British masters may ban sprinter for not apologizing

[TrackCEO]

Heard of an athlete banned for life for testing positive?

Here's a case of an M65 sprinter who may be banned for life for being negative (while seeking justice in redress of grievances):

http://masterstrack.com/blog/001202.html

K E N

[dr ngo]

I read (rapidly) the whole account, down to the very final, single-page single-word PDF documenting Treacher's final rebuttal.

For 10 bonus points (hell, let's make it 100) - what famous historical interjection does this reply echo?

[TrackCEO]

http://www.army.mil/Soldiers/dec2000/fe ... ulge1.html

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[mal]

For some reason, officialdom has always believed it is all about them.

[lonewolf]

I was stationed in Frankfort/Main, Germany with the Northern Area Command Engineer Office which planned and supervised post-WWII reconstruction in Western Germany.
I had the priviledge of handing to General McAuliffe the chrome plated shovel with which he turned the first ceremonial shovel of dirt commencing construction of Rhine/Main airport.
Lt Lonewolf and driver had been dispatched earlier in the day to loosen the sod in front of the dignitary stands.
McAuliffe's famous "Nuts" reply to surrender demand was still fresh in everyone's mind. The common knowlege, or at least concensus, was that his reply was much more pithy than "nuts"

[TrackCEO]

Anthony Treacher's "Nuts!" (and other comments) have netted him a one-year competition ban by the British Masters Athletic Federation.

My report (which includes a copy of his suspension letter):
http://masterstrack.com/blog/001212.html

K E N

[tafnut]

Anthony Treacher's "Nuts!" (and other comments) have netted him a one-year competition ban by the British Masters Athletic Federation.

Hadn't he already given himself a life-time ban?

Mountain, molehill. Standing on principle, in this case, gave him no better vantage point than sitting on the bench. I can't get worked up about this. Common civility took it in the chin; that's about it.

[indigo]

For some reason, officialdom has always believed it is all about them.

Bad behavior is inappropriate.

I will always have a bad taste in my mouth watching Larry Doubley berate an official @ a meet @ San Diego State '80 or '81. Doubley was 6'8" chasing down a starter who was maybe 5'9". Doubley was an individual who needed to be banned for LIFE. Equally amazing USC did not discipline him.

[Anthony Treacher]

It is history now. But this thread unfortunately still gives the impression that I said “Nuts” to an innocent meet official. Not so. I am not like that.

It was instead the BMAF Team Manager who broke the Call Room Rules and verbally abused me on the track. I later filed a formal complaint against him. His BMAF Chairman issued me an ultimatum to shut me up once and for all. I replied “Nuts” to that. This puts the record right.

[mal]

For some reason, officialdom has always believed it is all about them.

Bad behavior is inappropriate.

I will always have a bad taste in my mouth watching Larry Doubley berate an official @ a meet @ San Diego State '80 or '81. Doubley was 6'8" chasing down a starter who was maybe 5'9". Doubley was an individual who needed to be banned for LIFE. Equally amazing USC did not discipline him.

I say again, officialdom has always believed it is all about them.

[leoesharkey]

Sorry i am a bit lost, are you still banned? as a masters athlete, coach and sometime official this all seems unfortunate.

[leoesharkey]

I mean myself as a multi-tasking old fart, but this seems unfortunate, can it be resolved?

[Anthony Treacher]

There is no resolution. It remains to me to ensure that knowledge of this matter is extensive and, particularly in respect of my personal conduct, correct.

[Flumpy]

It is history now. But this thread unfortunately still gives the impression that I said “Nuts” to an innocent meet official. Not so. I am not like that.

It was history until you decided to bring it up again. You do realise that this thread hasn't been looked at for 5 years. Precisely no one was getting any kind of impression from it.

If you stopped Googling your own name you'd be none the wiser either.

Turn it in.

[Anthony Treacher]

Flumpy is British.

[Anthony Treacher]

Good idea. Weary of Googling myself, I Googled Flumpy instead.

Seems that Flumpy is an Athletics Groupie! Is that possible?

[Tuariki]

It is history now. But this thread unfortunately still gives the impression that I said “Nuts” to an innocent meet official. Not so. I am not like that.

It was history until you decided to bring it up again. You do realise that this thread hasn't been looked at for 5 years. Precisely no one was getting any kind of impression from it.

If you stopped Googling your own name you'd be none the wiser either.

Turn it in.

Flumpy is British.

Flumpy may well be British - and so what?? Flumpy is correct. I tried to read the links to find out what you are talking about. Only problem is those links are so old the files are no longer available on line. So people like me who were not around on this site 5 years ago have no idea what you are talking about.

and as flumpy says it is only an issue because you want to try and resurrect the issue again 5 years later

[Anthony Treacher]

Admin. This topic is now misplaced in the Current Affairs section. It should be in the Athletics History section or deleted. I am easy either way.

I have no need to "resurrect" my case here. I posted solely to correct an insulting misconception that I had been banned for misconduct towards an official on the track. I have done that.

Five years have passed? So what? In the eyes of authoritarians it is always wrong to protest against authority. The personal attacks on me for protesting and filing a complaint were the same in 2006.

Funny that nobody comments on what started all this - the misconduct of the BMAF Team Manager and the BMAF cover-up. I could now write a thesis on "The psychology of complaining about a Sports Body." And yes, it would have chapters on "Avoid the issue," "Shoot the Messenger," "Official Lies," "Small Men and Prestige," "The Cowardice of the Collective," "Moral Turpitude," "Condescending Indifference," "Internet Bullying" - have I missed something? I certainly have not missed some of you.

TrackCEO's dead-end Masterstrack url on this thread up to a few days ago gave an objective picture of the actions of the BMAF Team Manager and BMAF and the events leading up to my ban. It was the gospel truth. It did not disappear years ago because it was history. I accessed it from this thread just before I posted. So our crusader for Freedom of Expression TrackCEO must have deliberately removed it only a day or so ago. But no problem. If you are a well-intentioned friend you can always PM or e-mail me for the basics and an update. I am honest and I tell the truth. Which cannot be said of BMAF.

Or lacking all the facts - the quick fix. Anthony Treacher complained to BMAF about BMAF Team Manager's rules infringements and verbal abuse on the track at the 2006 World Masters indoors, Linz. BMAF Chairman consequently banned Anthony Treacher without hearing or appeal in 2007 for bringing the sport into disrepute. Anthony Treacher (who having been banned should want to people to forget it) instead wants everything out in the open. BMAF forbids the British masters athletics community from discussing the matter. Go figure.

[Flumpy]

http://tinyurl.com/cqb9up9

[Anthony Treacher]

Flumpy is typical of this lot. We are now in the 2012 London Olympics Year of our Lord. And the British athletics community still believes that threats and ridicule will silence me.

[Anthony Treacher]

A TrackCEO url on this matter is on http://www.masterstrack.com/photos/news2007/treacher2.html. Subsequent links are broken but that url gives the truth as to who started the whole thing.

General Anthony McAuliffe (101st Airborne) and his famous "Nuts" response is on
http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=ML_mcauliffe_bkp.

Again, this all belongs to the Historical section. My purpose is served so I would be happy with that.