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¶NCAA m400—Tony McQuay (Florida) 44.58 (CL)

Postby gh » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:48 pm

1. Tony McQuay Florida Jr
2. Michael Berry Oregon So
3. Gil Roberts Texas Tech Sr
4. David Verburg George Mason Jr
5. Bryshon Nellum USC Jr
6. Deon Lendore’ Texas A&M Fr
7. Brady Gehret Penn State So
8. Akheem Gauntlett Arkansas Jr
9. Josh Mance USC So
10. Errol Nolan Houston Jr
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby enpsalmx » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:11 pm

There will be 44+ up and down the board in the final. Berry has been trained to be in prime shape for this and the trials. Didn't run a great deal in the winter. Look out!
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby ATK » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:37 pm

enpsalmx wrote:There will be 44+ up and down the board in the final. Berry has been trained to be in prime shape for this and the trials. Didn't run a great deal in the winter. Look out!

Hopefully there will be many in the 44 to 45 low range.
But Berry ran the same amount of indoor races as last year.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby j-a-m » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:32 pm

Berry, Nellum, Lendore running in the same heat in the semis, that should be interesting.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby Marlow » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:51 am

Torrin Lawrence gets no love?
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby richxx87 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:52 pm

Heat 3 (aka Heat of Death)...
Lane
3----Joey Hughes SR USC
4----Torrin Lawrence SR Georgia
5----Gil Roberts SR Texas Tech
6----Tony McQuay JR Florida
7----Josh Mance SO USC
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby richxx87 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:54 pm

Nellum is out... and his college career comes to a quiet close.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby ATK » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:54 pm

Nellums finishing 5th in his heat with 45.45 does not make the final.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby ATK » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:59 pm

McQuay 44.67!!!
Josh Mance 44.83!!
Roberts 44.84!!
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby richxx87 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:00 pm

Holy Gawd... McQuay runs a 44.67 in Heat 3
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby richxx87 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:02 pm

Huge PR for the young Californian, Josh Mance. Previous PR was, I believe 45.29 and his fastest this year was only 45.65.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:03 pm

richxx87 wrote:Holy Gawd... McQuay runs a 44.67 in Heat 3


45.28 doesn't make finals. Yikes. Heat 3 alone was easily the rival of the 400m at Pre. Those are some quick, quick times.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby t_monk » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 pm

OMG.... It is so on now.... :shock:
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:06 pm

LSU qualifies 0 out of 4, USC gets only one. No Baylor Bear even close to the final.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:08 pm

richxx87 wrote:Nellum is out... and his college career comes to a quiet close.


Surely he's got a leg in the relay, no?
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby ATK » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:11 pm

nbonaddio wrote:
richxx87 wrote:Nellum is out... and his college career comes to a quiet close.


Surely he's got a leg in the relay, no?

Yup, a relay team which I would imagine could challenge for the win.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby richxx87 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:12 pm

nbonaddio wrote:
richxx87 wrote:Nellum is out... and his college career comes to a quiet close.


Surely he's got a leg in the relay, no?


Yes, for sure he'll be on the relay. I should've clarified that his individual NCAA 400m career is done. So many woulda-shouldas with him. Such rare, sublime talent before the shooting.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:18 pm

ATK wrote:
nbonaddio wrote:
richxx87 wrote:Nellum is out... and his college career comes to a quiet close.


Surely he's got a leg in the relay, no?

Yup, a relay team which I would imagine could challenge for the win.


I thought maybe rich was privy to information that I wasn't, perhaps a newly-discovered year of eligibility for Quincy Watts!
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby Dave » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:19 pm

nbonaddio wrote:
richxx87 wrote:Holy Gawd... McQuay runs a 44.67 in Heat 3


45.28 doesn't make finals. Yikes. Heat 3 alone was easily the rival of the 400m at Pre. Those are some quick, quick times.


That makes two men's sprint races where an "A" standard doesn't get you into the final.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby Jacksf » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:30 pm

Mike Berry of Oregon may have the advantage in the final.
All the finalists have a leg to run in the 4x400 relay tomorrow, except Berry.
Oregon does not have a team in the race.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:32 pm

NCAA Semis better than Euro Championship Final?
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby gktrack » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:22 pm

26mi235 wrote:NCAA Semis better than Euro Championship Final?

Interesting matchup, as Borlee brothers (44.71 & 44.74 PR's) not serious about this year's Euros, leaving only Rooney (44.60 PR in '08, 44.92 in '12) as the only sub-45 Euro out there in the past 2 years... so, I'd have to give the edge to the NCAA semis w/o Borlee(s).
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/05062012/58/london-2012-borlee-forgoes-european-defence.html

Great NCAA semis though... (prior PR in parentheses):
Tony McQuay 44.67-PR Q (44.68)
Josh Mance 44.83-PR Q (45.29)
Gil Roberts 44.84-PR q (44.86)
Mike Berry 45.05 Q (44.86)
Akheem Gauntlett 45.13-PR Q (45.57)
David Verburg 45.17 Q (45.06)
Deon Lendore 45.19 q (45.13)
Brady Gehret 45.29 Q (45.22)

Of the 8 qualifiers during their NCAA semi races, 4 set new PR's and the other 4 had to run within a 1/10 of a second of their respective PR's. Should be a great NCAA final.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby Bob Bettwy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:16 pm

I beleive, for the second straight year, that Errol Nolan (Houston) ran the fastest non-Q ever and did not make the final. Talk about tough luck.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby starboyunlimited » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:45 am

ATK wrote:McQuay 44.67!!!
Josh Mance 44.83!!
Roberts 44.84!!

here is the race
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByVfrqr03Qk
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby gh » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:27 pm

left on the chart:

1. Tony McQuay Florida Jr
2. Michael Berry Oregon So
3. Gil Roberts Texas Tech Sr
4. David Verburg George Mason Jr
6. Deon Lendore’ Texas A&M Fr
7. Brady Gehret Penn State So
8. Akheem Gauntlett Arkansas Jr
9. Josh Mance USC So
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby gh » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:31 pm

ATK wrote:McQuay 44.67!!!
Josh Mance 44.83!!
Roberts 44.84!!


for historical reference: fastest semi ever is 44.27 by Darold Williamson in '05; fastest heat (first of 3 rounds in the meet) 44.43 by Butch Reynolds
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby gh » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:39 am

lanes


1 1086 Deon Lendore FR Texas A&M
2 1110 Gil Roberts SR Texas Tech
3 629 Akheem Gauntlett JR Arkansas
4 736 David Verburg JR George Mason
5 713 Tony McQuay JR Florida
6 974 Mike Berry SO Oregon
7 1141 Josh Mance SO USC
8 992 Brady Gehret SO Penn State


based on the 4x4 last night, if Gehret can throw some caution to the wind on the outside, he could do some real damage (no, that doesn't mean I think he can beat McQ or Berry)
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby user4 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:30 am

I would say that the edge is off and he will be diminished. I dont think a sophomore can run a 44.2 leg and come back 24 hours later and run a 44.5 open.
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:25 am

user4 wrote:I would say that the edge is off and he will be diminished. I dont think a sophomore can run a 44.2 leg and come back 24 hours later and run a 44.5 open.


Well, James is a sophomore, or would be if he had stayed in school competition. But, when your exception is at that level, it makes the point.
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby ATK » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:01 am

I agree with Jacksf that the 4 guys who did not run the 4x4 may have the advantage.
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Re: NCAA m400—two World Champs teammates

Postby 79. » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:55 am

Marlow wrote:Torrin Lawrence gets no love?


He was among my "dark horses" this Olympic year...
His 44"07 leg in the 1600m relay yesterday prooves his talent isn't dead.
I wish this young talent to recover his fantastic shape at the indoors 2 years ago.
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby gh » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:41 am

Lawrence 44.04, actually.

Proving (well, indicating) once again that the 400 would be a far better race if they did it as a one-turn stagger (like the 800) and then broke for the pole. Too many good marks are wasted because of the inability to run to max when stuck with not enough people around you. Let everybody race to the rail and watch the times drop. (Yes, you'd also watch a lot of people drop, but hey, that's how short-track speed skating became an Olympic favorite; we could do a lot worse)
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby Marlow » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:47 pm

gh wrote:Proving once again that the 400 would be a far better race if they did it as a one-turn stagger (like the 800) and then broke for the pole

Gotta agree. That would also make it obvious to the hoi polloi who was winning. As it is now, we have to wait till the last 1/4 of the race to know.
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby Half Miler » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:59 pm

McQuay 44.58!

Yee-haw!

Roberts went out like a madman!
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Re: NCAA m400—44.67 CL for McQuay in semi

Postby ATK » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:01 pm

Berry also PR's with 44.77.
Roberts made up the stagger in like 150m!
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