¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

[ATK]

DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions

Almost ultimate performance? Should he have run sub 4 in the 15?

[Grasshopper]

Didn't see Beamon's 8.90, but thought it the ultimate athletic performance (UAP).

DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.

Didn't see Bolt's WRs and thought they were the UAPs

DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions.

Who sprints 10.21, LJs 27', PVs 5.30 and THEN runs the equivalent of a 4:34 Mile?!

He is now the world's greatest athlete amd that was his greatest performance, so the rest of the posers can just go home now!!!!!

The difference being that Beamon, MJ, and Bolt all obliterated the WR's whereas Eaton must barely topped it, which is only to say that this highlights how underrated Sebrle's WR and greatness was. All praises for Eaton's awesomeness today, but as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

[Marlow]

as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?

[Grasshopper]

as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?

No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.

[Marlow]

as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?

No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.

I'll take the better conditions, but you do have a good point. Best line from the announcer (Dr. Z?). "This should cancel the Czech"

[Al in NYC]

Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.

That's what I heard and hope, too (see my post a little way above), but GH seems to think Clay's been misinformed and it's misguided hope. I just don't see the benefit to ANYONE from leaving a spot open on the team if/when someone potentially could fill it.

From USATF site (underline mine):
"USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "

Edit:
It's in Section 2, a, under the heading "Track & Field" on page 8 of this USOC document that spells out USATF's selection procedure for the 2012 Olympics:
http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/Olympi ... nature.pdf

[j-a-m]

DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.

Still have that as #1. MJ elevated the WR to another level, and he did so at the Olympics and after winning the 400. Ashton is close, though; outstanding performance today.

[Grasshopper]

From USATF site (underline mine):
"USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "

Edit:
It's in Section 2, a, under the heading "Track & Field" on page 8 of this USOC document that spells out USATF's selection procedure for the 2012 Olympics:
http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/Olympi ... nature.pdf

I'm well aware of the stated policy, but this is USATF we're talking about. It's not like they've never made exceptions before. It also still doesn't answer the question regarding the benefit of leaving an Olympic Team spot empty.

[croflash]

It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...

[Al in NYC]

It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... ecord.html

[croflash]

It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... ecord.html

NBC's content is territory restricted

Of course there are ways to circumvent that, but I have got no interest in doing it.

[TrackCEO]

In my story on Clay's conflicted feelings (about whether to quit after the hurdles), he said his coaches were investigating whether he could try another dec:
http://glendora.patch.com/articles/brya ... al-by-fire

Also see my videos of Bryan in the press tent.

K E N

[Atanvarno]

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track-and-field/ashton-eaton-sets-decathlon-world-record.html

NBC is only allowed to show Olympic competition video on the internet to users in the United States and U.S. Territories.

[TrackCEO]

Here's NBC video of Bryan Clay's hurdle race at the Trials:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... mpics.html

K E N

[gibson]

Gotzis - site of the Roman Šebrle world record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0iNamrYAVA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tzis

a "small" meet in a very small town in sebrle's back yard.

no doubt eaton gains point from the hayward majic.
in the OG good weather will provide as many points as the hayward majic does.

[DentyCracker]

I have been out of the loop so I just read thru the thread
FANFUCKINGTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now do it again whenI'll get to see it Ashton. WR in London mi seh!!!

[DecFan]

I abandoned the message board to watch on TV without a computer in front of me . . . .

Thanks to all for your contributions. There are many unique contributors to this thread - I appreciate every one of you.

London, here we come on Aug 8 and 9!

Aren't you going to join us for the Heptathlon in the OT? I know there is no Eaton there (and you chose the nickname DecFan and not HepFan) but who else beside you will care about the chances of the athlete in fifth place to set a new PB.

My participation will be on a lower level next weekend . . . but in London, the heptathlon may be even more exciting than the decathlon. I'll be here.

[dvorakfan]

It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... ecord.html

NBC's content is territory restricted

Of course there are ways to circumvent that, but I have got no interest in doing it.

If anybody found videos (like it does exists for Sebrle's 9026) - please let us know

[scottmitchell74]

The dude is easily the best athlete on Earth right now. What blows me away is that he has the longest Long Jump in Eugene so far this Trials. I can't fathom that kind of overall athleticism.

[bambam]

How close can Eaton get to the "all scoring tables" WR of 9206, C.K. Yang, 1963 ?

If you're going to do all scoring tables, it should be Yang's actual mark of 9121 in 1963, not his converted one of 9206, which makes it a bit easier for Eaton.

[bambam]

Great thread by the way, guys. Fun reading it although I have terrible access to internet up here in New Hampshire this week

[mcgato]

The decathlon got a mention on the front page of the NY Times sports section, as well as a long article on the inside. The mention is "Champion Falters: Bryan Clay, the defending gold medalist in the decathlon, failed to qualify for London" Then the article talks about how the decathlon is unpredictable, and the expected US sweep in London fell apart just as the big Dan or Dave campaign of 1992 fell apart. Then around paragraph 25, it casually mentions that Eaton won in a new world record. The article was obviously written after the discus, and the writer was too lazy to change it. And judging from the article, the only event yesterday was the decathlon. No gushing about Lolo making a comeback to get on the team, which should make some people here a little happier.

I knew that the NY Times has a pretty sucky sports section, but this really reconfirmed that belief. Oh, they did put Eaton's WR marks in the agate, but spelled his first name "Ahston." I'm guessing the the Times had some big company picnic yesterday and the people in charge were drunk late in the day.

Here's a link for those interested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/sport ... ref=sports

[jazzcyclist]

How close can Eaton get to the "all scoring tables" WR of 9206, C.K. Yang, 1963 ?

If you're going to do all scoring tables, it should be Yang's actual mark of 9121 in 1963, not his converted one of 9206, which makes it a bit easier for Eaton.

Forgive me for my ignorance but what do you mean by "all scoring tables"?

[unclezadok]

The scoring tables were changed after C.K. Yang's WR of 9121 in the early 60s, making his mark something around 8000. I believe the 9121 is the highest number of points scored under any table that has been used. I don't know what his "converted mark" of 9206 means. His record under the current tables would still be around 8000.

[dbirds]

No disrespect - but I think the all scoring record conversation is dumb. Who cares about some old
Scoring system. I do think we should recognize Sebrle for an amazing world record!

[jeremyp]

My guesstimate on Eaton's last lap is 62 seconds. Any official lap times for him. Last 300?

[jazzcyclist]

For comparison purposes, we should use the same scoring table IMO. Using different scoring tables seems as ridiculous to me as measuring one long jumper using meters and the other one using yards.

[Al in NYC]

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track-and-field/ashton-eaton-sets-decathlon-world-record.html

NBC is only allowed to show Olympic competition video on the internet to users in the United States and U.S. Territories.

Sorry, I thought that only applied to the Olympics themselves, not to a national trials meet that is obviously not shown, and has no rights sold, in other countries.

Anyway, I believe the only deca event that NBC covered "live" was the 1,500. And the video that they posted at the link above is just the 1,500 and has the middle lap cut out, I guess in order not to strain our poor little attention spans.

[jeremyp]

US TV has always shown us more of the Decathlon 1500 coverage than all of the preceding Decathlon events combined. Always has/always will. Track gets 70% of the attention Field 5% and the rest is on Hooman interest.

[TrackDaddy]

Nothing like home cooking and the feel of a familiar bed and toilet.

[unclezadok]

For comparison purposes, we should use the same scoring table IMO. Using different scoring tables seems as ridiculous to me as measuring one long jumper using meters and the other one using yards.

I think the posting about the "all tables" record was meant to be whimsical. There is whimsy in track and field.

[unclezadok]

Nothing like home cooking and the feel of a familiar bed and toilet.

And plenty of parkas and raincoats to keep warm and dry in...

[tm71]

I have already watched the deca 1500 five times including the live version online. That is a WR for any deca 1500 ! how fitting that the local hero would get a huge pr in the last event in the only middle distance event of the deca in the Mecca of the sport. Anyone still baffled at clay and his coaches. How can they be so mid informed ? If we, just mere fans, are aware of the qualifying rules, how can be professional coaches not be ?

[bruce3404]

My guesstimate on Eaton's last lap is 62 seconds. Any official lap times for him. Last 300?

62 flat according to this morning's Reg-Guard.

[mcgato]

A link to the splits is on the results page.
Eaton
300: 49.95
700: 2:00.38 (70.43)
1100: 3:12.23 (71.86)
1500: 4:14.48 (62.26)