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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby norunner » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:14 pm

They just had a german official on tv, he said, Ukraine now claims that Schwarzkopf stepped on the line too. German tv had their own camera on Schwarzkopf and showed the first 100m several times, she wasnt even close to the line.
Maybe Russia should file a protest too, claiming Ennis stepped on the line...
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:14 pm

norunner wrote:This is just bad sportsmanship by the ukranian officials, Savitskaja in lane 6 stepped on the line, but they are trying get Schwarzkopf disqualified (or Chernova), to STEAL a medal.


Agreed!
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Master Po » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:15 pm

Congratulations to Ennis -- great performance, and really a pleasure to watch her take on the 800. What a great sportswoman.

(And, as always, thanks to the multi-event analysts who make these threads a pleasure, too.)
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby norunner » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:17 pm

Apparently the result is official now with no DQs, at least they just showed the final result on tv.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:18 pm

... and I would suggest to place the judge (or whatever) who caused that confusion in the middle of the stadium during the victory ceremony and publish his/her name, address and telephone number! :evil:
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Gabriella » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:20 pm

norunner wrote:They just had a german official on tv, he said, Ukraine now claims that Schwarzkopf stepped on the line too.


Then that Ukranian official should be banned. Outrageous. if they're prepared to blatantly cheat like that, well, what is there to say?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby j-a-m » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:21 pm

norunner wrote:Apparently the result is official now with no DQs, at least they just showed the final result on tv.

Yeah, also up on the official results page.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby andyjgt » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:22 pm

Gabriella wrote:
andyjgt wrote:
Gabriella wrote:so, only one person under performed there, guess who it was?


Chernova I guess?

Not Dobrynska who had 2 fouls in the LJ I hope you mean?


Doh , the clue was what was in the brackets!


I don't get it Gab, sorry.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby ldnbloke » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:22 pm

Amazing - Jessica Ennis - athletics queen.
After Kluft there was a danger of a lull in the best event but Jess leads a fantastic cohort. So many great PBs, Schwarzkopf so good in six events apart from her favourite JT, happy for her. KJT broke her British junior record Again and 14th in an olymoic heptathlon as a junior.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:24 pm

But why didn't Savitskaya who clearly stepped on the line get DQed?
Not because I wan't her to, but shouldn't they finish what they have thought?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby andyjgt » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:25 pm

Gabriella wrote:
norunner wrote:Now its getting ridiculous, protest by the Ukraine. What is there to protest about?


What do you expect from a system the produced Blonska, Tobias, Yefromova etc...

It's ridiculous that it's gotten to this. I feel very sorry for Lilli.


Who really thought Tobias and Yefremova were doping till they got busted? Especially not the latter, who raced regularly outside Ukraine (or Russia) in 2011.

I can think of plenty of British athletes who flashed up as many if not more red flags than they have done (not saying they're dirty of course, I'm British myself as Jon always delighted in pointing out, but it's the truth, I am).
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Sinafan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:26 pm

The final all Brits waited for and some fool isn't able to count the lanes. Botches the greatest moment of Schwarzkopf's life, hands a medal for Yosypenko which she's bound to lose again. And the Urainian team should be really embarassed to file a protest which will push the victory ceremony to the next day.
A real nadir of organisation and judging for which there's no excuse.

Edit: As for Schwarzkopf, great performance and strong 800m race she clung to Chernova till the bitter end and the sub 2:11 I thought possible. I had ten medal chances for Germany in my predictions, but the heptathletes didn't really figure. There were just too many good women for one medal and Schwarzkopf though strong this year didn't seem like the woman to push all of them aside.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby andyjgt » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Sinafan wrote:The final all Brits waited for and some fool isn't able to count the lanes. Botches the greatest moment of Schwarzkopf's life, hands a medal for Yosypenko which she's bound to lose again. And the Urainian team should be really embarassed to file a protest which will push the victory ceremony to the next day.
A real nadir of organisation and judging for which there's no excuse.


I believe I just saw it, as a fan of the Ukrainian team, congrats to Lilli, worthy silver medallist.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Gabriella » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:32 pm

andyjgt wrote:I don't get it Gab, sorry.


All the others I quoted got PBs - or a NR - apart from Chernova.

On Yefromova et al, it's probably best I don't comment; I have very strong feelings about the Ukranian team, just as I do the Russian and Belorussians. Nuff said
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby jeremyp » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:32 pm

dvorakfan wrote:... and I would suggest to place the judge (or whatever) who caused that confusion in the middle of the stadium during the victory ceremony and publish his/her name, address and telephone number! :evil:

Or 007 could take him up in a helicopter without a parachute?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Gabriella » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:36 pm

Sinafan wrote: Edit: As for Schwarzkopf, great performance and strong 800m race she clung to Chernova till the bitter end and the sub 2:11 I thought possible. I had ten medal chances for Germany in my predictions, but the heptathletes didn't really figure. There were just too many good women for one medal and Schwarzkopf though strong this year didn't seem like the woman to push all of them aside.


I follow the heptathlon closely and Lilli's results this year have all been at PB level; she just needed to put them together in one competition. When she set that 100mh PB, it was then all about reproducing her performances she'd set this year; dont forget she has had a couple of races at 24.7 and 24.8 as well as a 6.3 LJ. I always said she could go over 6600 and I'm so glad I was right :D
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby j-a-m » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:44 pm

Sinafan wrote:file a protest which will push the victory ceremony to the next day.

Victory ceremony took place today; not sure if Ukrainian protest was denied fast, or if ceremony took place anyway.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Sinafan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:50 pm

I always thought in the mid 2000s Lilli would be the German heptathlon star, but from 2008 on she had a downswing, going out in Berlin, taking a break in 2010 and a solid comeback in 2011, but in the meantime Oeser threw a great shadow winning three medals in a row. And in the same year when Oeser has injury woes, Schwarzkopf makes a strong comeback and then knocks down the heptathlon of her life. Of course she always had it in her, but she's always self-critical and never looked like the ultimate fighter a la Oeser who fell in the 800m in Berlin but rose again and still won silver.
It's a great happy end for a career which looked pretty much finished.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby ldnbloke » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:54 pm

Sinafan wrote:I always thought in the mid 2000s Lilli would be the German heptathlon star, but from 2008 on she had a downswing, going out in Berlin, taking a break in 2010 and a solid comeback in 2011, but in the meantime Oeser threw a great shadow winning three medals in a row. And in the same year when Oeser has injury woes, Schwarzkopf makes a strong comeback and then knocks down the heptathlon of her life. Of course she always had it in her, but she's always self-critical and never looked like the ultimate fighter a la Oeser who fell in the 800m in Berlin but rose again and still won silver.
It's a great happy end for a career which looked pretty much finished.


I thought she had a great meet until the JT when she wasn't really in the same league as usual. It was sad that BBC didn't mention her throughout the competition as it was clear she was PB or near PB for the first five events and then in the 800. They don't use heir statistician obviously . Gutted a bit for Skujyte but at least she got an amazing PB out of this.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby bekayne » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:55 pm

dvorakfan wrote:But why didn't Savitskaya who clearly stepped on the line get DQed?
Not because I wan't her to, but shouldn't they finish what they have thought?


Of course, since it won't affect the medals they'll just sweep it under the carpet & pretend it never happened.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby pakillo » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:57 pm

Am I seeing good that after all Savitskaya wasn't DQ-ed?? Would be funny if it wasn't SAD!!!
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby pakillo » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:00 pm

bekayne wrote:
dvorakfan wrote:But why didn't Savitskaya who clearly stepped on the line get DQed?
Not because I wan't her to, but shouldn't they finish what they have thought?


Of course, since it won't affect the medals they'll just sweep it under the carpet & pretend it never happened.

Well that definitely shouldn't and must not be a reason. We saw DQs yesterday of hurdlers who didn't advance...
But they can pretend their GOOD JOB never happened.
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Re: 2012 OG: wHept—

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:57 pm

MDelano wrote:Great improvement but it came at a high cost. With her knee acting up again she was in severe pain today and consequently underperformed in lj and jav.
So the question remains whether she wouldn't be better off focusing on the sprints.


yeah,Good HJ not even brings her good fortune,LJ not good for hoping more than 6,50m,but a 36m JV must be a disaster for her.Laura Ikauniece passed her with a 6414p pb.But it is not th bad totally with a sores beyond 6300p,hoping she can run 200m the day after tomorrow with healthy body.
Also expect ennis and zelinka in 100mH, :)
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby pakillo » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:15 am

Ikauniece after massive improvement at the Euros new PB. Is she daughter of Vineta Ikauniece- (USSR sprinter from the 80s and Latvian sprint record holder)?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby jjimbojames » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:44 am

Ennis confirmed this morning she WON'T be running the hurdles - had thought about it after the first event, but feels she wants to soak up the last two days instead
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby tgs3 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:43 am

pakillo wrote:Ikauniece after massive improvement at the Euros new PB. Is she daughter of Vineta Ikauniece- (USSR sprinter from the 80s and Latvian sprint record holder)?


Yes:

http://www.london2012.com/athlete/ikaun ... a-1089463/
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Randy Treadway » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:23 am

When the heptathletes lined up for the start of the 800, did I see correctly that one of them had a huge hammer & sickle tattooed on her leg- I mean a really BIG one?

I'm just wondering if that's a violation of the IOC rule about sponsor endorsements, which I think we heard includes tattoos.

Sponsored by corporations, sponsored by governments... the rule should work the same either way, shouldn't it, to be even-handed to the athletes?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby Harrier46 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:05 am

anyone with insight into Hyleas Fountain injury/dnf?? and/or Chantae McMillan running 2:40.55 ??
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:31 pm

SCHIPPERS withdrawed from 200m after injury ,only focus on relay after injury in hep,the funny things is that she finished 9th in 200m semi although the level last year is not good,12th in a high level hep, :?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby EPelle » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:04 am

How much may Ennis earn following her gold?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/lon ... 46477.html
Publicist Max Clifford was quoted by the Daily Mail suggesting that Ennis could now earn as much as £5m over the next two to three years.


"She is set up for life," sports marketing expert Patrick Nally told Reuters. "She is the epitome of the London Games. Winning at home has that extra kudos and she will be able to trade off it for many years," he added.
Ennis had been expected to make around one million pounds this year but that figure will now be multiplied after a performance that will help sell her to the world.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wHept—Jessica Ennis (GB) 6955 WL (5, x W)

Postby dbirds » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:02 am

Has Ennis commented on repeating in RIo?
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