NEW YORK DL-200w: Sanya RICHARDS-ROSS 22.09 (-0.3w) WL, PB

[jazzcyclist]

TD, I'm going to go out on the limb and guess that you're the only one on this board that puts so much stock into this "number-of-attempts" metric. If you're fast, you're fast, and a well-trained athlete shouldn't need a bunch of attempts to prove they're fast after they've reached physical maturity. Usain Bolt needed less than five attempts to run 9.72 and less than ten to run 9.69.

By the way, I'm still waiting for an answer to this question: Do you agree that when healthy, a woman of Sanya's ability who has run 48.7 and can run sub-11 on a whim, should be able to beat the likes of Susanthika Jayasinghe in a 200 if she has two months to prepare?

[optimistic]

Not sure about Sanya being on the 4x1.

I would say she deserves consideration, but not sure it will be the best decision for her and her 400m preparation. If I remember right, they have two relay camps and have to commit to running in 2 meets. I am not sure how such a committment would affect a 400m runner trying to prepare for the biggest 400m of her life. Clearly for the 100m/200m runners, it's the speedwork they need.

Not saying it would hinder her preparation, just wondering if it could.

[Alan Shank]

As I've stated for years....there's NO ONE in track and field like SRR. Who's capable of running sub 49, sub 11 and sub 22 but Sanya Richards-Ross?

Since Perec or Torrence....who's come close but her?

NO ONE I can think of but Sanya.

I believe Felix is capable of doing that, as well; however, some of her statements indicate that she is not fond of the 400, so she may not run enough of those to get under 49.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

[guru]

I was saying that the four ladies that I listed (Madison, Felix, Duncan, Jeter) are superior to Sanya on the 4x100.
At this point, Bianca should be behind Sanya in line for the relay.

Not happening, unless Knight doesnt make a final at the Trials IMO. Even if she run 23.5, I believe Drummond sticks with her. When I asked why a woman running 11.3 is valued over one like Duncan or Gardner he went into the value of chemistry, big-meet experience(huh?), etc, etc.

Now, how Knight's relay experience(one non-popoff stick race since '08) trumps collegians who've been doing it week in and week out right up to the present(and who are significantly faster in the open race) I guess is beyond my pay grade

[ATK]

I was saying that the four ladies that I listed (Madison, Felix, Duncan, Jeter) are superior to Sanya on the 4x100.
At this point, Bianca should be behind Sanya in line for the relay.

Not happening, unless Knight doesnt make a final at the Trials IMO. Even if she run 23.5, I believe Drummond sticks with her. When I asked why a woman running 11.3 is valued over one like Duncan or Gardner he went into the value of chemistry, big-meet experience(huh?), etc, etc.

Now, how Knight's relay experience(one non-popoff stick race since '08) trumps collegians who've been doing it week in and week out right up to the present(and who are significantly faster in the open race) I guess is beyond my pay grade

I guess I'm in the same boat as you. They are losing out on potentialy a much faster team not only in raw speed, but baton experience.

[reggaeirie1234]

I would love to see a video

[TrackDaddy]

TD, I'm going to go out on the limb and guess that you're the only one on this board that puts so much stock into this "number-of-attempts" metric. If you're fast, you're fast, and a well-trained athlete shouldn't need a bunch of attempts to prove they're fast after they've reached physical maturity. Usain Bolt needed less than five attempts to run 9.72 and less than ten to run 9.69.

By the way, I'm still waiting for an answer to this question: Do you agree that when healthy, a woman of Sanya's ability who has run 48.7 and can run sub-11 on a whim, should be able to beat the likes of Susanthika Jayasinghe in a 200 if she has two months to prepare?

That's fine, speak for the entire board if you like. But I KNOW the ease with which someone accomplishes something speaks to their potential. And Sanya ran sub 11 and low 22 with relative ease (few attempts).

For many others it takes years and a lot of attempts to accomplish the same thing.

To answer your second part, yes, sans Bechet or any other kind of immuno-system compromising disease.

[liuxuan]

sorry but i still think that 10.92/21.81/48.0 relay split (49.59 from the blocks) beats 10.97/22.09/48.70

allyson >> sanya @ 100m
allyson >>>>>>>>>sanya @ 200m
sanya >>>>allyson @ 400m

[TrackDaddy]

As I've stated for years....there's NO ONE in track and field like SRR. Who's capable of running sub 49, sub 11 and sub 22 but Sanya Richards-Ross?

Since Perec or Torrence....who's come close but her?

NO ONE I can think of but Sanya.

I believe Felix is capable of doing that, as well; however, some of her statements indicate that she is not fond of the 400, so she may not run enough of those to get under 49.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

I'm not sure anyone "likes" running the 400 over say the 100. So thats true of everyone and illegitimate as an excuse. Felix TRAINS like a 400 runner which is what you get from Kersee. Add to that she's clearly dedicated quite a bit of her career to it, not to mention many years of being one of the US's biggest 4x4 weapons. But if you look at 2010 when she was ranked #1 in the 400, she never ran below 50, much less 49.

And if you use jazz's argument at the top of this thread number of attempts has nothing to do with it anyway. If you have the talent, you have the talent.

ONLY Sanya Richards-Ross has even been close to displaying this type of talent over this wide of a range in the open events.

[TrackDaddy]

sorry but i still think that 10.92/21.81/48.0 relay split (49.59 from the blocks) beats 10.97/22.09/48.70

allyson >> sanya @ 100m
allyson >>>>>>>>>sanya @ 200m
sanya >>>>allyson @ 400m

Don't apologize to us.

You should look into a mirror and apologize for mentioning a relay split in the same breath versus an open time.

[TrackDaddy]

sorry but i still think that 10.92/21.81/48.0 relay split (49.59 from the blocks) beats 10.97/22.09/48.70

allyson >> sanya @ 100m
allyson >>>>>>>>>sanya @ 200m
sanya >>>>allyson @ 400m

Don't apologize to us.

You should look into a mirror and apologize for mentioning a relay split in the same breath versus an open time.

Especially a 2nd leg relay split where the athlete didnt have to stay in their lane the entire lap
AND in the 4 years since the split the athlete hasn't come within 1.5 seconds of duplicating in the open event.

Just stop it with the 4 year old, 2nd leg (the shortest) 48 flat means you can run it in the open event nonsense please.

[TrackDaddy]

Not sure about Sanya being on the 4x1.

I would say she deserves consideration, but not sure it will be the best decision for her and her 400m preparation. If I remember right, they have two relay camps and have to commit to running in 2 meets. I am not sure how such a committment would affect a 400m runner trying to prepare for the biggest 400m of her life. Clearly for the 100m/200m runners, it's the speedwork they need.

Not saying it would hinder her preparation, just wondering if it could.

Where's your optimism, optimistic?

[guru]

Richards-Ross has officially entered the Trials 200(declaration deadline not until June 25)

[jazzcyclist]

Richards-Ross has officially entered the Trials 200(declaration deadline not until June 25)

That's what I'm talking about. The more the merrier. I'm glad I chose the second weekend instead of the first. I believe that Felix is about to face her toughest challenge to make the team since she turned pro.

[26mi235]

By the way, Spencer's win was the first by a frosh since Sanya.