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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby mal » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:12 pm

Marlow wrote:
mal wrote:You guys think too much. Christie ran 10.48 as a 24 year old. And I suspect he was pretty 'mature' / 'cut'. Then he got faster. :roll:
I'm happy to lay back and watch how he develops or doesn't.

You're talking about a completely different kind of individual.



Enlighten me?

He developed dramatically after the age of 24.

Surprised?

And to be pedantic, completely different is a part of being an individual. :-)
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm

I see that Bracy is entered in the 100m at the Texas Relays. It will be interesting to see what the young man can do.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby JumboElliott » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:57 pm

Bracy ran a windy (2.1) 10.37 today in the prelims. Video isn't the best, but it looks like he eased up quite a bit at the end. That kid is an incredibly advanced starter for an 18 year old.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul5RBOixaTw
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:18 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Bracy ran a windy (2.1) 10.37 today in the prelims. Video isn't the best, but it looks like he eased up quite a bit at the end. That kid is an incredibly advanced starter for an 18 year old.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul5RBOixaTw


Looks like he will be able to improve on that in the final. It will help for him to have someone to run with him.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:30 pm

Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:49 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Giant Panda » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:35 pm

It's hard to have consecutive years of good health at any age. If everything comes together right at an early stage there's a component of luck involved in that too. When you add longevity of course some are going to hit a wall as that can happen any time and the more years you compete the less likely you're always number one. It might not be the waning prowess of precocious kids so much as others putting missteps behind them and taking their turn. If you peak at 17 and can't say the same at 25 I don't know that's any more unusual than breaking out at 22 and being done by 30. A lot can happen year on year and usually does. And of course you must factor in the senior ranks being ultimately more competitive because you have multiple cohorts of athletes eligible all the time. Youth and experience each has a chance, and you wouldn't expect the same guy to win every year even if you raced your peers in perpetuity.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Giant Panda » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:43 pm

Marlow wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.


He ran a pair of 10.0s with 2m/s in June and July last year so he's showing a very consistent baseline to be opening with the same in March. His legal best was in line with the best youth times ever run although technically he wasn't a youth by a couple of weeks. Historically speaking the junior record hasn't always been run by the eldest kids, though. Demps and Brown were both 18 when they ran their 10.01, although they each had another year of eligibility and Bracy does not. He's in a similar boat to Blake, who actually got injured in the equivalent year. I think the windy marks last year fall in the same range as Blake's 10.11. If Bracy is the real deal a 9.9 is to be expected, soon.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:02 pm

Marlow wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.


Between this and the 6.08, this kid is the real deal. I can see him making the final of the olympic trials.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby kellits2gnv » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:00 pm

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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby RQ » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:28 am

Bracy is entered in 100m at Florida Relays on Friday too. 3PM race start.

Along with cousin Levonte Whitfield(jr. Jones, Orlando) 10.39w this year. He reopened up recruiting process after verbally committing to Miami(10.31PB)
Kendall Williams(so, Stanton, Jacksonville) 10.39w
Anthony Brown(sr, Hillsborough) 10.50

Sad to see Dade County public schools will not be able to compete due to restrictions by the school board on travel during religious holiday. Artie Burns is running incredibly this year 13.35 and 36.06.

Live results will be posted here http://www.deltatiming.com/results.aspx
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby RQ » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:36 am

Just checked schedule.

Demps is entered in 100m(3:40PM) that follows Bracy's race. Should be an electrifying 40 minutes of racing!
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:33 am

RQ wrote:Just checked schedule.

Demps is entered in 100m(3:40PM) that follows Bracy's race. Should be an electrifying 40 minutes of racing!


Too bad that Bracy can't run in the later race with Demps.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby mal » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:56 am

Bracy had a poor-ish start, went straight up, and was up and down about 3 times in his 10.06.

All he needs is a good group to get a better feel for racing and running under more pressure and he will have a breakthrough. Not improvement. Breakthrough.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby rainy.here » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:17 am

I can see a wind legal 9.9 from Bracy if he gets a good race.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:22 am

mal wrote:Bracy had a poor-ish start, went straight up, and was up and down about 3 times in his 10.06.

And his head is down TOO much in the early acceleration phase. It should be in line with the torso.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby JumboElliott » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:47 pm

How about the fact that he doesn't lean when he crosses the line.. Does that make any difference?
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:55 pm

JumboElliott wrote:How about the fact that he doesn't lean when he crosses the line.. Does that make any difference?

JImmy Hines didn't in Mexico City and everyone (at the time) said that was the new best way to finish, because there's no slowing down for the lean!
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby BCBaroo » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:50 pm

Marlow wrote:
mal wrote:Bracy had a poor-ish start, went straight up, and was up and down about 3 times in his 10.06.

And his head is down TOO much in the early acceleration phase. It should be in line with the torso.


Clearly he is a mess. 10.06 in high school. He should probably switch to the 800.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby The Klingon » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:57 pm

This young man is good. I saw him compete this past weekend at the Texas Relays. I just hope that this is not a case where a high school kid gets too good too soon.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby mal » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:18 am

Totally agree.

This kid is only lacking experience. When he gets it - and hopefully he keeps his head on - then he will be a force. A major force.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:47 pm

BCBaroo wrote:Clearly he is a mess. 10.06 in high school. He should probably switch to the 800.

Yeah, because, like, y'know, he certainly has NOTHING left to improve upon . . . :roll:
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:48 pm

He does not have to lean in any of his high school races so he has little experience with that 'fine point' of sprinting.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:52 am

Is he competing this weekend?
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:26 pm

Dave wrote:Is he competing this weekend?

He attends a 4A school, which begins its post-season next week.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:22 pm

Marlow wrote:
Dave wrote:Is he competing this weekend?

He attends a 4A school, which begins its post-season next week.


How many meets before state in Florida?
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:39 pm

Dave wrote:
Marlow wrote:
Dave wrote:Is he competing this weekend?

He attends a 4A school, which begins its post-season next week.

How many meets before state in Florida?

Top 4 in at the District meet go to Region.
Top 4 in Region go to State.
There are 4 classes of 16 districts (4 regions). About 10 teams in a district.

Apropos of nuttin - My (2A) District meet was yesterday - great fun. Taking 17 kids (8 in relays) to Region; expect to take 3 boys (3 event entries) and 5 girls (8 event entries) to the State meet.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:20 pm

Marlow wrote:
Dave wrote:
Marlow wrote:
Dave wrote:Is he competing this weekend?

He attends a 4A school, which begins its post-season next week.

How many meets before state in Florida?

Top 4 in at the District meet go to Region.
Top 4 in Region go to State.
There are 4 classes of 16 districts (4 regions). About 10 teams in a district.

Apropos of nuttin - My (2A) District meet was yesterday - great fun. Taking 17 kids (8 in relays) to Region; expect to take 3 boys (3 event entries) and 5 girls (8 event entries) to the State meet.


Good work Coach!
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:11 am

Dave wrote:Good work Coach!

Yes, as I frequently point out to them, it's all ME; they have the easy part of just going out there and doing what I told them (which is . . . jump higher and farther and run more quickly than their opponents). :wink:
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby RQ » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:16 pm

Event 14 Boys 100 Meter Dash Varsity ============================================================================ Name Year School Finals Wind Points ============================================================================ Finals 1 332 Bracy, Marvin 12 Boone HS 10.25 1.2 10
2 425 James, Antonio 10 Buchholz HS 10.56 1.2 8
3 331 Lilly, Synjohn 12 Apopka HS 10.60 1.2 6
4 334 Fair, Kareem 11 Wekiva HS 10.78 1.2 5
5 333 Armstrong, John 11 Olympia HS 10.92 1.2 4
6 428 Diamond, Heibert 12 Sandalwood H 10.99 1.2 3
7 427 Brown, Shiquel 11 First Coast 11.00 1.2 2
8 149 Knott, Derek 12 Colonial HS 11.05 1.2 1

Bracy was quoted as saying he slipped out of the blocks. State at jacksonville on may 5 at site of ncaa east regional.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby kellits2gnv » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:21 am

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/h ... 4067.story

story (and video) of his 10.25 ...also reveals hes been hampered by a hamstring injury.
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Re: Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:15 pm

RQ wrote:Event 14 Boys 100 Meter Dash Varsity ============================================================================ Name Year School Finals Wind Points ============================================================================ Finals 1 332 Bracy, Marvin 12 Boone HS 10.25 1.2 10
2 425 James, Antonio 10 Buchholz HS 10.56 1.2 8
3 331 Lilly, Synjohn 12 Apopka HS 10.60 1.2 6
4 334 Fair, Kareem 11 Wekiva HS 10.78 1.2 5
5 333 Armstrong, John 11 Olympia HS 10.92 1.2 4
6 428 Diamond, Heibert 12 Sandalwood H 10.99 1.2 3
7 427 Brown, Shiquel 11 First Coast 11.00 1.2 2
8 149 Knott, Derek 12 Colonial HS 11.05 1.2 1

Bracy was quoted as saying he slipped out of the blocks. State at jacksonville on may 5 at site of ncaa east regional.


From the video, it wasn't a great start and he was running into the wind. I am not sure I still see 9.9x this summer but a legal 10.0 won't surprise me.
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