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What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Wed May 16, 2012 2:05 am

I know she has been having a couple of rough years since 09 but I thought that her 51.42 in Jan indicated that she was heading in the right direction. I know she cramped up in a 400 meter about a month ago. Does anyone know if that was an injury? She is really underperforming so far this year with 11.28 and 11.22. If we are not seeing front end speed I hope we at leas see some sort of speed endurance in the 200 tomorrow.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby pakillo » Wed May 16, 2012 2:29 am

I was hoping for the same but she has just been DQed due to false start
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:40 pm

Sherone I am giving you one more chance but after New York you line a go get cut.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JR10.74 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:32 am

Sherone needs to relax and stop think of the past i do believe she is one of the fastest women this world has ever seen, she just needs to stop doubting herself the power is there you have being silent for a long time talking to yourself its time to unleash the power within you are build to last past 10.74
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:08 am

Sorry. I wouldn't hold my breath. It seems she's done or in the words of her fellow Jamaicans "shi dun".
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JWiz » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:34 am

Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:36 am

JWiz wrote:Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.



except Sherone had more talent than Lauryn in her prime.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JR10.74 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:59 am

Well the saying goes belief kills and it cure redemption is coming she is not finish yet or "dun" what do you notice even if she is running last she keeps on coming back an showing up, i tell you this some thing is building in this woman an its going to explode sooner than we all think or say the body as not given up nor the mind it just waiting for the point when everything becomes one "pressure, heat, fire and natural talent.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:32 pm

fasttrack85 wrote:
JWiz wrote:Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.



except Sherone had more talent than Lauryn in her prime.


:? ?

I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby ATK » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:12 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:
fasttrack85 wrote:
JWiz wrote:Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.



except Sherone had more talent than Lauryn in her prime.


:? ?

I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.

I don't believe talent and success are the same thing.

Williams has been more successful, but Simpson was definitely more talented.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:16 am

TrackDaddy wrote:I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby jamaica50 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:14 am

Simpson had an injury scare this year when she stopped running after 300m in a 400m race in Kingston.

Simpson has had numerous surgeries over the years.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JR10.74 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:00 am

Well i believe these injures and surgeries are creating a mental block and she just needs to put them behind her in the starting blocks an push her way to the finish line and there is no comparison between williams and Simpson. Sherone as far more talent than what meets the eye.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby ATK » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:18 am

TrackDaddy wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

Like I said Simpson was more talented, Williams had more success.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:31 pm

ATK wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

Like I said Simpson was more talented, Williams had more success.


Yep.

Its essentially the same thing I said.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby ATK » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:40 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:
ATK wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

Like I said Simpson was more talented, Williams had more success.


Yep.

Its essentially the same thing I said.

So why were you confused with the statement by the original poster that Simpson has more talent than Williams...?
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:35 am

TrackDaddy wrote:
fasttrack85 wrote:
JWiz wrote:Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.



except Sherone had more talent than Lauryn in her prime.


:? ?

I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.



You of all people should know the difference between talent and opportunistic success a.k.a luck. There is a really good female 400 meter runner who has yet to win an olympic gold medal but is probably the best in the world for the last five years. She is clearly the most talented but unfortunately not the most successful. You may have heard of her.

BTW Sherone has more talent than Lauryn Williams by a mile. If the olympics was held in 2006 it would have been clear to everyone. Running 10.82 into a hurricane is not lightwork.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JWiz » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:28 pm

Don't know what has happened to both her and Kerron. They can't even seem to break 11sec anymore. They need to be in at least 2008 form for us to even sniff gold in the 4x100m.

Then again, I was thinking the same about Shelly a couple weeks back and she blew me away in NY. Here's to hoping Sherone and Kerron have similar results. 8-)
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby JWiz » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:30 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.


*snaps fingers*

Oh nooo he didint!!

You wanna throw down! Lets throw down! Lets talk about that sorry ass weave Sanya been sporting since the other day. :D
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:35 am

ATK wrote:So why were you confused with the statement by the original poster that Simpson has more talent than Williams...?


I wasn't confused, friend. My statement acknowledged both Simpson's talent and Williams' success. Then you clarified that success and talent are different-true-but I've never argued against that. Read your statement about success/talent and then my self quoted post that follows...they essentially say the same thing. Only...I typed mine first.

To the point...there's no comparing these two but not just because someone thinks Sherone is more talented, another reason is because Lauryn's had much more success.

I take exception with the notion that Sherrone was becoming someone's Lauryn (indicating some type of failure). Seems folk have forgotten how many national teams Lauryn has made and her medal count.

Most sprinters would LOVE to have had the global success of a Lauryn Williams, who knows...Sherone may be included. So we can project all we want about someone's "talent" but success is conclusive.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:02 am

fasttrack85 wrote:You of all people should know the difference between talent and opportunistic success a.k.a luck. There is a really good female 400 meter runner who has yet to win an olympic gold medal but is probably the best in the world for the last five years. She is clearly the most talented but unfortunately not the most successful. You may have heard of her.

BTW Sherone has more talent than Lauryn Williams by a mile. If the olympics was held in 2006 it would have been clear to everyone. Running 10.82 into a hurricane is not lightwork.


Yes, I know the difference, friend.I'm struggling to understand what I typed that leads folk to think otherwise? :?

I have a different reason than you but my WHOLE POINT was that Sherone doesn't = Lauryn.

Jokers be typing smack, but they can only dream about Sherone being their "Lauryn." :D

Therefore, our talent DOES NOT equal success equation looks like this:

Lauryn > Sherone.

Sanya doesn't fit your analogy because she's achieved a level of success (WC, AR, AOYx2, etc) that journeyman athletes like Sheron can only dream about. I don't care if Sherone once ran 10.82 in the heart of a Siberian blizzard...uh...just stop it. No. The only thing Sherone has done consistently...over a period of time is...not sustain that level of performance.

If you want to discuss Xman or someone else who has immense talent, run a few fast times but for whatever reason had trouble doing it consistently...lets talk.

As for the whole "400m runner who has yet to win an olympic gold medal blah blah blah" well, a lot of people who are the best at what they do have "yet to win an olympic gold medal" and some never will. In my mind, Sanya only has one missed opportunity in 08 and she was given the bronze for her effort. But its not like the opportunity comes along weekly.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:02 am

TrackDaddy wrote:
fasttrack85 wrote:
JWiz wrote:Unfortunately, she is fast becoming our Lauryn Williams.



except Sherone had more talent than Lauryn in her prime.


:? ?

I'm not so sure, friend.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:05 am

*Sigh*

So you're the media now? Taking sections of statements to alter the context? :lol:

Read the next sentence friend.

It explains the first.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:14 am

JWiz wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.


*snaps fingers*

Oh nooo he didint!!

You wanna throw down! Lets throw down! Lets talk about that sorry ass weave Sanya been sporting since the other day. :D


You didn't like her hair, jw? I thought it was beautiful!

The more I think about it...she'd look good barefooted, wearing a potato sack with a shaved head.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:15 am

Problem is no one brought up anything about her career. It was her talent that was addressed...
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:27 am

ATK wrote:Problem is no one brought up anything about her career. It was her talent that was addressed...


Yes, I agree that was a problem. The atmosphere didn't allow for full disclosure of relevant information regarding both athletes and was condescending in Lauryn's direction.

So the intent of my post was to clarify the situation in its entirety and to put to bed the foolish notion that Sherone's failures could put her in the same sentence with Lauryn.

The TRUTH is neither her successes nor her failures could do that. Therefore the analogy was poor from the beginning.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby toyracer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:54 am

TrackDaddy wrote:
JWiz wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.


*snaps fingers*

Oh nooo he didint!!

You wanna throw down! Lets throw down! Lets talk about that sorry ass weave Sanya been sporting since the other day. :D


You didn't like her hair, jw? I thought it was beautiful!

The more I think about it...she'd look good barefooted, wearing a potato sack with a shaved head.


It wasn't her hair TD...her hair was beneath what you were seeing.

I've never understood the whole false hair thing, and she is actually proud of it.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby shivfan » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:47 am

JWiz wrote:Don't know what has happened to both her and Kerron. They can't even seem to break 11sec anymore. They need to be in at least 2008 form for us to even sniff gold in the 4x100m.

Then again, I was thinking the same about Shelly a couple weeks back and she blew me away in NY. Here's to hoping Sherone and Kerron have similar results. 8-)

I'm also worried about Sherone and Kerron....

I can't help feeling that Brooks and McLaughlin may push them at the Trials.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby fasttrack85 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:01 pm

I am very happy with Sherone 11.01 and 4th place finish. It shows she is peaking slowly and was being cautious all season but three great women were just better. She should be able to make it in the 200 meters especially if either Kerron or Shelly don't run.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby noxeht12 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:06 pm

fasttrack85 wrote:I am very happy with Sherone 11.01 and 4th place finish. It shows she is peaking slowly and was being cautious all season but three great women were just better. She should be able to make it in the 200 meters especially if either Kerron or Shelly don't run.


I think she has McClaughlan to worry about as well. All in all though. I am glad to see that Sherone was able to pull a good race together when it counted.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby shivfan » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:41 am

shivfan wrote:
JWiz wrote:Don't know what has happened to both her and Kerron. They can't even seem to break 11sec anymore. They need to be in at least 2008 form for us to even sniff gold in the 4x100m.

Then again, I was thinking the same about Shelly a couple weeks back and she blew me away in NY. Here's to hoping Sherone and Kerron have similar results. 8-)

I'm also worried about Sherone and Kerron....

I can't help feeling that Brooks and McLaughlin may push them at the Trials.

Well, I can certainly speak some crap at times....
:oops:
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby TrackDaddy » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:53 am

toyracer wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:
JWiz wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:I'm not so sure, friend.

I dont' believe Sherone, for all her talent, has had the career Lauryn has had.

If she could "become your Lauryn" that would actually be a compliment.

At this point it doesnt look good as she needs to win more first.


*snaps fingers*

Oh nooo he didint!!

You wanna throw down! Lets throw down! Lets talk about that sorry ass weave Sanya been sporting since the other day. :D


You didn't like her hair, jw? I thought it was beautiful!

The more I think about it...she'd look good barefooted, wearing a potato sack with a shaved head.


It wasn't her hair TD...her hair was beneath what you were seeing.

I've never understood the whole false hair thing, and she is actually proud of it.

Sanya and her sister are co-owners of http://www.thehairclinicaustin.com/ which is a very nice trendy salon in Austin. I believe they sell products too.

What better model than Sanya with her looks talent and visibility?

Extensions are a huge part of that market so over time people have come to embrace them.

Chris Rock did a documentary on the whole hair thing but I cant remember the name of it.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby DentyCracker » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:40 am

Sherone 11.01 (4th) and 22.66 in the 200 semis, can she get a spot in the individual 200m? I think she should go 2-4 from next year. I think she is potentially better than Shericka going 400
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby noxeht12 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:58 am

DentyCracker wrote:Sherone 11.01 (4th) and 22.66 in the 200 semis, can she get a spot in the individual 200m? I think she should go 2-4 from next year. I think she is potentially better than Shericka going 400


Co-Sign.

I think her only problem making the 200 team this year is Anniesha though.... I think Anniesha is primed for a serious PB behind VCB and SAFP
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby toyracer » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:10 am

noxeht12 wrote:
DentyCracker wrote:Sherone 11.01 (4th) and 22.66 in the 200 semis, can she get a spot in the individual 200m? I think she should go 2-4 from next year. I think she is potentially better than Shericka going 400


Co-Sign.

I think her only problem making the 200 team this year is Anniesha though.... I think Anniesha is primed for a serious PB behind VCB and SAFP


Kerron Stewart cannot be counted out. It is going to be quite a race for that third spot.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby noxeht12 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:14 pm

Name Age Team Finals Wind
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Finals
1 Fraser-Pryce, Shelly-Ann Unattached 22.10 0.6
2 Simpson, Sherone Mvp Track Club 22.37 0.6
3 Campbell-Brown, Veronica Unattached 22.42 0.6
4 McLaughlin, Anneisha Unattached 22.61 0.6
5 Stewart, Kerron Unattached 22.70 0.6
6 Henry-Robinson, Samantha Unattached 22.77 0.6
7 Bailey, Aleen Unattached 22.84 0.6

Beating VCB... The time looks about right to me....
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:55 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:Chris Rock did a documentary on the whole hair thing but I cant remember the name of it.

It's called Good Hair.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby Deluxe » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:05 pm

Sherone is immensely talented, but it's no secret that she doesn't train hard. She's very lazy and too girlie to do her weights. Everything that she has accomplished is almost entirely on her raw talent.

She fought hard in this race today and runs with spirit, but takes too many short cuts in training.
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby Vault-emort » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:12 pm

DentyCracker wrote:I think she is potentially better ....going 400


Deluxe wrote:Sherone is immensely talented, but it's no secret that she doesn't train hard. She's very lazy....takes too many short cuts in training.


Does not compute :P
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Re: What's going on with Sherone Simpson?

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:25 pm

So is VCB at 22.42/0.6 really a lock to beat AF at 21.69/1.0?
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