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Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby jazzcyclist » Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 pm

BOOM!

I know it's been mentioned in the SEC thread, but I think she's to the point now that she deserves her own thread. Keep in mind that based on Dennis Shaver's history with athletes of Duncan's caliber, she won't hit peak form until she gets to the Olympic Trials, so she still has more cards to play. Her running style reminds me so much of Wilma Rudolph. I know my opinion is biased, but I think all track fans should wish her good health in the future and see what happens.
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Re: Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby guru » Sun May 13, 2012 7:12 pm

While not dismissing the wind, I agree totally with what you're saying. If she can put up a 10.8 at either NCAA's(unlikely), or in finishing top 3 at the Trials, then when combined with her extensive stick work and 4x1 racing over the last several years I think we've solved that US 3rd leg dilemma.

It'll be interesting to see where things sit a month and a half from now.
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Re: Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby TrackDaddy » Sun May 13, 2012 7:15 pm

Duncan is quite talented, but I don't understand people saying her and Madison are locks for the US 100m team.

Just don't get it.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sun May 13, 2012 7:19 pm

Well guru, also a good observer, amended his comments about the drop off in the 200 after the first few (due to Duncan and Madison).

Last year the post season was a bit of an extension for her; you are asserting that this will not be the case this year (seems likely to me that last year adjusted their expectations, and post-season with the WCs is not like post season with the OGs, of course).

This, of course, adds to the sub-11 thread.

"Duncan is quite talented, but I don't understand people saying her and Madison are locks for the US 100m team.

Just don't get it."

Who said that, although, for the 4x100, the odds are VERY good. The USA might leave off more sub-11s than Jamaica!
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun May 13, 2012 7:27 pm

I'm not sure if anyone actually "said" they were locks, 26. It's just the impression I get from reading several threads. I would love to have both on the US team so I have nothing against them.

But putting Madison on the team because she beat some folk in the 60 reminds me of Ashley Owens turning pro for the same reason. I'm not saying Madison is a very short sprinter like Owens, I'm just saying you can't translate a fast 60 and an 11 flat into an Olympic uniform.
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Postby gktrack » Sun May 13, 2012 7:34 pm

A great double by Duncan, no doubt. But Madison had a great double this past weekend as well:
11.01 (-0.7) and 22.37 (0.3) in Ponce. Should be an incredible Oly Trials.
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Re: Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby guru » Sun May 13, 2012 7:37 pm

TrackDaddy wrote: I'm not saying Madison is a very short sprinter like Owens, I'm just saying you can't translate a fast 60 and an 11 flat into an Olympic uniform.



11.01 with a fat headwind, as a season opener, will do for a start. Then the 22.3 200 as a kicker after a day of multiple long jumps, and that 100, well...
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Re: Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby t_monk » Sun May 13, 2012 7:38 pm

I think Duncan reminds me of Dawn Sewell... I do think she can run herself on the US team in the 100m, the 200m is going to be a challenge but it is possible as well. I do think she should peak just around the Olympic trials, but will probably fade thereafter a la Tarmoh...

That being said though, I wish her the very best!
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun May 13, 2012 7:44 pm

Yes guru, very impressive no doubt.

But there are people lurking who have plans of their own. They're barely on the radar right now but some have experience and impressive resumes.

Didn't Lauryn run 11.1x a month ago? Where's Alex Anderson and Shalonda Solomon?

I'm just saying...watch out.
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Postby t_monk » Sun May 13, 2012 7:48 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:Yes guru, very impressive no doubt.

But there are people lurking who have plans of their own. They're barely on the radar right now but some have experience and impressive resumes.

Didn't Lauryn run 11.1x a month ago? Where's Alex Anderson and Shalonda Solomon?

I'm just saying...watch out.

They ran in the same meet as Madison in the Ponce Grand Prix.

Finals
1 Tianna Madison United States 11.01 -0.7 2
2 Muriel Ahoure United States 11.17 -0.7 2
3 Laverne Jones-Ferrette ISV 11.24 -0.9 1
4 Bianca Knight United States 11.25 -0.9 1
5 Gloria Asumnu Nigeria 11.27 -0.9 1
6 Shalonda Solomon United States 11.32 -0.7 2
7 Alexandria Anderson United States 11.43 -0.7 2

8 Barbara Pierre United States 11.51 -0.7 2
9 Marieli Sanchez Dominican Republic 11.61 -0.9 1
10 Yomara Hinestrosa Colombia 11.69 -0.9 1
11 Taheshia Harrigan British Virgin I 11.71 -0.9 1
12 Chandra Sturrup Bahamas 11.87 -0.7 2
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun May 13, 2012 7:52 pm

As for Solomon I was referring more to the deuce, but thank you.

What about Moore?

A month from now things could be very different.
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Postby t_monk » Sun May 13, 2012 8:02 pm

TrackDaddy wrote:As for Solomon I was referring more to the deuce, but thank you.

What about Moore?

A month from now things could be very different.


Solomon came 3rd behind BK and SAFP in the 200m in JA. She ran 22.86 I think (22.8something I'm sure).

Moore has a SB of 11.11 in the 100m from a meet in Brazil I believe.

I concur though a month from now things can be very different. As for me I'm always concerned with athletes are running too fast too soon. I am seeing a lot of that lately and especially those who ran Indoors. It'll be interesting to see how long they all can 'hold on'. They probably will make the US team... but after that? :?:
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Postby nianchengyu » Sun May 13, 2012 8:18 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:BOOM!

I know it's been mentioned in the SEC thread, but I think she's to the point now that she deserves her own thread. Keep in mind that based on Dennis Shaver's history with athletes of Duncan's caliber, she won't hit peak form until she gets to the Olympic Trials, so she still has more cards to play. Her running style reminds me so much of Wilma Rudolph. I know my opinion is biased, but I think all track fans should wish her good health in the future and see what happens.

where did she run the race?
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Re: Kimberlyn Duncan: 100 - 10.96+1.9, 200 - 22.12+2.6

Postby jazzcyclist » Sun May 13, 2012 8:38 pm

nianchengyu wrote:where did she run the race?

SEC Championships in Baton Rouge.
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Postby jazzcyclist » Sun May 13, 2012 9:30 pm

Duncan now holds four of the top ten spots on the NCAA women's all-conditions 200 list and she's the only woman that appears on the list more than once. Her new 100 PR is the second fastest time low-altitude, wind-legal time in NCAA history behind only LSU's great Dawn Sowell's 10.93.
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Postby preston » Mon May 14, 2012 6:43 am

This is one of the least surprising results of the weekend! I am excited that there is a new entrant to the sub-11 club but its muted because Duncan is an incredible talent! I was more surprised by the 11.01 run at Big-12's! :shock: Also, Dawn Sowell's Provo time needs to stand on it's own; the "A" doesn't give it justice. It's not like Flojo's 10.49 where all the women in that heat ran PB's.
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Postby vip » Mon May 14, 2012 7:24 am

Given that I'm too young to know, can someone with authority talk about Dawn Sowell? Was she solid throughout her career at LSU or just her last few years? Did she even have a professional career after LSU? And if not, why not? What is she doing now?

Also, given that her NCAA record was done in Provo, isn't that an above altitude mark? How much of an advantage, if any, did her performance have over the best mark at altitude? And what is that mark, anyway?
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Postby TrackDaddy » Mon May 14, 2012 8:02 am

t_monk wrote:
TrackDaddy wrote:As for Solomon I was referring more to the deuce, but thank you.

What about Moore?

A month from now things could be very different.


Solomon came 3rd behind BK and SAFP in the 200m in JA. She ran 22.86 I think (22.8something I'm sure).

Moore has a SB of 11.11 in the 100m from a meet in Brazil I believe.

I concur though a month from now things can be very different. As for me I'm always concerned with athletes are running too fast too soon. I am seeing a lot of that lately and especially those who ran Indoors. It'll be interesting to see how long they all can 'hold on'. They probably will make the US team... but after that? :?:


Yes, I agree. Along with the long season dynamic, inexperience can also be a factor at the trials.
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Postby Flumpy » Mon May 14, 2012 12:27 pm

t_monk wrote:I think Duncan reminds me of Dawn Sewell... !


Ha!!! That doesn't bode well.
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Postby true northener » Mon May 14, 2012 1:25 pm

Jazzcyclist - I have never seen Duncan run but I am very much looking forward to it now cause I remember Wilma Rudolph in 1960 when she was the class of the field in Rome - she was so smooth! Both in the 100 & the 200! And WR was a great personal interest story as I recall - she overcame Polio as a child I believe.
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