¶2012OT mPV—Brad Walker 18-7¼ (5.67)

[Marlow]

Fair enough, but the results are not likely to be good.

The forecast is party sunny and over 70!!

[polevaultpower]

The big question tomorrow in terms of weather will be wind. I've seen it numerous times where they set up the pit with the wind, and it changes right after the bar goes up.

If the guys can get a nice tailwind, we might yet see someone else get over 5.72. If the wind sucks, we'll probably see some depressingly low heights make the team.

I discuss some jump-off scenarios here: http://polevaultpower.com/forum/viewtop ... =2&t=24025

[gh]

This is Eugene: with the rain gone, 100% chance of wind, 75% chance of its being a PV tailwind.

[Conor Dary]

This is Eugene: with the rain gone, 100% chance of wind, 75% chance of its being a PV tailwind.

Hot Dog! 20 feet!

[gh]

well, not really.... also better than a 50% chance that there will be a variance of a couple of meters per second, which while not as bad as a head/tail shift still can make it problematic to hit one's steps (hence the original subject line)

[Dave]

This is Eugene: with the rain gone, 100% chance of wind, 75% chance of its being a PV tailwind.

Hot Dog! 20 feet!

At least most athletes are likely to make their opening height. That would be a nice improvement over the prelims. And yes, it would be really nice to see Brad do something impressive.

[Cooter Brown]

Hot Dog! 20 feet!

Well, there are a couple of guys in that field that can kick a 20 foot bar. Does that count?

[Marlow]

Hot Dog! 20 feet!

Well, there are a couple of guys in that field that can kick a 20 foot bar. Does that count?

I have often seen (and Becca will back me up on this) vaulters comnpletely get their hips over a bungee 1 or even 2 feet over their PRs. There's a famous video of Bubka well over 21'. The problem is they would have hit a real bar with their legs going up or their chests going down.

[polevaultpower]

I will be live tweeting every jump! https://twitter.com/#!/polevaultpower

[gh]

wind on the first 6 TJs (same direction as PV)

1.0
-0.4
1.1
1.1
1.0
1.0

very good news if it holds

[Cooter Brown]

Interesting dynamic in the vault right now. 2 guys without A's have passed 5.67 to try the A of 5.72. However, the 3 guys with an A have to jump at 5.67 to assure they beat the other two A's just in case those interlopers clear the A later.

[Cooter Brown]

And it ends with a wimper.

Probably one of the few times the 4th place finisher feels much better than the 3rd placer.

Is 5.67 the lowest winning height since '80 or '84?

[Randy Treadway]

Doesn't Roth have a few more days to try to get an A? I thought USATF's web site says July 1st, while the Olympic Games website says July 8th.
In any case, he could fly somewhere there's a meet in the next 3 or 4 days, couldn't he?
If he got an A, wouldn't he bump Miles because Miles finished 4th tonight?

[j-a-m]

Doesn't Roth have a few more days to try to get an A?

No, not this year. No chasing of A standards once the event is over (even though the IOC deadline is a couple weeks later).

[gh]

Not in '08 either: once again I emphasize that this is a USOC-imposed deadline. With the world's largest team to process, they feel speed is of the essence.

Note in a story that we posted to the front page yesterday that athletes are averaging 2-3 hours downtown at the Hilton being processed after the meet. Multiply that by all the athletes in all the sports....

In any case, history has shown us that people who chase marks never do anything in the Games anyway, so they have little/no motivation to add a few people to the team just for the sake of adding them.

[j-a-m]

In any case, history has shown us that people who chase marks never do anything in the Games anyway, so they have little/no motivation to add a few people to the team just for the sake of adding them.

Has it ever been discussed to allow limited marks chasing only for the winner at Trials? That would still allow 95 % of athletes to be processed, but would give a guy like Humphreys (or Brooks without his 6th attempt) a few days.

[KevinM]

In any case, history has shown us that people who chase marks never do anything in the Games anyway, so they have little/no motivation to add a few people to the team just for the sake of adding them.

We're less than a year removed from a post-Trials chaser medaling at the WC.

[Marlow]

Note in a story that we posted to the front page yesterday that athletes are averaging 2-3 hours downtown at the Hilton being processed after the meet. Multiply that by all the athletes in all the sports...

But certainly during that period they are not processing ONE athlete, they are processing large groups. In this day and age, I can't believe that we are compromising our Olympic team over bureaucratic red-tape, but then again, paper-psuhers run the world . . .

Allowing chasing is not about getting more medal prospects THESE games, it's abnout getting some new people on the team, so that NEXT time they are better prepared.

[j-a-m]

But certainly during that period they are not processing ONE athlete, they are processing large groups. In this day and age, I can't believe that we are compromising our Olympic team over bureaucratic red-tape, but then again, paper-psuhers run the world . . .

Tianna Madison even said it her four hours to go through processing.

[Marlow]

But certainly during that period they are not processing ONE athlete, they are processing large groups. In this day and age, I can't believe that we are compromising our Olympic team over bureaucratic red-tape, but then again, paper-psuhers run the world . . .

Tianna Madison even said it her four hours to go through processing.

When I got 'processed' by the US Navy to go overseas, it took all morning - four hours - but over 40 of us were being processed simultaneously.

[j-a-m]

When I got 'processed' by the US Navy to go overseas, it took all morning - four hours - but over 40 of us were being processed simultaneously.

I'd guess all athletes that make the team on a given day go through processing together the next day. No idea how it works with coaches.

[gh]

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But certainly during that period they are not processing ONE athlete, they are processing large groups. In this day and age, I can't believe that we are compromising our Olympic team over bureaucratic red-tape, but then again, paper-psuhers run the world . . .....

it's tough to do a group travel plan when the athletes are all from different cities. And you can't "group process" a passport vetting. Or a visit with a tailor to make sure all your gear fits properly: they do that right, not cheap-shit off-the-rack just grab one.

And so on and so on.

[Marlow]

it's tough to do a group travel plan when the athletes are all from different cities. And you can't "group process" a passport vetting. Or a visit with a tailor to make sure all your gear fits properly: they do that right, not cheap-shit off-the-rack just grab one.
And so on and so on.

I get all that, but this timeline is a bureaucratic one, not an athlete-friendly one, and guess which one they SHOULD be concerned with? We're not talking about a LOT of athetes that would be chasing marks. They should get a later window. I have this problem all the time at school and it drives me crazy. People want to do what is best for the teachers or the institution, while my only concern is the students!