Smoke wrote:Props to the "twins" for creating a thread LOL
There's no part of this thread that is remotely realistic, select stats to prop an event that the most staunch fan could name 3 participants, one because she had one hot year and disappeared, the other because we are not sure she is a woman and seemingly jogs races to avoid attention, and the third depending upon what country you are from LOLOLOL. Oh sorry and a fourth, the perennial Russian phenom. That is all for the women's 800, yearly!
The 100 is the build up, the violence of it and the preening of the alpha males. ALL humans understand this without need of mutual language.
Exactly - the 100 m is about foreplay. Then the race is the consummation.
I think Mal is correct. While some may prefer a 9.58 quickie, I think most prefer the prologned buildup of enjoyment for 26:17.53 especially if there is an explosive burst for last 51 seconds or so.
Sprinters are usually guys who can play some football/soccer/basketball/long jump/do other things. They aren't as limited as tiny little distance runners who could only run ...forever. The stories surrounding sprinters...interesting.
I am calling you all out, liars! LOL Cut it out. The 5000 nor the 10,000 is turning channels, nor selling out the arena. The w800 isn't moving the needle at all! Truth is, Jelimo went fairly unknown during her reign. Folks do not know Jearl Miles for her 800 prowess but for her 400 WC. Only the staunchest of us recall Ana Q!!!! Love em or love to hate em, you are watching the preening, the clowns, the silent assassins, and the less than 10 seconds of pure drama. Usain is the fastest but you hold your breath to see if he will win. 2009 was the most dramatic 100 of the previous decade, Asafa, Bolt and Gay, and you did not know who would win, and you watched to see if Bolt was that alien. No matter what yall say, not one single event in track is as intriguing. I am a hurdle coach and I know the 110H is the most competitive race in track in the US, we are still not as intriguing as that mens 100! It is the purity of the competition. One lane, one man, one race to see who is better. RIGHT NOW! No team tactics, no rabbits, no time to gather your thoughts and figure it out, you have to watch and not blink. It is the one punch KO, the 99 yard TD, the walk off home run all rolled into a 10 second moment. it is 8 men putting ALL they have on the line and an absolute release of that energy in one explosive moment. nothing in track compares to it, and I like ALL track and field events.
runforlife wrote:Sometime I think I'm the only one watching a 10k heat that isn't a family, friend or coach of a runner. But in reality it's much more exciting than a 100m.
You obviously haven't been paying much attention. No championship event has had heats in the 10000 in the last dozen years.
I 'll say it.....sprinters just have more personality/more interesting ...than the distance guys. We see that swagger, those muscular physiques, that ...look.
While I'm on a role.....little African guys with 115 pound bodies and not too....ah...hmm...crowd friendly???
The 100m is the closest thing we have to a big heavyweight fight. The most exciting race in sports.
Usain Bolt has been on the cover of T&FN how many times......why is that? Yep...he sells!
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runforlife wrote:Sometime I think I'm the only one watching a 10k heat that isn't a family, friend or coach of a runner. But in reality it's much more exciting than a 100m.
You obviously haven't been paying much attention. No championship event has had heats in the 10000 in the last dozen years.
Incredibly, the World Military Games had them last year!
I don't see why they can't have heats, then they could lower the qualifying standards and more Europeans might actually want to run the event (and maybe get a PB in the heat!)
Avante wrote:I 'll say it.....sprinters just have more personality/more interesting ...than the distance guys. We see that swagger, those muscular physiques, that ...look.
While I'm on a role.....little African guys with 115 pound bodies and not too....ah...hmm...crowd friendly???
The 100m is the closest thing we have to a big heavyweight fight. The most exciting race in sports.
Usain Bolt has been on the cover of T&FN how many times......why is that? Yep...he sells!
Well, do jerks have more 'personality'? Some sprinters have great personality, but Bolt and Carl were not cut from the same cloth.
Dropped the me from Some. Some sprinters are jerks and do not particularly make the sprints more interesting.
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Avante wrote:I 'll say it.....sprinters just have more personality/more interesting ...than the distance guys. We see that swagger, those muscular physiques, that ...look.
While I'm on a role.....little African guys with 115 pound bodies and not too....ah...hmm...crowd friendly???
The 100m is the closest thing we have to a big heavyweight fight. The most exciting race in sports.
Usain Bolt has been on the cover of T&FN how many times......why is that? Yep...he sells!
Well, do jerks have more 'personality'? So sprinters have great personality, but Bolt and Carl were not cut from the same cloth.
Give me some strutting around, posing, smartazz, loud mouth sprinters every day of the week over what we see coming from the distance runners world. Bolt is a showman, Carl Lewis made it very clear....I love Carl Lewis. Anything beats nothing which is what I see when they line up for that around and around and around and around etc etc...they go.
26mi235 wrote:Well, do jerks have more 'personality'? So sprinters have great personality, but Bolt and Carl were not cut from the same cloth.
And the distance guys aren't jerks? Which world do you live in? The distance guys have just established the narrative that the sprinters are jerks and there are just too many distance folks to roll that nonsense back. Sprinters, vaulters, non-African distance guys...they can all be jerks!
Tamsyn Lewis (now Manou)'s tweet re Semenya after her coach Maria Mutola said she could run 1:51-1:52... "That makes a mockery of women's 800! No *true* female can run 1.51,1.52!! Ridiculous!!"
Kind of agree with Tamsyn Lewis. It seemed to me that Semenya, after "gender accusations" have lost most of the meet races on purpose. I hope I'm wrong.
pakillo wrote:Kind of agree with Tamsyn Lewis. It seemed to me that Semenya, after "gender accusations" have lost most of the meet races on purpose. I hope I'm wrong.
Whatever people's ridiculous conspiracy theories the word 'dirty' is not appropriate
I am sort of interested in the 100, but mainly as it kicks off the Decathlon. Watching Eaton, Hardee, and probably Clay duke it out will be phenomanal. I don't actually believe there will be a US sweep and am not really convinced Eaton will get the WR, but this will be the event for me.
After watching Eaton absolutely destroy the field in Instanbul, something less than a good hard look at the world record will surprise me.
pakillo wrote:Kind of agree with Tamsyn Lewis. It seemed to me that Semenya, after "gender accusations" have lost most of the meet races on purpose. I hope I'm wrong.
Whatever people's ridiculous conspiracy theories the word 'dirty' is not appropriate
If you are not genetically female, and you compete as a woman.. That's dirty.
pakillo wrote:Kind of agree with Tamsyn Lewis. It seemed to me that Semenya, after "gender accusations" have lost most of the meet races on purpose. I hope I'm wrong.
Whatever people's ridiculous conspiracy theories the word 'dirty' is not appropriate
I would have thought that most normal track and field fans when they watch any athletes participating in their events would be enjoying high ability and the results, but in this celebrity obsessed world inhabited by many, it appears that unnecessary posturing and so called performing arts are a necessary adjunct of their quality. Sad bollocks!
When I watch Bolt his antics dont bother me in any way, but if he disappeared up his bum for a split second before every race that would leave me fairly indifferent cos I know I am watching an outstanding sprinter who has re written the records books; the statement that sprinters have more outgoing personalities or whatever than other exponents of track and field seems a useless ,irrelevant load of garbage. What about peoples private temperament and personality,; doesn't that count.
If I want performing animals I can go to the circus( oops , not any more ;its about to be banned).
Dave wrote:I am sort of interested in the 100, but mainly as it kicks off the Decathlon. Watching Eaton, Hardee, and probably Clay duke it out will be phenomanal. I don't actually believe there will be a US sweep and am not really convinced Eaton will get the WR, but this will be the event for me.
After watching Eaton absolutely destroy the field in Instanbul, something less than a good hard look at the world record will surprise me.
i haven't looked at the scoring but won't he have to improve his throws before the WR is on the cards ??
pakillo wrote:Kind of agree with Tamsyn Lewis. It seemed to me that Semenya, after "gender accusations" have lost most of the meet races on purpose. I hope I'm wrong.
Whatever people's ridiculous conspiracy theories the word 'dirty' is not appropriate
If you are not genetically female, and you compete as a woman.. That's dirty.
I'm not having this argument again it's ben done to death, i understand that people have different views and that is fine but the language that they use to express those views is often offensive and completely inappropriate
I fully agree - really excited by the W800 now that Jelimo is back. Just like the 110mH, 3 or 4 athletes with a claim to being the pre-eminent athlete of their generation in their event may line up. The Hept probably falls into that category too. Those 3 events are shaping up to carry more historical significance in London than others.
mump boy wrote:Some people were predicting the demise of the 800 as Semenya took the WR to unbeatable territory conveniently forgetting that Jelimo had run significantly quicker just one year to go.
It's already there. Another reason why the W800 lacks cache'.
