OK folks, rip us to shreds! (T&FN predictions)

[gh]

The link to the 47 by-event PDFs now available on the front page.

With that much data cranked out between the OT and now, there's bound to be a howler or two in there. Stick it to us! (and we'll just as quickly effect a change and pretend we had it right from the get-go )

[norunner]

The German 4x1 ran a NR 38.02 today, which should put them around 3-4th place in the form chart.

[gh]

well those bastards!

[norunner]

well those bastards!

Those bastards are going to win gold if the US and Jamaica fall over each other

[Marlow]

well those bastards!

Glorious though they are!

[LopenUupunut]

No Guillermo Martínez? Kibwé Johnson in #9 sounds awfully like wishful thinking...
Getting Tomasz Majewski's first name right in a T&FN formchart is almost heresy! Morozov isn't in Russia's m20K walk team, Kanaykin is.

[gh]

...Kibwé Johnson in #9 sounds awfully like wishful thinking... ....

interestingly enough, that decision not made by an American!

[norunner]

An observation: For some events you list indoor PBs for others you don't. What makes this confusing is, for example womens SP the PB for Ostapchuk indicates indoors by the small i, but in the mens HJ, indoor bests are not marked. And in the mens SP no indoor PBs are listed at all, Whiting and Storl both have better indoor PBs than outdoor.

[LopenUupunut]

Kucherenko also not in Russian team...

[Marlow]

An observation: For some events you list indoor PBs for others you don't. What makes this confusing is, for example womens SP the PB for Ostapchuk indicates indoors by the small i, but in the mens HJ, indoor bests are not marked. And in the mens SP no indoor PBs are listed at all, Whiting and Storl both have better indoor PBs than outdoor.

Gee, 47 events times 10 spots (probably 15 athletes considered) = . . .uh . . . carry the two . . . take the inverse logarith of the tangent . . . um . . . LOTS of data to collate!

[Master Po]

Nice work, gh & others -- thank you! I'll be pretty happy if the medals/finishes came out as these predictions.

[gh]

we didn't even stop to take a count.... how did the U.S. come out re Project 30?

[Marlow]

What depresses me is that I took a lot of time and effort to come up with my own picks - finished them 2 days ago, and I did all that for nothing, because mine are almost identical as these.

Biggest differences:

I think you have it backwards on m100/200. Bolt will take 100 but then not have the strength to hold off Blake in the 200.
Merritt's cramp won't keep him from winning - but it'll be close.
I bet Rupp beats KB and almost Farah.
I still have Jamaica medaling in the m4x4, but you might make me change my mind.
[Thank you for the Mars and Ws - I shall copy them verbatim]
Jesse sneaks past the Russkis.
CC takes the SP!

I really think VCB is toast.
I agree that Semenya does NOT medal.
Don't agree with the w1500 at all
I think Isi will NOT pull it out

[LopenUupunut]

we didn't even stop to take a count.... how did the U.S. come out re Project 30?

Unless I miscalculated, the formchart gives USA exactly 30 medals! Really doubt it's going to happen though...

[gh]

i agree with you

history suggests no

[aaronk]

we didn't even stop to take a count.... how did the U.S. come out re Project 30?

Unless I miscalculated, the formchart gives USA exactly 30 medals! Really doubt it's going to happen though...

i agree with you

history suggests no

You're both right!!

It could be MORE!!!

(Edit: Just counted the USA picks on my predictions......See Pick the medalists thread.......and I counted 38!!! 20 men and 18 women!! Now THAT is insane!!!)

[Pego]

I agree that Semenya does NOT medal.

I doubt she will make the final.

Thanks, GH.

[Marlow]

Don't agree with the w1500 at all

Why do you call the Turk Cakir and IAAF says her name is Alptekin?

P.S. In the picture of Kaniskina in the w20W, I couldn't help but notice that she's . . . uh . . . never mind, MJR will just give me a long lecture if I say it.

[j-a-m]

Bolt

I believe Bolt's still the guy to beat, got him winning both 100 and 200.

[aaronk]

It would be a "BOLT out of the blue" if anyone but Bolt wins!!!

[j-a-m]

mLJ - Goodwin only at #10?

[Master Po]

formchart trivia, while waiting for some actual athletics...
Here are the most venerable best marks of athletes in the formcharts:

w10km
Kidane (2003)
w100h
Foster-Hylton (2003)

mHammer
Ziolkowski (2001)
mDiscus
Alekna (2000)
m800
Borzakovsky (2001)

Long careers to have best marks that far back and to be successful enough now to be on the formcharts this year.

[Pelpa]

Clearly if Blake is given the 100m then the situation is the same for the 200m and he 41`3``should also get the nod...why wasn't he?

I think its downright illogical to give bolt the 200m but not 100m either that or the predictors are trying to save face, should bolt repeat his double gold heroics...subjective predictions

...there I ripped one.

Rupp for a medal?

[Vault-emort]

What depresses me is that I took a lot of time and effort to come up with my own picks - finished them 2 days ago, and I did all that for nothing, because mine are almost identical as these.

God, mine aren't...

The Aussie team have a goal (quite an optimistic one) of six medals so they would be disappointed if they only manage the four top-8 positions listed here.

[rsb2]

Nice piece of work, guys!

[ATK]

FWI, in the womens4x100 Ukraine won Bronze in Daegu last year, not Russia.

The mens Long jump looks like you picked names from a hat.
And the selection of Isi makes 0 sense.

[Runnerz76]

The pick of Isi makes perfect sense because there is no clear second choice to pick over Isi. Just throw Speigelburg, Suhr, Murer in a hat and choose one. That doesnt make sense to me. I chose Isi to win also. Sometimes champions find a way to win. I would rather take my chances on Isi and her no height over all of the others.

[ATK]

The pick of Isi makes perfect sense because there is no clear second choice to pick over Isi. Just throw Speigelburg, Suhr, Murer in a hat and choose one. That doesnt make sense to me. I chose Isi to win also. Sometimes champions find a way to win. I would rather take my chances on Isi and her no height over all of the others.

Her inconsistency is off the charts.
And also considering the rational for bumping other athletes down in other events contradicts putting Isi on top.

[Dave]

i agree with you

history suggests no

Were there many Americans in fourth or fifth? That constitute a potential upside.

[polevaultpower]

You'd be crazy not to pick Isinbayeva for a medal. She jumped over 5 meters indoors this year. She has barely competed outdoors this year, but that is standard for her.

It's not a slam dunk like it was 4 years ago, but she doesn't need to be 100% to win. She may bomb out and do nothing, but if I was betting on the outcome, I would pick her for a medal.

Having said that, I would love to see Jenn Suhr win

[26mi235]

You'd be crazy not to pick Isinbayeva for a medal. She jumped over 5 meters indoors this year. She has barely competed outdoors this year, but that is standard for her.

It's not a slam dunk like it was 4 years ago, but she doesn't need to be 100% to win. She may bomb out and do nothing, but if I was betting on the outcome, I would pick her for a medal.

Having said that, I would love to see Jenn Suhr win

She clearly is the most likely winner, even if she has a good chance to not win (and possibly place low (or NH) because of her strategy and her objectives -- anything less than first is a loss.

[Flumpy]

Where are these PDF's??? I can't find them on the front page at all

[jjimbojames]

Where are these PDF's??? I can't find them on the front page at all

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index. ... icles/1344

[Flumpy]

Thankyou

[dvorakfan]

Thank you very much - those are great!
Don't have time for comments, since I'm still working on my predictions (I need to predict top-5 for Ely's contest)