Return to Current Events

London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Main message board: for the discussion of topical track & field items only.

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby GP72 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:05 am

I saw Sally's face when she took that tumble and you could see it really dented her confidence. However she had them put those hurdles up again and then did another warm up run and cleared those two hurdles beautifully. Whether she hurt/strained herself then I do not know.

The conditions in the latter part of the meet were dreadful...and today is beautiful sunshine.
GP72
 
Posts: 393
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby EPelle » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:08 am

Flumpy wrote:
fromage wrote:lucky wells . She has they tell me Dennis Mitchell as her coach. :(


Coached by a drug cheat who is married to a drug cheat and trains with a drug cheat.

Really hoping she does well in London :roll:

Seriously. Stop.
EPelle
 
Posts: 21038
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby nevetsllim » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:31 am

Athletics wrote:Did Tiffany Porter injure herself badly?


She had a back niggle but apparently it's nothing too serious.
nevetsllim
 
Posts: 6102
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:54 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

I will assume people aren't atributting Pearsons loss to the weather. That wouldn't make sense.
ATK
 
Posts: 2925
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:00 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby j-a-m » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

ATK wrote:I will assume people aren't atributting Pearsons loss to the weather. That wouldn't make sense.

Can't speak for other people; what I meant is that a loss in the same location the OGs take place, in weather that's not untypical for that location, would concern me MORE than a loss in another location. That being said, haven't actually seen this race yet.
j-a-m
 
Posts: 2269
Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 8:21 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby shivfan » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:36 am

Athletics wrote:Did Tiffany Porter injure herself badly?

It looks like she carried something into the race, and may have aggravated it....

She's since said she will be fit for the Olympics, but we'll see....

She probably should've done what Idowu did, and withdrew.
shivfan
 
Posts: 2035
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:30 am
Location: Just outside London

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby GDAWG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:54 am

Dawn Harper looking to make history:

http://www.foxsportswest.com/07/13/12/H ... eedID=7972

There's no possible way that she'll be ignored if she wins a second straight gold medal correct? She would be in elite company in USA Track and Field if that happens (Carl Lewis, Michael Johnson, Jackie Joyner Kersee).

And I picked Porter to win the Bronze medal. I may have to change that. I don't know to who though.
GDAWG
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:53 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:55 am

GDAWG wrote:And I picked Porter to win the Bronze medal. I may have to change that. I don't know to who though.

I want to pick her for a medal as well, but Pearson, Wells, and Harper look to be the top 3 that stand out to me.
ATK
 
Posts: 2925
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:00 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby Flumpy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:17 am

jazzcyclist wrote:
Flumpy wrote:But I'm not biased against her because of her nationality, why would you be biased against British athletes because of mine? :?

Don't be the "British jammin", Flumpy. Don't do it. :P


I don't even know what that means :?
Flumpy
 
Posts: 3585
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby Flumpy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:22 am

GDAWG wrote:And I picked Porter to win the Bronze medal. I may have to change that. I don't know to who though.


Me too. Apart from Sally everyone is so close.
Flumpy
 
Posts: 3585
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby DCSIGMA » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:24 am

Flumpy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:And I picked Porter to win the Bronze medal. I may have to change that. I don't know to who though.


Me too. Apart from Sally everyone is so close.



Don't 4get about Bridget Foster Hylton...
DCSIGMA
 
Posts: 460
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:59 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby Speedster » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:28 pm

j-a-m wrote:
ATK wrote:I will assume people aren't atributting Pearsons loss to the weather. That wouldn't make sense.

Can't speak for other people; what I meant is that a loss in the same location the OGs take place, in weather that's not untypical for that location, would concern me MORE than a loss in another location. That being said, haven't actually seen this race yet.


Sally got beaten, end of story, Wells ran well in both rounds and came through to win just off her PB. It wasn't a massive margin and following Sally's fall prior to the heat, maybe she will be ok with the narrow loss, though I know no one likes losing, especially this close to the Games.

The BBC coverage stated that Porter didn't go over many hurdles in warm up so its likely that the issue was already there before her race. Makes me wonder why she even started in less than ideal conditions or what there was to prove? I hope she makes it back in time, she has three weeks though a back injury for a hurdler is a tough one.
Speedster
 
Posts: 860
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:31 am
Location: London

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby GDAWG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:32 pm

ATK wrote:
GDAWG wrote:And I picked Porter to win the Bronze medal. I may have to change that. I don't know to who though.

I want to pick her for a medal as well, but Pearson, Wells, and Harper look to be the top 3 that stand out to me.


We could see three straight Olympics where the prohibitive favorite failed to medal and the gold medal winner is a least likely winner from the United States. We'll see whether or not Wells can shock the world like Harper did four years ago and like Joanna Hayes did in Athens 8 years ago.

8 years ago, the favorite was Perdita Felicien. She fell and did not finish the race. Neither did the favorite from Beijing, Lolo Jones.
GDAWG
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:53 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby odelltrclan » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:47 pm

GDAWG wrote:8 years ago, the favorite was Perdita Felicien. She fell and did not finish the race. Neither did the favorite from Beijing, Lolo Jones.


Are you sure about this? Seems to me that Lolo finished the race after stumbling, not falling.
odelltrclan
 
Posts: 1348
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:30 pm
Location: Gilbert, Arizona

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby GDAWG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:14 pm

odelltrclan wrote:
GDAWG wrote:8 years ago, the favorite was Perdita Felicien. She fell and did not finish the race. Neither did the favorite from Beijing, Lolo Jones.


Are you sure about this? Seems to me that Lolo finished the race after stumbling, not falling.


That's right, she finished. Still though, much like Felicien was heading into Athens, she was the favorite, but it was one of the other Americans (in this case it was Dawn Harper) to win the gold medal. Pearson can either break the trend and make winning the gold medal look easy, or for the third straight Olympics, an unlikely American (Kellie Wells) comes away with the gold.

There are no locks in Track and Field at the Olympics this year....except David Rudisha.
GDAWG
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:53 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:30 pm

GDAWG wrote:That's right, she finished. Still though, much like Felicien was heading into Athens, she was the favorite, but it was one of the other Americans (in this case it was Dawn Harper) to win the gold medal. Pearson can either break the trend and make winning the gold medal look easy, or for the third straight Olympics, an unlikely American (Kellie Wells) comes away with the gold.

There are no locks in Track and Field at the Olympics this year....except David Rudisha.


Why do you think Wells is an unlikely American? Would you be surprised if she wins?
She is #3 in the world and has only lost to #1 Pearson, #2 Foster-Hylton and the OG champ/undefeated this year Dawn Harper.
ATK
 
Posts: 2925
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:00 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby Blues » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:06 pm

Flumpy wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:
Flumpy wrote:But I'm not biased against her because of her nationality, why would you be biased against British athletes because of mine?

Don't be the "British jammin", Flumpy. Don't do it.


I don't even know what that means :?


I think you do Flumpy. From now on, I think maybe we should refer to you as either Flammmin, after his now infamous original persona, or Flotorious, after one of his more recent personas.. "greatbritain50" doesn't have as unique a ring to it, and the nic would emulate one of his "slightly more sedated" personas, so that's been eliminated from consideration... :wink: j/k
Blues
 
Posts: 682
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:58 am

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby Flumpy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:57 pm

I genuinely have no idea what you're going on about :? :?
Flumpy
 
Posts: 3585
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby Blues » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:30 pm

Flumpy wrote:I genuinely have no idea what you're going on about :? :?


I was joking. But jammmin/notorious/etc. has become infamous in track and field discussion groups over the years for his blatantly anti-USA and pro-Jamaican propaganda, and for seemingly jumping at the chance to criticize US athletes regardless of whether the facts backed up his criticisms or not.. It was just that your comments and personal wishes regarding US athlete Kellie Wells reminded me of some of his posts.
Blues
 
Posts: 682
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:58 am

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby ExCoastRanger » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:19 pm

ATK wrote:I will assume people aren't atributting Pearsons loss to the weather. That wouldn't make sense.


I could see where the combination of crappy conditions and a pre-race crash could rattle the athlete a bit, or make her a little tentative and throw off her timing.
ExCoastRanger
 
Posts: 419
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:38 pm
Location: North of where I was.

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:34 pm

ExCoastRanger wrote:
ATK wrote:I will assume people aren't atributting Pearsons loss to the weather. That wouldn't make sense.


I could see where the combination of crappy conditions and a pre-race crash could rattle the athlete a bit, or make her a little tentative and throw off her timing.

Saying the weather had anything to do with it makes no sense because everyone runs in the same conditions. Her pre race crash is a different story.
ATK
 
Posts: 2925
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:00 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby ExCoastRanger » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:52 pm

Crappy conditions and a crash are a lousy combination. In the big picture, to go through it and come out pretty good is probably good experience to have.
ExCoastRanger
 
Posts: 419
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:38 pm
Location: North of where I was.

Re: London DL: w100H—

Postby GDAWG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:20 pm

ATK wrote:
GDAWG wrote:That's right, she finished. Still though, much like Felicien was heading into Athens, she was the favorite, but it was one of the other Americans (in this case it was Dawn Harper) to win the gold medal. Pearson can either break the trend and make winning the gold medal look easy, or for the third straight Olympics, an unlikely American (Kellie Wells) comes away with the gold.

There are no locks in Track and Field at the Olympics this year....except David Rudisha.


Why do you think Wells is an unlikely American? Would you be surprised if she wins?
She is #3 in the world and has only lost to #1 Pearson, #2 Foster-Hylton and the OG champ/undefeated this year Dawn Harper.


She would be an unlikely American to win gold in the eyes of the media who cover this sport. I believe in their predictions, this site had Pearson, Harper and Foster-Hilton as the medalists. I would not be surprised if she wins, but I think a lot of people who cover the sport would be.
GDAWG
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:53 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby leoesharkey » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:44 pm

There are no locks in T & F at the Olympics :!:
leoesharkey
 
Posts: 208
Joined: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:36 pm
Location: England

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby Speedster » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:16 pm

Speedster
 
Posts: 860
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:31 am
Location: London

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:09 am

To me, Pearson is the best hurdler out there, which combines with her very good speed (Lolo might be as fast or even faster but is not the technician Sally is and who is?). Her technique makes her the most reliable in poor weather. However, 'more reliable' is still a bit iffy in poor weather when you are hurdling fast because the constraints are so tight.

Both women ran great times both in the Heats and the Final in those conditions. Normally, a time like 12.59 in those conditions would blow away the field, but Kelly Wells was only 0.03 slower in that Final (and 0.01 came from the start/RT, which was superb for both in both the Heat and the Final at 0.12x and 0.13x).

It is going to be tough on a number of very good hurdlers because they appear to face a very in-form Wells in addition to the almost unbeatable Pearson as well as the very deep field.
26mi235
 
Posts: 14597
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: Madison, WI

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby mump boy » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:18 am

Blues wrote:
Flumpy wrote:I genuinely have no idea what you're going on about :? :?


I was joking. But jammmin/notorious/etc. has become infamous in track and field discussion groups over the years for his blatantly anti-USA and pro-Jamaican propaganda, and for seemingly jumping at the chance to criticize US athletes regardless of whether the facts backed up his criticisms or not.. It was just that your comments and personal wishes regarding US athlete Kellie Wells reminded me of some of his posts.


But his comments had nothing to do with her being American !! :?
mump boy
 
Posts: 5116
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: saaaaaarf london

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby MightyBurner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:25 am

Anyone else thinking that this is looking really good for Dawn?
MightyBurner
 
Posts: 331
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby maroon » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:53 am

MightyBurner wrote:Anyone else thinking that this is looking really good for Dawn?


looking good for anybody in the final. and the u.s. athlete to watch out for is lolo jones. she is going to be very confident if she is in the finals.
maroon
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby MightyBurner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:14 am

What has Lolo Jones done outdoors since 2008 to say that she's going to factor?
MightyBurner
 
Posts: 331
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby maroon » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:29 am

MightyBurner wrote:What has Lolo Jones done outdoors since 2008 to say that she's going to factor?


she made the team, barely. same thing harper did in 2008.
maroon
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby beebee » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:37 am

MightyBurner wrote:What has Lolo Jones done outdoors since 2008 to say that she's going to factor?


ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...IT IS A WET DREAM TO SUGGEST THAT SHE WILL SOMEHOW VAULT OVER MANY LADIES CONSISTENTLY BETTER THAN SHE.
Americans Wells and Harper are clearly far better than Lolo..

And Wells is way sexier :wink:

Yeah I know that this fact pisses off you people conditioned to believe that European beauty concepts are the standard barer of what constitutes beauty. I don't buy into that anti-diversity b.s.
beebee
 
Posts: 172
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:30 pm

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby Alan Shank » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:43 am

beebee wrote:And Wells is way sexier :wink:

Yeah I know that this fact pisses off you people conditioned to believe that European beauty concepts are the standard barer


Please tell me you did that on purpose! >:-)

And, to Marlow, with two marks for Ostapchuk better than Adams', I do not predict, but I WOULD bet on Adams.

I can see Rudisha possibly losing to Aman; the scenario is: he decides to go for a fast time, is just not at his best that day, runs of out gas and gets nipped by Aman, as he did at the end of last season. Unlikely, but...
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA
Alan Shank
 
Posts: 1703
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
Location: N38 40, W 121 52

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby Blues » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:43 pm

mump boy wrote:
Blues wrote:
Flumpy wrote:I genuinely have no idea what you're going on about.


I was joking. But jammmin/notorious/etc. has become infamous in track and field discussion groups over the years for his blatantly anti-USA and pro-Jamaican propaganda, and for seemingly jumping at the chance to criticize US athletes regardless of whether the facts backed up his criticisms or not.. It was just that your comments and personal wishes regarding US athlete Kellie Wells reminded me of some of his posts.


But his comments had nothing to do with her being American !! :?


Maybe, maybe not... But Flump's public wishes for misfortune for a successful American athlete, based solely on association with no evidence of any wrongdoing by her, and when she has no history of PED violations, didn't seem to exhibit much fairness or tolerance. And since it was coming from a non-American, it was reminiscent of a jammmin/notorious post.

If Flumpy honestly would have made the same remarks about a British athlete under similar circumstances, then I guess he's not qualified to be the British jammmin. :wink: . But his post still seems pretty unfair to Kellie Wells, regardless of who she's coached by, or who one of her Star Athletics teammates might be.
Blues
 
Posts: 682
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:58 am

Re: London DL: w100H—Wells beats Pearson

Postby bekayne » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:54 pm

maroon wrote:
MightyBurner wrote:What has Lolo Jones done outdoors since 2008 to say that she's going to factor?


she made the team, barely. same thing harper did in 2008.


Back in 2008, Harper was one of 7 women within .13 of the world leader going into the Olympics.
bekayne
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:40 am
Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada

PreviousNext

Return to Current Events

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], booond, FSUCoachH, Google Feedfetcher, jamboy and 14 guests