Jamaica Olympic Trials

[reggaemon]

I cant wait for the jamaican olympic trials. Is there anyone else here who thinks Asafa may be the odd man out? I really hope he will qualify along with Bolt and Blake but my gut instinct is that Carter or someone like Dexter Lee is waiting to spring a surprise.

[tandfman]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

[notorious]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

There is no “pre-selection” at the Jamaica Olympic Trials.

In the sprints, the Jamaica trials should be a lot more exciting than the US trials especially if the top guys are on form.

Mens 100
Bolt
Blake
Asafa
Cater
Frater

Womens 100
Veronica
Fraser
Stewart
Sherone

The Jamaican men and women will be ready come Olympic Trials. They don’t give out gold medals at Penn Relays and thus, there was no need go crazy there.

In the 2008 Olympic trials in Jamaica, 4 women went under 10.90 and Veronica only ran 10.88 for 4th place in the 100m. Just to show you how competitive it was then and will be come June.
BTW, the Jamaica and US Olympic trials will both be the last weekend in June.

[Speedster]

Its going to be a great event, but to be clear, its not three past the post like the US Olympic trials? If Bolt was hurt, could they add him at a later date if he missed the trials?

[Grasshopper]

In the sprints, the Jamaica trials should be a lot more exciting than the US trials especially if the top guys are on form.

Mens 100
Bolt
Blake
Asafa
Cater
Frater

Womens 100
Veronica
Fraser
Stewart
Sherone

Shouldn't your post read "In the 100m..."? The last time I checked, "the sprints" also included the 200m, 400m, and both hurdle races. Maybe things are different in Jamaica.

[jazzcyclist]

There is no “pre-selection” at the Jamaica Olympic Trials.

In the sprints, the Jamaica trials should be a lot more exciting than the US trials especially if the top guys are on form.

Mens 100
Bolt
Blake
Asafa
Cater
Frater

Womens 100
Veronica
Fraser
Stewart
Sherone

The Jamaican men and women will be ready come Olympic Trials. They don’t give out gold medals at Penn Relays and thus, there was no need go crazy there.

In the 2008 Olympic trials in Jamaica, 4 women went under 10.90 and Veronica only ran 10.88 for 4th place in the 100m. Just to show you how competitive it was then and will be come June.
BTW, the Jamaica and US Olympic trials will both be the last weekend in June.

Trying to compare the Jamaican trials to the U.S. trials is a fool's errand. Jamaica will hold a sprint meet while the U.S. will hold a track and field meet. In 2008, the men's 100 final looked like a heat. Nobody summed up the difference between the two meets better than Ato Boldon on his forum when he had to smack down another fan wearing bllack, green and yellow googles:

Demar the best race of the USA trials meet has been an 800m - so this is clearly not just about sprints - I don't know what the argument is about.

No-one in their right mind would try to compare this meet to any other. Trying to push the times argument is also ridiculous since a great meet is not defined just by times. The big BOLT v POWELL showdown was "exciting"?? It was a big, fast, bore!

No one cared about the times in that 800m although it was won in 1:44 and that was one of the greatest races I have seen in decades. A guy falling aross the line to get the A standard he needs, beating the defending champ into 4th while securing the final spot on the team, a college sophomore who didn't run high school track beating grown men on his home track at his own school to get second and a guy who is the 2nd coming of Steve Prefontaine with 800 speed winning going away in the city he lives and trains in. Oregon athletes go 1-2-3 in Track City, Oregon! You couldn't have written that better. It sounded like a soccer stadium!

No-one cared what the time was, and to be quite honest the Jamaican trials have had 2 good races - and I have seen them all - womens 100 and womens 200. Period. Men's 100 looked like a heat, 200 was a blowout joke.

Quit while you are ahead, please.

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[chuku69]

No surprise here. I think he should do like what Tyson Gay is doing. Just show up @ trials to run to preserve his body. Both he and Gay are almost 30 yrs old. I would be surprise if any of these 2 fires a 9.75 or lower.

[beebee]

After the men's and lady's 100, 200, 400 and the 400 hurdles, the Jamacian Oly trials may as well be in Iceland.

[shivfan]

So what?

I look forward to watching the Kenyan trials, not for the sprints and the field events, but just to see what performances are put out from the 800m onwards. Similarly, the Jamaica trials are interesting just to see what performances are put out in the events shorter than the 800m.

Does anyone know when the Olympic trials are scheduled to be held?

EDIT: I found it....

"June 28 - July 1 - The fastest race in the world could be the 100m final at the Jamaican Olympic trials in Kingston. Usain Bolt and world champion Yohan Blake head the classy field."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympi ... z1wuUJCsMi

[ATK]

I don.t see how anything right now that has indicated that anyone will knock Powell out of the 3rd spot.
Carter is running pretty sub-par this year so far. Frater has run a few races, in the 10.0+ range, Clarke has not be consistent. Powell has beat all three of them this year.

Ashmeade is probably the only one that will give him a run but I cant see him beating Powell.

When is the last time Powell lost to any of these athletes? Every time they race, Powell always comes out on top. He may be behind Blake and Bolt in both times and competition, but when it comes to straight competition against the lower tier Jamaicans, Powell has not and most likely will not loose to these guys.

[preston]

Let's hope that Nesta Carter has returned to his 9.7/9.8 form and Frater can be high 9.8 again so that this race can be kept honest. Otherwise, Bolt, Powelll and Blake will just jog when they see they have the 3 places in the bag...

[jazzcyclist]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

Exciting? Did you see the 2008 Jamaican men's 100 final? It looked like first round heat it was so pathetic.

[preston]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

Exciting? Did you see the 2008 Jamaican men's 100 final? It looked like first round heat it was so pathetic.

jazz, you're not seriously trying to compare what happened in 2008 to what can happen in 2012? 2012 doesn't have the talent discrepancy that 2008 had. Bolt and Powell will be forced to run, as will Blake, Carter, and Frater or whoever else makes that final.

[jazzcyclist]

jazz, you're not seriously trying to compare what happened in 2008 to what can happen in 2012? 2012 doesn't have the talent discrepancy that 2008 had. Bolt and Powell will be forced to run, as will Blake, Carter, and Frater or whoever else makes that final.

I thought they would run in 2008, but I was wrong. Americans run hard to the finish line in the Olympic Trials regardless of how dominant they are.

[ATK]

jazz, you're not seriously trying to compare what happened in 2008 to what can happen in 2012? 2012 doesn't have the talent discrepancy that 2008 had. Bolt and Powell will be forced to run, as will Blake, Carter, and Frater or whoever else makes that final.

I thought they would run in 2008, but I was wrong. Americans run hard to the finish line in the Olympic Trials regardless of how dominant they are.

I agree, and watching the 2008 race again, it really did look like a 1st round heat.
But this year will be very different. I hope. Bolt will probably run considering he has never run with Blake and doesn't know what he could do in a race with him. Same for Blake. Powell should since he will most likely be behind those two at half way, and everyone else will have no choice but to run.
Bolt is the only one who I think will relax if he can see that he is safe.

[preston]

jazz, you're not seriously trying to compare what happened in 2008 to what can happen in 2012? 2012 doesn't have the talent discrepancy that 2008 had. Bolt and Powell will be forced to run, as will Blake, Carter, and Frater or whoever else makes that final.

I thought they would run in 2008, but I was wrong. Americans run hard to the finish line in the Olympic Trials regardless of how dominant they are.

That's because US trials are normally competitive. Bolt and Powell were only doing enough to win; only this time they will probably have to give at least 9.7 effort if everyone is healthy and ready.

[Dave]

I still maintain that the Jamaican OT and the US OT may be more interesting to watch than the OG itself(prior to the Olympic final). As someone else pointed out, the US races are always very competitive and the top Jamaican sprinters are ALL going to have to run a serious race to make the team.

I don't think anyone is a lock for the 100. if Bolt has an off day there will be plenty of others who won't. We may see the same sort of carnage in Jamaica that the USOTs are famous for.

It should be interesting.

[jazzcyclist]

I thought they would run in 2008, but I was wrong. Americans run hard to the finish line in the Olympic Trials regardless of how dominant they are.

That's because US trials are normally competitive. Bolt and Powell were only doing enough to win; only this time they will probably have to give at least 9.7 effort if everyone is healthy and ready.

It has nothing to do with competitiveness. Did you miss the last part of my statement - REGARDLESS OF HOW DOMINANT THEY ARE? Michael Johnson never let up in an Olympic Trials final and he even set a world record in 1996. He could have preened and profiled the way Bolt and Powell did, but he understood that he was there to put on a show for the fans. I know it may sound crazy to care about the fans and honor the event and all that old-fashioned stuff, but I guess Americans are just funny like that.

[jazzcyclist]

I still maintain that the Jamaican OT and the US OT may be more interesting to watch than the OG itself(prior to the Olympic final).

Only a person who only cares about the sprints would agree this statement. The U.S. Trials lags behind the Olympics because of the women's field events and the men's javelin, discus and hammer, but the Jamaican trials are weak in everything except the sprints, the long jump the women's middle distance and maybe the decathlon. Do the Jamaican Trials even have a women's pole vault or javelin throw?

[Dave]

I still maintain that the Jamaican OT and the US OT may be more interesting to watch than the OG itself(prior to the Olympic final).

Only a person who only cares about the sprints would agree this statement. The U.S. Trials lags behind the Olympics because of the women's field events and the men's javelin, discus and hammer, but the Jamaican trials are weak in everything except the sprints, the long jump the women's middle distance and maybe the decathlon. Do the Jamaican Trials even have a women's pole vault or javelin throw?

Sorry. My context for that statement was purely the sprints. I should have been explicit in saying so. The Jamaican OT and USOT in the sprints are a lot like Kenyan distance trials. That is where the action will be. Talent in other events is much better distributed throughout the world.

[shivfan]

I cant wait for the jamaican olympic trials. Is there anyone else here who thinks Asafa may be the odd man out? I really hope he will qualify along with Bolt and Blake but my gut instinct is that Carter or someone like Dexter Lee is waiting to spring a surprise.

Can we get away from the putdowns, and actually address the issue reggaemon raised above?

I think it should be a 1-2-3 for Bolt, Powell and Blake, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ashmeade threw a spanner in the works. This race looks very interesting....

I'm also interested in the women's 100m. VCB and SAF seem to have the first two places tied up, but who will take the third? Kerron Stewart? Sherone Simpson? Sherri-Ann Brooks? Anneisha McLaughlin?

[chivez]

I don.t see how anything right now that has indicated that anyone will knock Powell out of the 3rd spot.
Carter is running pretty sub-par this year so far. Frater has run a few races, in the 10.0+ range, Clarke has not be consistent. Powell has beat all three of them this year.

Ashmeade is probably the only one that will give him a run but I cant see him beating Powell.

When is the last time Powell lost to any of these athletes? Every time they race, Powell always comes out on top. He may be behind Blake and Bolt in both times and competition, but when it comes to straight competition against the lower tier Jamaicans, Powell has not and most likely will not loose to these guys.

I don't see that Powell is behind Blake yet. It will happen, maybe soon. Its not be been proven yet. If anything, all that has been proven is that they are on a par this year. However we know that Powell is a sub 9.8s man. Whereas Blake still has that to prove. He doesn't have the height that Powell does either.

So i'd really say the ball is is still in Powells side of the court on this. Age is not on his side over the next few years though.

For the excitement of the sport though, it'd be nice to have many sub 9.8s runners.

[t_monk]

I cant wait for the jamaican olympic trials. Is there anyone else here who thinks Asafa may be the odd man out? I really hope he will qualify along with Bolt and Blake but my gut instinct is that Carter or someone like Dexter Lee is waiting to spring a surprise.

Can we get away from the putdowns, and actually address the issue reggaemon raised above?

I think it should be a 1-2-3 for Bolt, Powell and Blake, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ashmeade threw a spanner in the works. This race looks very interesting....

I'm also interested in the women's 100m. VCB and SAF seem to have the first two places tied up, but who will take the third? Kerron Stewart? Sherone Simpson? Sherri-Ann Brooks? Anneisha McLaughlin?

Ashmead is not running the 100m this year. He is focusing slowly on the 200.

[fromage]

Ask any athlete in the sprints or any other event , What is your top ambition? It certainly aint to win their national Olympic Trials; just to be Olympic Champion ... so all the rest of the stuff on this thread about Trials and their importance must be seen in the light of the OG themselves... how much faster or better the various national Trials events are than the OG themselves amounts to nothing more than codswallop .

[jamaica50]

Jamaica Olympic Trials schedule


http://members.jainvite.com/schedule/

[doctor sprint]

I cant wait for the jamaican olympic trials. Is there anyone else here who thinks Asafa may be the odd man out? I really hope he will qualify along with Bolt and Blake but my gut instinct is that Carter or someone like Dexter Lee is waiting to spring a surprise.

I will be surprise if Dexter Lee will run a sub 10 !!! why i am saying that because we already see that Lee is struggling to run a middle 10.1 with no wind!!! that's is crazy ....i mean this guy his the most prized youngsteer of All-Times !!! WITH 1 WYOUTH CHAMPIONSHIP AND 2 WJUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP over 100m!!!! but still can't run a 10.0 or 9.9.... he was beating Ashmeade everytime they were racing each others ...now what???? i even d0n't know if he will be in the final cause guys like k.b cole,o.bailey,s.mitchell,j.harvey,j.forte,n.watson could challenge him for a place in final....so let see ....

Ashmeade will not run the 100m at TRIALS !!!! that was a good decision for him!!!! he is the 3 favourite in 200m but becarfull on WEIR!!!!

[jazzcyclist]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

There is no “pre-selection” at the Jamaica Olympic Trials.

In the sprints, the Jamaica trials should be a lot more exciting than the US trials especially if the top guys are on form.

Mens 100
Bolt
Blake
Asafa
Cater
Frater

Womens 100
Veronica
Fraser
Stewart
Sherone

I'll admit that the women put on a show at the trials in 2008, but the men were pathetic and the 100 final looked like a first round heat.

[Cam9412]

Has VCB made any statements to whether or not she was running the 100m?

[Speedster]

Has VCB made any statements to whether or not she was running the 100m?

Nothing confirmed as yet but I see no reason why not, she's talked at length in the past about running both as she's got the talent to. Her chances at a 200m threepeat at improved if she just does the 200m, but the 100m Gold is missing from her collection and she's likely to get a spot in both events given the depth behind her.

[fasttrack85]

Assuming everyone is required to compete in the Trials (no pre-selection) and everyone is healthy and runs, that 100m final is going to be extraordinarily exciting, possibly more so than the Olympic final, and possibly more so than any event at the US Trials (although I'm not about to skip Eugene to go to Jamaica).

There is no “pre-selection” at the Jamaica Olympic Trials.

In the sprints, the Jamaica trials should be a lot more exciting than the US trials especially if the top guys are on form.

Mens 100
Bolt
Blake
Asafa
Cater
Frater

Womens 100
Veronica
Fraser
Stewart
Sherone

I'll admit that the women put on a show at the trials in 2008, but the men were pathetic and the 100 final looked like a first round heat.

Why is everyone ruling out Ashmeade. I would put my money on him over Frater and Carter as it stands right now.

The show down on the womens side will be between Veronica and Shelly in the 100. I dont even think Veronica has any 200 competition this time around. I am so dissapointed with Sherone and Kerron this year.

[Jasontonice]

Ashmeade is not running the 100m he is focusing only in the 200.

[jamaica50]

Has VCB made any statements to whether or not she was running the 100m?

Veronica is entered in both the 100/200. Lets assume she will run both unless we hear otherwise.

[JWiz]

Dexter Lee hasn't made any progress at all. Who is his coach?

[Jackaloupe]

Bolt will probably run considering he has never run with Blake and doesn't know what he could do in a race with him

Huh? What doesn't he know about his very own Training Partner? Bolt was amusing when Blake ran that stunning 200 m, saying "training tips are over" (my paraphrase). Surely, anyone occasionally tests their Training Partner, however discretely. And why would Blake hold back anything (as your Post implies) in his quest to equal or best his TP?

[toyracer]

The JAAA should be ashamed of what is happening at its ticket office. People that were in line before it opened were told that season tickets (a ticket for all four days) were sold out by the time they got to the window...and I'm talking about a line that had less than twenty people in it. Similarly, when people further back in the line (50 - 100) reached to the window they were told that the Grandstand was all sold out. Then in the middle of all of that, a man drives up, walks past the line around to the back of the booth and exits a few minutes later clutching forty-five tickets in his hand. Forty-five. A call to the JAAA head office to complain received the cryptic explanation that some tickets were "pre-booked". Note that tickets were not officially on sale until this morning at 9:00am. The young lady when questioned about the "pre-booked" tickets quickly muttered an excuse and hung up the phone, perhaps realizing that she had let something slip she really shouldn't have mentioned.

Not good JAAA, not good at all.