow, and having to pick up the sack of coal on the way home.

For you Daisy, watching A Christmas Carol must be like watching a home movie....

[tracknut2012]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

And it will get better, for a first time operation, the NBC streaming hasn't been that bad.

I remember back in 2000, only 12 years ago, having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

[tracknut2012]

Michael Johnson is one of the BBC commentators.

[Conor Dary]

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

What commercials are you talking about? I am looking at the NBC stream right now. No problems at all watching the 100 semi and everything since. Perfect coverage. No freezing, Stuart Storey and Peter Matthews, what more can you want?

[sprintzfan]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work.

Are you serious dude? You don't think there is anyway a boycott type action could have any impact at all on what NBC does in this regard? Is that your position and the source of your scarcasm?

If so then I'm rolling my eyes at YOU because clearly you don't squat about the history of viewer driven initiatives, to change a variety of types of network programming decisions.

Want me to give you some examples of intiatives like that, that have worked? Even going back to the "letter writing" era?

Okay I get it. For whatever reason you think you have to just accept any and everything NBC does. You're NBC's complacent peasant. But I think either you're totally unfamiliar with the history of this kind of thing, or so passive in your core nature that you can't even see that this kind of thing doesn't automatically have to be a lost cause.

Fine. You are willing to totally accept and enjoy like some slave, anything NBC throws at us. I'm not that way dude. I call 'em like I see 'em and NBC is full of crap. Full of crap in ways that I strongly suspect are not totally related to their profit and marketing concerns. (e.g., The egos of their on-air talenet is involved here too. Costas' ego as one example.)

Is an online petition-boycott 100% destined to succeed? No, it isn't in my opinion. But neither is it 100% destined to fail. So theoretically I think it's worth a try.

But if you see your kind of defeatism and sense of total powerlessness as a sign of yourself being a realist, then that's on you man. Knock yourself out. But my background and make up is obviously different. I am never one to just mentally throw in the towel on something that I care passionately about. Including the Olympics. Which today by the way I am enjoying IMMENSELY due to non-NBC, non commercial filled, non-buffering foreign networks.

NBC is full of it. I'm not going to lose sleep over that. But I'm not going to put my head in the sand about it either, and pretend like it isn't happening.

back at you man.

[tracknut2012]

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

What commercials are you talking about? I am looking at the NBC stream right now. No problems at all watching the 100 semi and everything since. Perfect coverage. No freezing, Stuart Storey and Peter Matthews, what more can you want?

Are you watching the stream without the commentary? I don't believe that the one shows any commericals.

The main track and field feed yesterday showed tonnes of commercial after each race.

After Bolt's 100m heat yesterday, they showed 3 commercials before getting back to the race.

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

[Grasshopper]

I'm watching the BBC feed this afternoon (thanks for the links), as opposed to the NBC feeds that I've been watching the last couple of days (which are freezing up more often then they're actually running today), and I have to say that it's 100% better (and then some) than the NBC coverage!

[Daisy]

He is defending them to the death.

More likely beaten into submission.

[sprintzfan]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

[Conor Dary]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work.

Are you serious dude? You don't think there is anyway a boycott type action could have any impact at all on what NBC does in this regard? Is that your position and the source of your scarcasm?

If so then I'm rolling my eyes at YOU because clearly you don't squat about the history of viewer driven initiatives, to change a variety of types of network programming decisions.

Want me to give you some examples of intiatives like that that have worked? Even going back to the "letter writing" era?

Okay I get it. For whatever reason you think you have just accept any and everything NBC does. You're NBC's complacent peasant. But I think either you're totally unfamiliar with the history of this kind of thing, or so passive in your core nature that you can't even see that this kind of thing doesn't automatically have to be a lost cause.

Fine. You are willing to totally accept and enjoy like some slave, anything NBC throws at us. I'm not that way dude. I call 'em like I see 'em and NBC is full of crap. Full of crap in ways that are not totally related to their profit and marketing concerns.

Is an online petition boycott 100% destined to succeed. No, it isn't in my opinion. But neither is it 100% destined to fail. So theoretically I think it's worth a try.

But if you see your kind of defeatism and sense of total powerlessness as a sign of yourself being a realist, then that's on you man. Knock yourself out. But my background and make up is obviously different. I am never one to just mentally throw in the towel on something I care passionately about. Including the Olympics. Which today by the way I am enjoying IMMENSELY.

NBC is full of it. I'm not going to lose sleep over that. But I'm not going to put my head in the sand about it either, and pretend like it isn't happening.

What a wuss I am, Yes, fight, fight, fight. Just like this guy....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus

[Conor Dary]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

Wow, I have been accused of a lot of things here, but nothing as low as this. A Lobbyist! And working for NBC! Makes me want to cry.

[Conor Dary]

He is defending them to the death.

More likely beaten into submission.

Give that a man a cookie!