¶2012 OG: mLJ–Greg Rutherford (GB) 27-3¼ (8.31)

[dj]

T&FN formchart advancers to final

1. Mitchell Watt (Australia)
2. Greg Rutherford (Great Britain)
3. Sebastian Bayer (Germany)
4. Aleksandr Menkov (Russia)
5. Irving Saladino (Panama)
6. Khotso Mokoena (S Africa)
7. Christian Reif (Germany)
8. Chris Tomlinson (Great Britain)
9. Mauro da Silva (Brazil)
10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

[Marlow]

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10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

It is just as likely that he will win, as finish this low.

[Weights&Shoes]

STARTLIST:


Long Jump - M Qualification
Qual. rule: qualification standard 8.10m or at least best 12 qualified.

Group A:

1 1043 Henry Frayne [AUSTRALIA] 8.27/8.27
2 1526 Štepán Wagner[CZECH REPUBLIC] 8.21/8.21
3 1767 Salim Sdiri [FRANCE] 7.98/8.42
4 1369 Xiaoyi Zhang [PR OF CHINA] 8.20/8.27
5 3020 Supanara Sukhasvasti N. A. [THAILAND] 7.76/8.05
6 1832 Greg Rutherford [GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.] 8.35/8.35
7 1919 Christian Reif [GERMANY] 8.26/8.47
8 1030 Vardan Pahlevanyan [ARMENIA] 8.20/8.20
9 1886 Boleslav Skhirtladze [GEORGIA] 8.12/8.12
10 3033 Ching-Hsuan Lin [CHINESE TAIPEI] 7.84/8.11
11 3211 Will Claye [UNITED STATES] 8.25/8.29
12 3002 Michel Tornéus [SWEDEN] 8.22/8.22
13 3218 Marquise Goodwin [UNITED STATES] 8.33/8.33
14 1151 Tyrone Smith [BERMUDA] 7.95/8.22
15 2080 Mohammad Arzandeh [ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN] 8.17/8.17
16 2785 Godfrey Khotso Mokoena [SOUTH AFRICA] 8.29/8.50
17 1895 Alyn Camara [GERMANY] 8.20/8.20
18 1612 Eusebio Cáceres [SPAIN] 8.06/8.27
19 2818 Aleksandr Menkov [RUSSIA] 8.24/8.28
20 1988 Loúis Tsátoumas [GREECE] 8.05/8.66
21 2173 Damar Forbes [JAMAICA] 8.13/8.23

Group B:

Friday 03 August 2012 - 19:50

1 1031 Arsen Sargsyan [ARMENIA] 8.20/8.20
2 2426 Povilas Mykolaitis [LITHUANIA] 7.85/8.15
3 3228 George Kitchens [UNITED STATES] 8.21/8.21
4 1892 Sebastian Bayer [GERMANY] 8.34/8.71
5 2708 Marcos Chuva [PORTUGAL] 8.00/8.34
6 2821 Aleksandr Petrov [RUSSIA] 7.92/8.20
7 3135 Viktor Kuznetsov [UKRAINE] 8.10/8.22
8 1219 Mauro Vinicius da Silva [BRAZIL] 8.28/8.28
9 2504 Luis Rivera [MEXICO] 8.22/8.22
10 1521 Roman Novotný [CZECH REPUBLIC] 8.22/8.22
11 1352 Jinzhe Li [PR OF CHINA] 8.25/8.25
12 1627 Luis Felipe Méliz [SPAIN] 8.21/8.43
13 2624 Irving Saladino [PANAMA] 8.16/8.73
14 1102 Raymond Higgs [BAHAMAS] 8.07/8.15
15 1839 Christopher Tomlinson [GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.] 8.26/8.35
16 1585 Mohamed Fathalla Difallah [EGYPT] 7.57/8.18
17 2819 Sergey Morgunov [RUSSIA] 8.35/8.35
18 1066 Mitchell Watt [AUSTRALIA] 8.28/8.54
19 2908 Ndiss Kaba Badji [SENEGAL] 8.17/8.32
20 2569 Stanley Gbagbeke [NIGERIA] 8.20/8.20
21 1973 Ignisious Gaisah [GHANA] 8.04/8.43

[Gabriella]

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10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

It is just as likely that he will win, as finish this low.

That's the same with Bayer. At the Europeans he had two great jumps, around 8.50, that were marginal fouls. He still won but he couldn't sustain that level through the competition. If he gets one in early, great, if not, then he too could easily be right down the list.

[j-a-m]

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10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

It is just as likely that he will win, as finish this low.

Yeah, Goodwin could be ranked much higher.

[norunner]

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10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

It is just as likely that he will win, as finish this low.

That's the same with Bayer. At the Europeans he had two great jumps, around 8.50, that were marginal fouls. He still won but he couldn't sustain that level through the competition. If he gets one in early, great, if not, then he too could easily be right down the list.

However Bayer did win the ECs with his last two jumps. Actually the other german is the dark horse, Reif had two impressive competitions this year, especially an 8.21m in terrible weather, has had some minor injuries since then but is fit and according to the last fitness tests in better form than in 2010.

[gh]

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10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

It is just as likely that he will win, as finish this low.

Yeah, Goodwin could be ranked much higher.

or lower.... this is a crapshoot of an event.

And remember, Goodwin jumped exactly the same distance, 8.33 (albeit windy), to win the nationals last year, and was a non-Q in Daegu at 8.02.

[Athletics]

Let's see if young Morgunov can deliver his best jumps at the biggest stage (He's only 19 and has shown alot of promise this year, shares WL with a jump of 8.35m), I'd pick him as the ''dark horse'' of this event.

[Flumpy]

Why is Menkov on the formchart but Morgunov nowhere to be seen???

Top 3 are my predictions as well.

[j-a-m]

And remember, Goodwin jumped exactly the same distance, 8.33 (albeit windy), to win the nationals last year, and was a non-Q in Daegu at 8.02.

Yeah, he also seems to be at his best in Eugene... On the other hand, he's probably more focused on track now than he was in recent years.

[gh]

Why is Menkov on the formchart but Morgunov nowhere to be seen???

......

uh, cuz Morgunov only has 5 meets over 8.00 in his life, and only one over 8.10. And because I don't think he has ever beaten a single competitor with an international credential.

Menkov has the World Indoor bronze from this year, won a DL meet (and took 3rd in another) and has 7 meets over 8.00 this year alone, 4 of those past 8.20.

You somehow see them as equal?

[Flumpy]

I think I've got them muddled up. In fact I might actually have thought they're the same person

[EPelle]

Olympic Record: 8.90 (+2.0), Bob Beamon, USA, Mexico City, 1968

2008 Results: G-Irving Saladino, PAN, 8.34; S-Khotso Mokoena, RSA, 8.24; S-Ibrahim Camejo, CUB, 8.20.
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[gennady]

I looked at a qualifying list and felt sad.
Long jump slowly degrade.
Example Q standards by year
WC-07/OG-08/WC-09/WC-11/OG-12
8.15/8.20/8.15/8.15/8.10

[norunner]

I looked at a qualifying list and felt sad.
Long jump slowly degrade.
Example Q standards by year
WC-07/OG-08/WC-09/WC-11/OG-12
8.15/8.20/8.15/8.15/8.10

According to the iaaf webpage it was 8.15 in 2008 too. But i think you should look at it differently: How many jumpers went over 8.15 in each of these years? Or how many went over 8m in qualification? That would be a better indication.

[AS]

LJ has been a pretty stagnant event for the past 2-3 decades.

We were spoiled by Lewis, Myricks, Powell and Pedroso. Remove them in the mix, the "best of the rest" jumpers have struggled to by over 8.40m on anything like a regular basis.

This year looks particularly off, with no one in that territory.

But in terms of actual depth, I'm not sure there's really much difference in terms of guys who hit the next sort of "cutoff", that is jumping 8.20+ regularly. There are about 10 nowadays, as there always has been.

This Olympics does look a real crapshoot. I'm sticking with Watt in that he's the guy who most recently (i.e. in the last 18 months) has consistently jumped over 8.40. If he hits 8.45m early on, I don't see anyone else with any form that says they'll respond.

But if Watt's only in 8.30m shape, then he's back in the pack with 4-6 other guys...

[user4]

LJ has been a pretty stagnant event for the past 2-3 decades.

This year looks particularly off, with no one in that territory.

But in terms of actual depth, I'm not sure there's really much difference in terms of guys who hit the next sort of "cutoff", that is jumping 8.20+ regularly. There are about 10 nowadays, as there always has been.

There was an Olympics more than a few decades ago where a guy went in as a favorite with an 8.33m best ... The rest is history.

[j-a-m]

It seems they all jump into a headwind. Why do they jump into that direction?

[j-a-m]

Goodwin first to get auto qualifier with 8.11 (-1.0)

[jeremyp]

Saladino NQ!

[kdicks]

Saladino fouled all three jumps.

[croflash]

Bayer just barely in, a lot of guys dodging bullets today.

[eDJon20]

Not surprised with Saladino he hasn't made noise since Beijing

[dj]

T&FN formchart advancers to final

1. Mitchell Watt (Australia)
2. Greg Rutherford (Great Britain)
3. Sebastian Bayer (Germany)
4. Aleksandr Menkov (Russia)
5. Irving Saladino (Panama)
6. Khotso Mokoena (S Africa)
7. Christian Reif (Germany)
8. Chris Tomlinson (Great Britain)
9. Mauro da Silva (Brazil)
10. Marquise Goodwin (USA)

[errolM]

Absolutely pathetic. I knew mLJ was bad, but this??

Headwind blah blah blah. I got 7/2 on Rutherford, but if 8.20 wins this I'll give it away.

[Flumpy]

Literally anyone in this final could get a medal.

[Marlow]

Is that the worst qualifying round in 50 years? (Too lazy to look)

[gennady]

Is that the worst qualifying round in 50 years? (Too lazy to look)

Absolute!
8,68 1,0 1q1 Carl Lewis Barcelona OG
8,34 0,0 1q Randy Williams Munchen OG
8,32 0,1 1q2 Ivan Pedroso Sydney OG
8,31 -0,1 1q2 Dwight Phillips Athina OG
8,29 1,0 1q2 Carl Lewis Atlanta OG
8,27A 0,0 1q1 Ralph Boston Ciudad de Mexico OG
8,27 0,1 1q1 Louis Tsatoumas Beijing OG
8,21 1,2 1q1 Luis Felipe Meliz Sydney OG
8,17 1,7 1q1 Frank Paschek Moskva OG
8,03 0,0 1q Ralph Boston Tokyo OG
8,34 2,3 1q2 Mike Powell Seoul OG
8,30 2,2 1q1 Carl Lewis Los Angeles OG

It's a shame that the final part of the bidets are not much better.

[user4]

Absolutely pathetic. I knew mLJ was bad, but this??

Headwind blah blah blah. I got 7/2 on Rutherford, but if 8.20 wins this I'll give it away.

it is going to take more than 8.20 to medal.

[Charley Shaffer]

Bayer just barely in, a lot of guys dodging bullets today.

Yes, Reif and Cáceres had the same best mark, 7.92m, but per IAAF Rules 180.13 and 180.19, the tie was broken and only Bayer advanced to the final day. However, there might have been some controversy: the offical IAAF results page mysteriously shows only 2 big Q and 3 small q for a total of 5 athletes advancing. But the start list for August 4 shows 12, stopping at Bayer.
http://www.iaaf.org/Mini/OLY12/Results/ResultsByDate.aspx?racedate=08-03-2012/sex=M/discCode=LJ/combCode=hash/roundCode=q/results.html#detM_LJ_hash_q

I recall how a rule, apparently applying to the Olympic Games only, benefited Lance Deal in the final at Atlanta 1996. It did not call for the breaking of ties after the first 3 throws during the final. Does that rule still exist? I see that IAAF Rule 180.5 does mandate the breaking of ties after the first 3 throws during the final, before going to the final 3 throws.

If that rule does still exist, does it not apply to the qualifying (preliminary) round?

[fromage]

sods law will probably apply and after a very indifferent qualifier the competition will be much better and more exciting... assuming a typical nasty wind does not develop.

[Grasshopper]

Hometown boys starting out well. I think they're currently 1-3 after 2 rounds. Rutheford just jumped 8.21 into a headwind, Claye followed with 8.07, Tomlinson 3rd in 8.06.

[j-a-m]

Goodwin not in the top 8 so far, needs to improve.

[MightyBurner]

Worst Olympic LJ field ever?

[Grasshopper]

Goodwin doesn't make the top-8 cut.