Paris DL: w400—Montsho 49.77

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GAYOT Marie FRA

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McCorory Francena USA

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TROTTER Deedee USA

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MONTSHO Amantle BOT

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WILLIAMS-MILLS Novlene JAM

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OHURUOGU Christine GBR

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HURTIS-HOUAIRI Muriel FRA

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WHYTE Rosemarie JAM

[shivfan]

Montsho wins in 49.77.....

Novlene second....

[ATK]

I don't know what to think of Christine Ohuruogu. The announcers were acknowledging her ability to get stronger through rounds as if no one will be able to compete with her in the London final. But it just doesn't look good for her. That seasons best still keeps her out of the top 10 in the world, and with the likes of Montsho, Williams Mills, SRR etc showing they can compete after rounds this year and basically dominate the rest of the competition, I don't see where she really comes into medal contention.

[telf]

Agree re CO... there is no doubt that CO can get down to mid/high 49s in the OG but the big 2 plus any 2 from the Russians + Novlene will be faster.

I can see a 5th or 6th as CO best outcome at the games.

[DCSIGMA]

ATK....i was wondering the same thing...maybe she is hoping that williams-mills, SRR,and montsho will run themselves tired and won't produce...n london

[GP72]

Don't count out CO!

[uakari]

she pulled a miracle run twice out of nowhere, but i really don't think she can do a 3rd one... and she was in better form going into those two events than this year.

[mump boy]

she pulled a miracle run twice out of nowhere, but i really don't think she can do a 3rd one... and she was in better form going into those two events than this year.

She absolutely was not in better form in 07/08 this is the best season she has ever had and the fastest she has ever had on the circuit. She has never run so fast outside of a championships

We all acknowledge that she in nowhere near the others at the moment but she is the one competitor who you can ALWAYS count on the raise her game at the right time

She has runs seasons best at EVERY major champs she has ever been to (apart from Deagu obvs)

2009 50.21 Berlin 18/08/2009
2008 49.62 Beijing (National Stadium) 19/08/2008
2007 49.61 Osaka 29/08/2007
2006 50.28 Melbourne 21/03/2006
2005 50.73 Erfurt 16/07/2005 (european under 23)
2004 50.50 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 21/08/2004

it is the fact that she has never been in such good form before a champs that is getting us excited

[ATK]

it is the fact that she has never been in such good form before a champs that is getting us excited

Bu so is everyone else. Williams-Mills, Montsho, and some Russians all at their best before champs, and SRR only .05 off her best(49.23 before Berlin).

Not saying that CO wont do well, she very likely will do well for herself, but the announcers made it seem as if the rounds will destroy everyone else and CO will be the only one to do well in London. I know there is obviously favoritism towards her since they are British, but maybe if they just put things in perspective a little.

[lexvid]

CO 5th. At best.

[EPelle]

...this is the best season she has ever had and the fastest she has ever had on the circuit. She has never run so fast outside of a championships ...

Perhaps the aforementioned statement was meant to signify that Ohuruogu hadn't run that swiftly prior to a championship. Ohuruogu ran faster than last evening's 50,59 on the circuit in 2009, running 50,43 (Bruxelles) and 50,41 (Zurich), respectively.

[LopenUupunut]

...this is the best season she has ever had and the fastest she has ever had on the circuit. She has never run so fast outside of a championships ...

Perhaps the aforementioned statement was meant to signify that Ohuruogu hadn't run that swiftly prior to a championship. Ohuruogu ran faster than last evening's 50,59 on the circuit in 2009, running 50,43 (Bruxelles) and 50,41 (Zurich), respectively.

But even then it wouldn't be quite true, since she ran 50.56 a few days before Osaka...

This is her fastest non-champs time in an Olympic year though

[EPelle]

This is her fastest non-champs time in an Olympic year though

[fromage]

she pulled a miracle run twice out of nowhere, but i really don't think she can do a 3rd one... and she was in better form going into those two events than this year.

She absolutely was not in better form in 07/08 this is the best season she has ever had and the fastest she has ever had on the circuit. She has never run so fast outside of a championships

We all acknowledge that she in nowhere near the others at the moment but she is the one competitor who you can ALWAYS count on the raise her game at the right time

She has runs seasons best at EVERY major champs she has ever been to (apart from Deagu obvs)

2009 50.21 Berlin 18/08/2009
2008 49.62 Beijing (National Stadium) 19/08/2008
2007 49.61 Osaka 29/08/2007
2006 50.28 Melbourne 21/03/2006
2005 50.73 Erfurt 16/07/2005 (european under 23)
2004 50.50 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 21/08/2004

it is the fact that she has never been in such good form before a champs that is getting us excited

mumps got his flag ready

[John G]

There's no doubt CO has the ability to run her very best when it counts. However, her very best is only 49.6 and the best that will get her is a bronze. She's one of our best ever Championship competitors but isn't even the best ever British W400 runner ((Cook and Merry would have left her for dead and Sanders should have beaten her in 2007).

[Flumpy]

it is the fact that she has never been in such good form before a champs that is getting us excited

Not saying that CO wont do well, she very likely will do well for herself, but the announcers made it seem as if the rounds will destroy everyone else and CO will be the only one to do well in London. I know there is obviously favoritism towards her since they are British, but maybe if they just put things in perspective a little.

No they didn't.

They simply pointed out that an athlete who has a long history of peaking at exactly the right time is in better form at this time of the season than she' ever been.

Sometimes notable thing happen away from the front of the race and her season so far, along with her track record suggest that she may once again be getting it right.

I don't think anyone is expecting her to win or even get a medal but her though her performances this year may seem average anyone who knows their facts will see that she should definitely not be counted out.

[EPelle]

There's no doubt CO has the ability to run her very best when it counts. However, her very best is only 49.6 and the best that will get her is a bronze.

Richards-Ross won the bronze four years back in 49,93. The winning mark? 49,62. Silver? 49,69.

Antyukh won bronze in 2004, running 49,89. Silver? 49,56.

Merry won bronze in 2000, clocking a 49,72. Silver? 49,58.

I'm not an Ohurougu fan, but if she runs her best when it counts, and her best is 49,6, she has a fair opportunity at procuring a silver if the final marks resemble those from the three most recent Games.

[Flumpy]

There's no doubt CO has the ability to run her very best when it counts. However, her very best is only 49.6 and the best that will get her is a bronze.

I'd be over the moon if she won a bronze.

[mump boy]

it is the fact that she has never been in such good form before a champs that is getting us excited

Bu so is everyone else. Williams-Mills, Montsho, and some Russians all at their best before champs, and SRR only .05 off her best(49.23 before Berlin).

Not saying that CO wont do well, she very likely will do well for herself, but the announcers made it seem as if the rounds will destroy everyone else and CO will be the only one to do well in London. I know there is obviously favoritism towards her since they are British, but maybe if they just put things in perspective a little.

But no one else is known for improving dramatically at a champs, in fact most of the others can be counted on to run slower after rounds

I'm making no predictions for TBO just that she will run a SB (probably PB) in London, where that will place her who knows

[mump boy]

...this is the best season she has ever had and the fastest she has ever had on the circuit. She has never run so fast outside of a championships ...

Perhaps the aforementioned statement was meant to signify that Ohuruogu hadn't run that swiftly prior to a championship. Ohuruogu ran faster than last evening's 50,59 on the circuit in 2009, running 50,43 (Bruxelles) and 50,41 (Zurich), respectively.

That is exactly what it was meant to signify, as what she runs after the major championships is irrelevant to this discussion

SHe did tun slightly faster in a small meet prior to Osaka and noting it did me very well when placing bets

[EPelle]

At the time it was every bit relevant, as it was stated she had NEVER run that fast outside of major champs. And had NEVER run that fast on the circuit. Hence, the clarification sought. And reply given.

[LopenUupunut]

Worth noting that the WL ahead of Beijing was 49.83... which would place you 7th on this year's top list! Either everybody else is mispeaking badly or TBO will be up against much tougher opposition this time round.

That said, if she does run 49.6 in the Oly final she might well medal.

[Gabriella]

Worth noting that the WL ahead of Beijing was 49.83... which would place you 7th on this year's top list! Either everybody else is mispeaking badly or TBO will be up against much tougher opposition this time round.

That said, if she does run 49.6 in the Oly final she might well medal.

2008 was a slight anomaly in terms of standard going into an Olympics. 2004 is more akin to what we have this year. So let's compare:

Tonique Williams-Darling ran 49.15 & 49.25 before Athens. She went on to win the Olympic title in 49.41. Of the other two medalists, Anna Guevara ran 49.74 before Athens, then improved to 49.53 for silver at the Olympics. Antyuhk had run 49.85 prior to the Games so was only just off this with her 49.88 bronze.

There were four other sub 50 women that were down on their bests come the Olympic final. Natalya Nazarova and Olga Kotlyarova ran 49.65 and 49.77 respectively prior to Athens, but neither featured. Monique Hennegan had run 49.56 before Athens, then ran 49.97 for 4th in the Olympic final. Sanya Richards-Ross ran 49.89, then 50.19 in the Olympic final for 6th.

2004..........................2012
1st... 49.15 TWD...........49.16 Krivoshapka
2nd... 49.56 Hennegan....49.28 SRR
3rd... 49.65 Nazarova.....49.28 Guschina
4th... 49.74 Guevara......49.54 Montsho
5th... 49.77 Kotlyarova...49.72 Firova
6th... 49.85 Antyuhk......49.78 Williams-Mills
7th... 49.89 SRR...........50.00 Nazarova

But let's not ignore the facts and put Ohuruogu's best in perspective; 49.6 it would have medalled at every major champs 400m this decade. It may not have won gold, but it gets some metal. There is no reason to believe just yet that 49.6 wont get you a medal. So, if she can get to her very best - and it's possible she will actually be better, looking at her form and being on home turf - then she cannot be discounted because she has proven to run her best at major championships. I will bet now that out of the sub 50 secs women at this point in the season they will not be all running sub 50 in London.

[Flumpy]

So, if she can get to her very best - and it's possible she will actually be better, looking at her form and being on home turf - then she cannot be discounted because she has proven to run her best at major championships.

Which is all that anyone is suggesting but of course to some people that's tantamount to hanging a gold medal round her neck

[j-a-m]

Montsho still looking good for silver; should be tough for anyone other than SRR to beat her.

[Flumpy]

Montsho is looking extremely good and very consistent. I can see a big PB coming in the not so disant future.

I think Sanya may have a fight on her hands.

[ldnbloke]

Well if Ohurougu doesn't win, Montsho is my second choice. Whatevs, even the Russians would be preferable to Richards-Ross.
Still hoping the rounds will exhaust everybody and TBO will stroll first to the finish line probably with half a second to a second in reserve she could've run faster but didn't as she won anyway !!!

[jazzcyclist]

Well if Ohurougu doesn't win, Montsho is my second choice. Whatevs, even the Russians would be preferable to Richards-Ross.

What did Sanya do to earn your hatred?

[ATK]

Sanya Monsho and Williams Mills probably look the best because of their consistency, their fast times and they have proven to run fast after round this year.
I will bet on CO before I make any on the Russians.

[noxeht12]

Sanya Monsho and Williams Mills probably look the best because of their consistency, their fast times and they have proven to run fast after round this year.
I will bet on CO before I make any on the Russians.

Krivoshopka at the very least will challenge for a medal among the Russians.

[ATK]

Sanya Monsho and Williams Mills probably look the best because of their consistency, their fast times and they have proven to run fast after round this year.
I will bet on CO before I make any on the Russians.

Krivoshopka at the very least will challenge for a medal among the Russians.

Everyone in lanes 1-8 will challenge for a medal.

Being at home, CO has a better chance than the Russians.

[jazzcyclist]

Is CO being promoted as the UK's Kathy Freeman? If not her, who is the most likely candidate to do for the Brits what Freeman, Fermion Cacho and Fani Halkia did, and what Lui Xiang was supposed do, for their respective countries?

[ATK]

Is CO being promoted as the UK's Kathy Freeman? If not her, who is the most likely candidate to do for the Brits what Freeman, Fermion Cacho and Fani Halkia did, and what Lui Xiang was supposed do, for their respective countries?

I would say Mo Farah ia a better pick.

[Flumpy]

There's hardly any talk of TBO in the UK press.

Our Gold medal chances are generally seen to be........

Mo
Jess
Dai
Phillips (Possibly injured)
Robbie Grabarz

More or less in that order.

The person getting the most coverage is Jess who is currently EVERWHERE!!!

[ldnbloke]

I really wish that at least one of our unheralded ones wins in London
Ohurougu
Dobriskey
England
Porter
Rutherford/Tomlinson
42.195 ladies.
Medals could unexpectedly come from:
110 h boys pending DQs and similar like in Daegu
I also think Parker in 300o st can possibly be promoted to a medal.