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Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby bushop » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:02 pm

Who are the best athletics not competing in London?
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby bushop » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:03 pm

Niklas Arrhenius via Facebook wrote:Niklas Arrhenius July 9
Inget OS/ No Olympics for me.......and Mattias Jons and Philip Nossmy, funny that you can have a A standard, perform in good meets to show that you have a chance to finish in the top 8 and be the best in your country and still not go to the Olympics.


Niklas Arrhenius (discus)
Mattias Jons (hammer)
Philip Nossmy (sprint hurdles)
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby aaronk » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:28 pm

bushop wrote:Who are the best athletics not competing in London?


Paavo Nurmi
Jesse Owens
Vladimir Kuts
Al Oerter
Steve Prefontaine

Um......oh......you meant CURRENT athletes!!!!

:D
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby AS » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:40 pm

David Oliver
Walter Dix
Bershawn Jackson (or is he in the 4x4 squad?)
Adam Nelson
Bryan Clay

Priscilla Lopes-Schliep

Paul Kipsiele Koech
and a bucketload of Kenyan milers, marathoners etc

On the Aussie front, given he's been a pretty consistent world ranker in recent years, Fabrice Lapierre's absence is noticeable (he fell just short of the A-qualifier (8.20!) needed to join our two others 8.20+ leapers).
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby bekayne » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:39 am

Tremaine Harris won the Canadian Trials & just ran 20.22 but he's not going
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby k3ck3c » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:52 am

Pawel Wojciechowski (pole vault) .

Being world champion in Daegu does it mean he does not have to clear 5.72 to got to London ?
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Alan Shank » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:15 am

k3ck3c wrote:Pawel Wojciechowski (pole vault) .

Being world champion in Daegu does it mean he does not have to clear 5.72 to got to London ?


No freebies to the Olympics from the World Championships, as far as meeting the standards goes. Kenya selected their world champions without trial, but they still have to meet Oly standards.

You could include a large number of Ethiopian distance runners in this number, including world champion Ibrahim Jeylan.

Although she is competing in London, Tirunesh Dibaba is a big omission from the 5K. I really don't understand why she was not selected, since she has beaten Defar this year and has beaten Cheruiyot seven times in the 5000, against not a single loss, although she hasn't raced Vivian since London 2010. OTOH, Cheruiyot has beaten Defar in all three of their meetings after 2009. Of course, Dibaba is also the defending champion, which ought to count for something.

Ginnie Crawford (12.59 in Paris) and Danielle Caruthers (silver in Daegu) are also significant non-participants.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby gh » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:24 am

Dibaba is listed as the 5K alternate. If she acquits herself well in the 10K and says she's feeling good a few days later, you can bet the farm that she'll be in the 5.

Pretty sure the Ethiopians have done this before. Maybe even w/ her or Defar.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby TN1965 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:26 am

Alan Shank wrote:Although she is competing in London, Tirunesh Dibaba is a big omission from the 5K. I really don't understand why she was not selected, since she has beaten Defar this year and has beaten Cheruiyot seven times in the 5000, against not a single loss, although she hasn't raced Vivian since London 2010. OTOH, Cheruiyot has beaten Defar in all three of their meetings after 2009. Of course, Dibaba is also the defending champion, which ought to count for something.


I would not be surprised if Tirnesh actually ran 5000m, since she is listed as a "reserve."

Other important omissions include...

Geoffrey Mutai.
Patrick Makau.
Moses Mosop.
Tsegay Kebede.
Eliud Kipchoge.
Sileshi Sihine.
Imane Merga.
Florence Kiplagat.
Meselech Melkamu.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Alan Shank » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:51 am

gh wrote:Dibaba is listed as the 5K alternate. If she acquits herself well in the 10K and says she's feeling good a few days later, you can bet the farm that she'll be in the 5.

Pretty sure the Ethiopians have done this before. Maybe even w/ her or Defar.


Wonder what they told Genet Ayalew (listed as Yalew in your linked article)? If they told her she's running, then switch to Dibaba, it would be pretty nasty. OTOH, maybe they told her that she would be bumped if Dibaba wants to run. Ayalew has a 14:48, but she was only 7th in that race, 3rd Ethiopian (Golden Gala, 5/31).

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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby gh » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 am

The Ethiopian federation doesn't exactly run things as an enlightened democracy. When race time comes, they decide who's in the race and that's pretty much it. And you don't see complaints in the press anywhere.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby TN1965 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:34 am

Bouabdellah Tahri.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby 7of9 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:34 am

Andrew Howe (200m)

he has tha A standard from the 2011 (20.31) but the federation requires the B (20.65) as good form confirmation
at the NC he ran 21.03 -4.5 & 20.76 -1.9
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby pol1990 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:14 pm

Christine Arron.
She isn't going to compete even in relay. I'm surprised.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby norunner » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:30 pm

Some german athletes that did not make it:

Raul Spank, HJ (3rd WC 2009), injured
Georg Fleischhauer, 400H (3rd best european last year), failed A-standard
Karsten Dilla, PV, has A-standard but three others were better
Till Wöschler, JT (U20 WC 2010 and U23 EC 2011), injured
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby pol » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:38 pm

Some Polish international medalists didn't make it too:

Marek Plawgo (3rd WC 2007), he didn't achieved A standard. He is considering his retirement now :(
Kamila Chudzik (3rd WC 2009)
Sylwester Bednarek (3rd WC 2009)
Joanna Wiśniewska (3rd EC 2010)
Lidia Chojecka
Wioletta Frankiewicz-Janowska
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby polevaultpower » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:40 pm

k3ck3c wrote:Pawel Wojciechowski (pole vault) .

Being world champion in Daegu does it mean he does not have to clear 5.72 to got to London ?


He jumped A standard several times within the qualifying window last year. Poland can enter him if they choose.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby EME1980 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:43 pm

Paul Koech the Kenyan Steeplechaser who has run sub-8 twice this year but missed out at the trials because he struggles with altitude.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby pol » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:46 pm

k3ck3c wrote:Pawel Wojciechowski (pole vault) .

Being world champion in Daegu does it mean he does not have to clear 5.72 to got to London ?


He in the team published by Polish Olympic Comitee but there is a condition (he must make A standard till 30.07).
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby doctor sprint » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:48 pm

Nickel Ashmeade
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Alan Shank » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:05 pm

EME1980 wrote:Paul Koech the Kenyan Steeplechaser who has run sub-8 twice this year but missed out at the trials because he struggles with altitude.


Yes, he's one of the most obvious ones; if he were in the team, he would be co-favorite with Kipruto and Kemboi. However, he has made national teams in the past:

2004 3rd Olympic SC 8:06.64
2005 7th WC 8:19.14
2006 1st African championships 8:11.03 (don't know site)
2009 4th WC 8:01.26

Maybe he's being punished because he "let" Bob Tahri beat him for the bronze in Berlin, losing the sweep for Kenya. ??

I don't agree with Dwight that he's the best steeplechaser in the world, but I think he's better than their third guy and would give them an excellent chance for a sweep.

I notice that Koech, Kipruto and Kemboi have each finished 7th in a global championship race, but Koech has never won one, while Kipruto has won two of them and Kemboi three.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Dave » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:09 pm

The American 100m guys who finished 4-8th in the OT final. I suspect they would have made any team other than Jamaica's.

A lot like the Kenyan's or Ethopean's who came in 4-15th in the 5k and 10k at their trials.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby AS » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:47 pm

Alan Shank wrote:
EME1980 wrote:Paul Koech the Kenyan Steeplechaser who has run sub-8 twice this year but missed out at the trials because he struggles with altitude.


Yes, he's one of the most obvious ones;


Which is why I mentioned him about 4th post in to this thread 8-)

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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby pol » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:53 am

Antonietta di Martino is out too :( I feel sorry for her. She is 34 and it was propably her last chance to win an olympic medal...
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby aaronk » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:16 am

I'd say anybody who finished in the top 3 at Trials, but can't go because they didn't have the Oly A standard!!
I'm thinking especially of Natosha Rogers in the women's 10K.
Solution??
Top 3 at Trials go, no matter if they've met the standard by then, BUT.......

give them until one week before the OG to get the standard!!

If they still haven't met it, THEN go with the next A standard person!!!

I think Rogers deserves to go much more than 6th place Bawcom!!
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Grazerism » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:29 am

Nobody has mentioned Jeremy Wariner!

I would include Kristi Castlin, who doesn't have much international experience, but who really challenged Pearson at Oslo. The Trials are merciless!

I may not be up to date, but I don't think German World Jav Champ del Zordo has the qualifier.

And I think German HJer Ariane Friedrich is also out. Before the Berlin WC 2009 a major US news magazine called her "Germany's only track and field star"! She did tie for silver (?) but it was the OTHER Germans who cleaned up!
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby bushop » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:23 pm

RUMOR:
Discus thrower Robert Fazekas has reportedly been left off of the Hungarian London roster.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby AS » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:12 pm

Grazerism wrote:Nobody has mentioned Jeremy Wariner!



Technically he didn't miss the cut. Still in relay squad isn't he?
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Per Andersen » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:23 pm

Grazerism wrote:
I may not be up to date, but I don't think German World Jav Champ del Zordo has the qualifier.

And I think German HJer Ariane Friedrich is also out. Before the Berlin WC 2009 a major US news magazine called her "Germany's only track and field star"! She did tie for silver (?) but it was the OTHER Germans who cleaned up!

Both de Zordo and Ariane Friedrich are on the team. de Zordo has As from last year and Friedrich is going with B (only HJer).
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby AS » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:41 pm

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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby TN1965 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:08 pm

Nancy Langat.
Linet Masai.
Sylvia Kibet.
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Alan Shank » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:51 pm

TN1965 wrote:Nancy Langat.
Linet Masai.
Sylvia Kibet.


Masai ran today, broke 15 in 3rd (?) place. Langat is not in shape, as evidenced in the 15 today. Kibet ran 14:46.xx in Golden Gala, but 4th in Nairobi.

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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:10 am

bushop wrote:RUMOR:
Discus thrower Robert Fazekas has reportedly been left off of the Hungarian London roster.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympi ... -test.html
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby Grazerism » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:59 pm

Funny that no one mentioned Haile Gebrselassie--who was the headline in a British article on the same topic.

Teddy Tamgho!

And now, Blanka Vlasic! :(
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Re: Who Didn't Make the Olympic Cut?

Postby duckedup » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:51 pm

pol1990 wrote:Christine Arron.
She isn't going to compete even in relay. I'm surprised.

:shock: she still competes?
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